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Perfect Path Tecnologies ‘The Gate’
Having been a music lover and audio enthusiast for more decades than I care to admit to I’ve had the privilege of owning some tremendous components over those years and thought I had attained a level of musical enjoyment that would be difficult to improve upon without spending more money than I could afford. Then along came The Gate to turn my audio conceptions on end.
While I was quite skeptical of all of the positive proclamations regarding the Perfect Path mats, cards and contact enhancer ( how could they possibly bring about such sonic improvements?) I took the plunge and purchased a nano bundle to see what the hubbub was all about. Much to my surprise they not only brought about improvements to my systems’ ability to recreate a more musical sound but did so in spades.
When Tim of Perfect Path Technologies asked if I wanted to try his new product, The Gate, I jumped at the chance thinking it would be a nice addition to what the other products provided. I wasn’t prepared for the quantum leap The Gate brought to my music listening pleasure. As much as the other products brought about a much lower noise floor, greater detail and delicacy, improved dynamics, richer tone and more realism The Gate does so in magnitudes difficult to describe. The best way I can describe its affect is unreal purity leading the most realistic musical sound I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing.....outside of a live performance obviously. It has me listening to all of my CD’s as if for the first time again.
I have no idea how The Gate actually works or what it does I just know it’s the most dramatic tweak to my system I’ve ever experienced and I wouldn’t think of being without it. As to how it’s implemented, it’s installed in the electrical panel with one lead connected to the common buss and the other to a breaker ( preferably 220). Hope I got the terminology correct.....I’m far from being an electrician!
At $4,999.00 it’s not cheap but worth every penny to me as I’ve spent more on components with less sonic improvement.
Lastly, I realize some will scoff at something they can’t understand and I get not understanding it as I don’t, but I would hope people could keep their skepticism healthy and civil. I am not here to promote or sell, nor do I have any affiliation with PPT. I am only sharing something that I’ve found to be transforming in my system. Sorry for the lengthy introduction.
While I was quite skeptical of all of the positive proclamations regarding the Perfect Path mats, cards and contact enhancer ( how could they possibly bring about such sonic improvements?) I took the plunge and purchased a nano bundle to see what the hubbub was all about. Much to my surprise they not only brought about improvements to my systems’ ability to recreate a more musical sound but did so in spades.
When Tim of Perfect Path Technologies asked if I wanted to try his new product, The Gate, I jumped at the chance thinking it would be a nice addition to what the other products provided. I wasn’t prepared for the quantum leap The Gate brought to my music listening pleasure. As much as the other products brought about a much lower noise floor, greater detail and delicacy, improved dynamics, richer tone and more realism The Gate does so in magnitudes difficult to describe. The best way I can describe its affect is unreal purity leading the most realistic musical sound I’ve had the pleasure of experiencing.....outside of a live performance obviously. It has me listening to all of my CD’s as if for the first time again.
I have no idea how The Gate actually works or what it does I just know it’s the most dramatic tweak to my system I’ve ever experienced and I wouldn’t think of being without it. As to how it’s implemented, it’s installed in the electrical panel with one lead connected to the common buss and the other to a breaker ( preferably 220). Hope I got the terminology correct.....I’m far from being an electrician!
At $4,999.00 it’s not cheap but worth every penny to me as I’ve spent more on components with less sonic improvement.
Lastly, I realize some will scoff at something they can’t understand and I get not understanding it as I don’t, but I would hope people could keep their skepticism healthy and civil. I am not here to promote or sell, nor do I have any affiliation with PPT. I am only sharing something that I’ve found to be transforming in my system. Sorry for the lengthy introduction.
