I owned the predecessor to the RT2000P - the RT20p. When I was in the market to replace these (handed them down to my son)I looked at the LSi25 but they just did not ignited any inner soul for me.I ended up with some B&W N804. Still have them.
Polk Audio RT2000p or LSi 25's--- WHO CARES ???
It's absolutely amazing how my question previously asked could garner approximately 100 hits and each one of those hits were from signed up members who couldn't care less about helping me with my query.
If the moderators do publish this then they realize that there are a handful of their paid membership that do nothing but control this website to their liking. I will be unsubscribing if this is not published and if the members do get to see my opinion I'm sure their are many of us who feel the same way.
If the moderators do publish this then they realize that there are a handful of their paid membership that do nothing but control this website to their liking. I will be unsubscribing if this is not published and if the members do get to see my opinion I'm sure their are many of us who feel the same way.
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"The odd thing about the forum is i have posted topics and they have received responses although i cannot find the topics. Someone is seeing the threads. I really wish they would go to. A open forum so there would be speed, function and transparency. " Agreed. It's very frustrating because obviously most of us would prefer to follow up on a post as opposed to start a new one on the same subject. I had a brief conversation with a member about a Schiit headphone amp that I own and his Schiit preamp and its gone. |
"I figure nobody has an answer or everyone hates me so in either case, I just cry myself to sleep." Oh cool - IÂ’m not the only one! Four posts...all by me! DonÂ’t anyone ever talk to me about humiliation: http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?gmusi&1287098660&openfrom&2&4#2 |
Yes, the date and number of posts problem has been around for awhile. It's confusing because it makes me think everyone gave up. This has been going on for a couple of months. The only fishiness going on with this thread is that it's tiring. Any time one of my threads has not been replied to, I figure nobody has an answer or everyone hates me so in either case, I just cry myself to sleep. |
There's something fishy about this thread. The Audiogon system has said that there has been 22 replies for over a week, but there are over 60 today and there has been over 22 for over a week. This thread, and the other two related polk ones, have been at the top of the speaker forum for a few weeks even though one of the other related threads has not had any posts for 9 days. There are other threads that have had more recent posts, but they can not seem to push the polk threads down. |
"Zd542 - you are not wrong...to have special access to Agon, you must pay the super subscriber fee and submit proof of ownership of at least four items from Stereofool's Class "A" gear :)" Are you kidding? You really have to own 4 pieces from A and prove it? Thats nuts. It wasn't a requirement when I was a member. I like to think that the companies that made my gear are sucessful not because of Stereophiles ratings, but in spite of them. Wolf_garcia, Hi. |
Zd542 - you are not wrong...to have special access to Agon, you must pay the super subscriber fee and submit proof of ownership of at least four items from Stereofool's Class "A" gear :) Crazy how this thread went sideways very fast and, judging by the number of responses, quickly compelling at the same time. I was drawn to this thread, like rubber necker in traffic. Well, back to the music, dreaming about gear I cannot afford, and relaxing after a long day. Regards 3WayXOver |
3wayxover, "A person posted a question regarding speakers. He feels ignored and snubbed and voices his opinion. Soon, his voice is noticed and other lash back. The person asking the question is miguided in many ways and should seek help elsewhere. Agon is aimed at "high end." While some others try to calm down the situation. It started with a person asking for help with is speakers in an audio site. We have been reduced to this." I understand what you are saying, but I'm not sure if I agree. The question about the 2 Polks, I believe, is valid and belongs on this site. My personal feeling about high end is that its not so much about the price of equipment, as it is about trying to get the best possible sound from that equipment; at all price levels. Where the OP goes wrong is that he's getting angry on the assumption that the people on this site don't want to take the time to answer his questions, for some very negative reasons. Its possible that no answer was given simply because no one on this site has had the experience of comparing the 2 speakers. What do you think he would say if we gave him some advice that didn't work out? Not only that, the whole thing about how Audiogon subscribers are somehow controlling the site is silly. I was a paid member a few years back. Unless something has changed, being a subscriber gives you access to certain things like equipment specs and average used prices. The OP makes it sound like being a subscriber gives you access to CIA intelligence Anyway, thats just how I see it. I could be wrong. |
Firstly (why say "firstly?"...not sure) this is NOT a forum representing free speech as it is controlled by the management, who are all adoreable and real smart (!)...secondly, ignorance is NOT bliss in most cases. I think life can be harder for idiots...thirdly, I'm way too elitist to give Polk speakers any attention (although I'm sure they make something that sounds fine), and I admit it because I want my fellow posters to know where I stand at all times so as not to post anything that upsets me. |
A person posted a question regarding speakers. He feels ignored and snubbed and voices his opinion. Soon, his voice is noticed and other lash back. The person asking the question is miguided in many ways and should seek help elsewhere. Agon is aimed at "high end." While some others try to calm down the situation. It started with a person asking for help with is speakers in an audio site. We have been reduced to this. |
Hmmm, Reading this thread for the first time. I have owned polks before and after owning higher-end speakers (thiel, B&W etc). Honesty the polks are not good. They have a noisy box that kills the sound stage and they lack dynamics. Dull is a word that comes to mind. I would get out and demo. Bring your polks along and do a head to head. It should be a real ear opener. I also agree that avsforum would be a better place for lower-end stuff. Audiogon... "The high-end community"... |
