You must have been reading some turntable threads. For some reason it is impossible to play a record. Frankly it is impossible even to have a record to play. First it must be cleaned, a process that all by itself consumes more time and resources than exist anywhere, ever. But then even if you skip this step you still can’t play it. For that you need a turntable, for which you need a place to put the turntable, and there simply are no suitable places to put a turntable! Probably you will have to build a whole house- on concrete embedded in bedrock, possibly, or floating in orbit in outer space- and even then it must be in another room from you and the speakers.....
But then even if you skip all that there is still the problem of 175 different alignments and jigs, and probably the arm isn’t even compatible with the cartridge, or the table- or both!
Eventually after all that it will turn out the record you want to play is the wrong one. If it isn’t a crappy reissue then its a crappy remaster or an even crappier beat up old copy - that you can’t afford anyway because the worst records command the highest prices! And why would you want to play it anyway? That is only going to wear it out. All you will hear anyway is pivoted arm mistracking. Unless of course its a linear tracker in which case you hear the air compressor.
That’s what makes it all so much fun. Nothing better than doing the impossible!
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Respecting each other is PART of the Golden Rule.
It goes "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
Some folks come here kicking their own behind. WHY wouldn't I be a good fellow and help them out? You know the "Golden rule thing"
How about come here ask a question and listen to the response.
I see people post all the time "asking a question" and really start HATING the correct answers they get.. Down right snarky and PMS-ing.
THEN there is the "Prove it to me crowd". BS prove it to yourself.. LOL I paid my dues with dollars AND others good sense. The question at which point do I start listening and QUIT talking...
OP who cares? Do what you like to do and live by that "Golden Rule"
I've met one or two that got close.. Great plan, easy, but TOUGH to pull off..
Regards
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Offer a suggestion, dont try so hard to know everything, dont try so hard to be right, that is only an attempt to prove that someone is wrong, no glory, only Ego.
be nice……its nicer. |
OP right on, grace and peace with less ego. |
@kgveteran This is an interesting post/thread. I agree that respecting each other is important. There should be more camaraderie here than exists. However it is a 2 way street as @oldhvymec has pointed out. And maybe people share in the wrong rooms too. IE, I go through the "recent" threads as listed above. It takes me to ALL the rooms/boards. So I end up in HT without knowing and answer a question from my 2 channel perspective. We're men and we can't say we were wrong. And apologizing is a sign of weakness (according to Gibbs. So we have disagreements which aren't settled quickly
Offer a suggestion, don't try so hard to know everything, don't try so hard to be right,
Ever think that maybe they might believe that you will learn why from the comment they made. Some people aren't real good at written conversation. I think much faster than I type and so maybe a little understanding of the potential causes is in order for you. BTW I'm not to big to apologize and I certainly don't care if anyone sees it. I know who I am. don't try so hard to know everything, don't try so hard to be right,
On to this tidbit I wish more people would try harder to get things right. Just look around you!. Just as Roger Waters has suggested, we have "Amused (Ourselves) To Death" to the point of near self destruction because we have listened to Your advice and NOT CARED about right or wrong and how much of either were done. What you are seeing now is the natural outgrowth of what you have prescribed. Is this what you expected? NO!! Then look around. Best to you. You are a fair minded person. We agree on some things. But not caring about being right is not one of them |
i am music delivery system agnostic. even media agnostic. only positive passion. i don't feel negative passion about anything regarding music.
by that i mean i like/love it all. i embrace 2 channel music of every format as it fits my circumstance, and multi-channel music and movies too.
if i was not fortunate enough to have separate 2-channel and Home Theater systems i would gladly combine them.
fun.....enjoyable home listening and watching.....is where you find it.
the only thing i am negative about is being negative. what a waste of bandwidth. some just have a minus default setting. |
thinking the is but one answer to being “ right “ with the illusion we seek to create with stereo or HT is the problem…..R. Waters, excepted of course…. |
Mike - nice to see your good attitude here, i am sorry i missed the gig you had recently……will pm, hopefully a rain check…
Your theory about Agon is also relevant viewed thru the lens of emotional intelligence, or deficit…as it may be….
best to you.
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One more positive thing about this place is i have bought used gear by caring owners since i joined up many years ago. This community cares a great deal about its equipment and caring for it, and relaying its condition accurately.
As always there are exceptions but i think they are few.
Thanx for encouraging the acknowledgement of “kindness is a better way.”
And Hometheater is fun, it has its challenges and takes years to learn all the ins and outs :0) there is no “right” way, if there is a right way, and that means i now have licence to be mean spirited, then its the wrong way……..
peace
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The fun hasn't left for me. I started out focusing on home theater with music a secondary consideration. That has flip-flopped over the years. Due to space and budget limitations I do both with one system (although I have a total of 4 modest systems) and enjoy it immensely. Take what you need and leave the rest. |
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Mike - nice to see your good attitude here, i am sorry i missed the gig you had recently……will pm, hopefully a rain check…
Tom, sorry you could not make it last time. you would be welcome any time. i hope it's soon. cheers, Mike |
There are way more lurkers here than posters.It gets tiring when someone has a simple question that results in an totally unrelated argument and no helpful information.
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“You must have been reading some turntable threads. For some reason it is impossible to play a record. Frankly it is impossible even to have a record to play. First it must be cleaned, a process that all by itself consumes more time and resources than exist anywhere, ever. But then even if you skip this step you still can’t play it. For that you need a turntable, for which you need a place to put the turntable, and there simply are no suitable places to put a turntable! Probably you will have to build a whole house- on concrete embedded in bedrock, possibly, or floating in orbit in outer space- and even then it must be in another room from you and the speakers.....
But then even if you skip all that there is still the problem of 175 different alignments and jigs, and probably the arm isn’t even compatible with the cartridge, or the table- or both!
Eventually after all that it will turn out the record you want to play is the wrong one. If it isn’t a crappy reissue then its a crappy remaster or an even crappier beat up old copy - that you can’t afford anyway because the worst records command the highest prices! And why would you want to play it anyway? That is only going to wear it out. All you will hear anyway is pivoted arm mistracking. Unless of course its a linear tracker in which case you hear the air compressor.
That’s what makes it all so much fun. Nothing better than doing the impossible!”
millercarbon, I hate to be the one to point out, OP is likely referring to your contentious posts on the subject of home theater and digital. And your post here is no exception. Your typical word salad, time and again reflecting your biased views on how much fun spinning a record can be despite of its glaring tedious rituals. Once again, you have polluted another thread with your usual gibberish instead of understanding and respecting OP’s point of view for the entertainment value derived from movies and music alike.
Unlike your kind, many here embraced 2-ch music of every format instead of waging wars on analog superiority over digital and everything else. |
Oh what a wretched world when the sculptor scorns with disdain the flat simplicity of Ansel Adams….
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Music and Movies are fun, they remind us we are human and we love entertainment. Im not sure where this idea got derailed and became so serious and jaded. I hear the points of view in their insulting manner, in their very narrow points of view and i shake my head. There seems to be such a desire to be “right” instead of sharing our audio knowledge in a caring way. This is pure condescension. You are talking down to people while holding yourself above them. Other points of view are "insulting" and "very narrow" not yours? Is this what you call sharing your knowledge "in a caring way"? Couldn’t just get a chuckle out of an obviously tongue in cheek post. Had to turn it into a hate fest. I don’t hate anyone- just don’t care for posers trying to pass themselves off as better than everyone else. |
+1 constructive, non-confrontational, respectful comments only. |
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And share info in a kind way :0) |
Thank you so much for the good presence of mind. Yes
we are human and we love entertainment
and only we can express our-self the best way in this planet.
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