Jeez...it hasn't become a sad thread. To all those who need to console chip by stating' I care', it isn't necessary. We all care about chip getting his info. This site is about audio, not member 'FEELINGS'. Anybody complaining about members being mean to them have no interest in the content, it's all about context. Information becomes secondary to delivery. If anything is sad, it's the eggshells we have to walk on to help some folks. |
I care. Most forums are nothing but opinions. You know what is said about opinions- everyone has one, just like that exit hole on your body. That being said, I still listen to a pair of Polk Audio RTA-12s I bought brand new in 1980. They were made in the USA, they sound great, and there's nothing on this website that says its only for audio equipment that costs a certain dollar amount or above. All the equipment I've bought was based on listening experience. The same for my music. I only buy vinyl/iTunes music that I listen to. I don't collect gear or vinyl- I listen to it. That's the only basis that determines where I spend my money. I've also got a Crown PL3 amp, 2 other Marantz amps and a Denon Receiver for the home theatre/gamer system. My son is a musician, and my favorite format is live music. I've never heard a system which reproduces live music as life-like as actually being there, because music is art and with art you hear something different every time you listen to it. Sure, some mega-dollar systems come close, but then all you're really doing is getting into the reproduction gear and not the music itself. These are my opinions, I'm a veteran and we still live in a free country that I served for the right of free speech, among others. |
You came here for an argument. You can whine all you want about cyber-bullying Chip, but your original post on this thread made it very clear that you wanted attention, regardless of direction. Like a two year old who throws themselves on the floor in a department store having a temper tantrum. It seems that you have received the attention that you so badly desired. So quit with the whining and bemoaning all the stones being hurled at you, for this is the attention that your masochistic mind so badly wanted. Enjoy it, reveal in it. |
Thank you Adam but people instinctively know when they are being cyber bullies and they feed off the hurt they think they are inflicting. No. You're right it is not black and white and I too need constructive criticism. It not in the way of sarcastic hurtful remarks or sexist ignorance. I am signing off on this thread as there was only a couple of Real people who cared. To them I tip my hat and wish well. To the sarcastic haters I hope they too see the light. I am also sure that after having said this there will still be sarcastic comments made. And on and on The way of the world. Peace |
I do not want to get involved with all the childish and foolish behavior bring exhibited on this thread ... But, I would like to mention that on of my favorite systems from way back during "the good old days" of audio was in my brother-in-law's apartment....... a magnificent sounding pair of Polk Monitor 7 speakers driven by a Tandberg receiver and a Garrard turntable. Ahhhhh ... beautiful music ! |
I suggest you go to the Polk website and join. You could then ask the question on the Polk Forum and possibly talk to some individuals that have heard those speakers or own them. It's very possible that no one that answers questions on this Audiogon Forum has seen or heard the Polk speakers you ask about. |
Hey chip, I'm curious. You freely use the term 'cyber bully'. Do you equate anyone who isn't 100% supportive of whatever you propose as a 'cyber bully'? If anyone questions your motives or asks legitimate questions, does that qualify as a 'cyber bully'? You seem to continue to look at this thread (and maybe the world in general, I don't know) as very black and white. Why, and how does this perception help you in your quest? |
Asking about Polk's here is like going on a Ferrari site and asking about the performance of a Chevy Cobalt. Most don't shop for their audio gear at Best Buy, so knowledge of Polk's is, at best, marginal. You come off as a real whiner - Boo Hoo, nobody wants to talk about my Polks. Looks like you've trolled the site enough, time to move on, nothing to see here. |
Rok2id provided insightful experience with limited information from you. This limited information is what I understand M_snow might refer. You asked for opinions about speakers which I can almost guarantee nobody uses with the same equipment, nor in the same type room, nor with the same music/movies. If you follow anyone's recommendation based on complete informational darkness, I'd be willing to bet you'll be back here screaming about membership conspiracy giving you misinformation because they didn't meet your expectations. For the most part, this is a very helpful group, we also like to have a little fun. For some of us becoming part of a misguided argument (and, yes, I should've been banned for aspects of my participation in various threads) is entertaining. As some have said, there are many other threads with different membership having different audio/video priorities and experiences. I believe you'll ultimately get your answers, you just may have to look elsewhere to get it. |
"2012chipmunk57 Ya know it's like people start to warm up and as soon as they do they want to be cold again. I don't get it. " You need to bear in mind there is a lag time beween writing a post and when it is posted. I also am not sure all posts get posted in their exact time of submission order. If you look at the forums page there is a whole set of posts not responded to for the last 30 days. I have one or two in there. Sometimes, even though it appears that your question should get answered, there may not be anyone with the specific knowledge or experience that can help you, and you get no response. People that use this site are very helpful, and have provided me with suggestions that allowed me to significantly improve my system. Best of luck with your system |
It is sad to see this thread. Chipmunks, you are asking about a set of speakers that most on this site have probably not listened to, and those that stopped by your original post may have been looking for information to learn for themselves. I have looked on a lot of postings for just that reason without responding. I have owned Polk speakers but have no personal knowledge about the models you are inquiring about. There is a forum on the Polk Audio Site that would have a much higher probability to provide the insight you are seeking and I highly recommend you visit there. To criticize the members here because they were either unable or unwilling to respond to your initial posting is juvenile and very shortsighted. Why would would you want a reply if they did not actually have the information to help you. |