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uberwaltz ... I understand your point completely. I've heard from other members via PMs that some of their tweaks degrade their system's sound after The Gate is installed. Some of the after-market plug-in devices seem to be the worst in this regard. Once the devices are removed, then The Gate can do its thing and the system becomes better overall than before. Tim told me the same thing relating to some of his customers. Frank |
Frank. I do not disagree on the Gate working well and in conjunction with other PPT products at all. I have mats, cards and tc paste as well. It was just the additional non PPT power conditioning that appeared to have a slight smearing of details compared to just the Gate. I have no idea just how it works and do not care. And if any smarmy pants think it is an overpriced piece I have just one comment. Go and design your own and bring it to market AND offer a 90 day return policy . Less talk and more walk...... |
I’ve made my opinions on the Gate perfectly clear here many times. The other PPT products seem to work in coordination with The Gate to really supercharge the system. Once the SR Orange fuses were broken in, I pasted them with PPT’s Total Contact. A little degradation initially as usual, but I’m five days into it now, and all I can say is ... WOW ...!!! The TC paste has to dry in order for it to perform at it’s best. Frank |
@uberwaltz, No apologies needed bud! I understand your point of view on The Gate. IMO, good power correction / conditioning is not inexpensive. Many of us have found SOTA power solutions from the likes of SR, Shunyata, Audience and Nordost. Since I have not tried PPT products yet, I am unable comment on how they compare with any of the aforementioned A-List manufacturers. |
Lalitk. My apologies indeed. After reading again, yes I can see how you intended it to come across. GK can confuse the issue on any thread. Hard to get this thread back on track which is The Gate. All I can say is you would have to pry mine from my cold dead fingers before I gave it up from my system. I have NO other power conditioning of any kind bar the Gate now. And the noise floor is LOW...... Nothing turning on like the ac or fridge makes the slightest blip in the music. And it certainly used to until I purchased an Equicore 1800 which fixed those issues. However once I installed the Gate I felt the Equicore was now having a slight negative impact so I removed it and have flown with just the Gate ever since. |
@uberwaltz, Take it easy, I certainly did not have any intentions to cause more pain to mrs_ppt. Bless her heart, we know Tim is always going to be ‘there’ with her in spirits. My post was directed towards mindless posts by geoffkait. The man simply got too much time on his hands and does not know when to quit. |
lhasaguy ... Thanks for posting this:
Myers Briggs came after the study I was introduced to. Same basic principles though. Attaining this knowledge is important for everyone, but for a person in sales, it is indispensable. When in the people business, it is imperative to be able to read people. That would include the study of personality types, body language, and subliminal buying signs. Selling is an art. Those who fail at it, never realize why. Frank |
Go ahead, Uber, talk about the Gate. Nobody’s stopping youWhat more needs to be said GK? I fail to see what interest it is to yourself as by your own admittance you are "off the grid". But regardless I am pretty sure those of us who own one have already said their piece here and elsewhere already. My comment was more aimed at the general populance who may find it refreshing to actually discuss the subject matter rather than mindless bickering. Maybe they should rename the misc audio section to something more appropriate for the present climate on majority of threads that appear in it. |
Just a mild point about personality typing. Look up Myers Briggs. It is a well accepted typology that evaluates 4 dimensions on a continuum suggesting a characteristic based on the strength of placement on each. It has been in use in both business and academia for many years. I have used it in both with success. |
*Ahem*... Funny that this was brought up. I was just talking via phone with another A'goner discussing the PPT products when The Gate came up. He just needs The Gate to complete his PPT tweaks. All I can say is ... The Gate is still the best thing I've ever added to my system. But then, you guys already knew that, right?? :-) Frank |
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I may not agree with everything you say mahgister, but I like what you bring to the table!! mahgister738 posts11-06-2019 2:12pmYour interesting observations are typification of 4 basic attitudes toward a new situation or a possible set of events: |
In the first paragraph, I was careful to say this:
For example, the very best salespeople have a very high propensity to be, as I described, " ... personality is outgoing, humorous, demonstrative and friendly." However, behind that strength is a high degree of what I described my brother to be ... " He’s very much into control." This gives the salesperson a persuasive personality, with the ability to be a very good closer. Frank |
Your interesting observations are typification of 4 basic attitudes toward a new situation or a possible set of events: The individual inquisitive sceptic attitude toward a new unknown possibility, The more socialistic open enthusiastic mind, The more impersonal and straight expert restricted attitude, coming from past learnings, And finally the rebel and disruptive attitude in which we must distinguish the good faith rebel from the bad faith disruptive spirit... All this is in us to some extent... I apologize for the simplification of these very informative observations... Thanks... |
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ieales ... "Frank, that's a load of bollocks. Talk about stereotyping. Sheesh! How about two types: Gullible and Not?"Okay, now there's a blanket statement if I've ever seen one. Ieales ... Please understand that I am not attacking you here. This is just a question. What information do you possess that refutes what I said about personality types? I've made a real study of this subject over the years, so I would certainly be open to any additional information you may have. Thanks ... Frank |
I've followed this thread since it started. I don't remember seeing Tim's passing mentioned in it before Frank's comment today? In fact it had gone very quiet recently but just got re-invigorated within the last couple of days. I was unaware of Franks' thread on Tim's passing until the link posted above. So for me this was very sad and shocking news. |
Frank posted very recently that Tim has passed away.Come again? Numerous posts to that effect in this very thread AND...... https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/rest-in-peace-tim-mrock |
Just out of curiosity, the product you were selling ... was it a technical product, and the businesses you were selling to ... were they of a technical nature? Not attacking or ridiculing you ... I'm genuinely interested. Frank |
Thanks, guys. I put a lot of effort in that last post. It really is a synopsis of what I learned over time about personality types ... and that knowledge gave me a real edge over the competition. They used to tell me that I was "lucky," or that they wished they were as "lucky" as I was. What they didn't understand was that I had discovered a major key ... and that was to outwork them and out-learn them. Frank |
You will perhaps notice Frank, That until you attacked me, I never questioned anything on the audio side, I merely pointed out that their was a disconnect between the claims for the product, how products that make such claims work, and the details on the product. In fact, I even disagreed with a safety concern that was raised given how it is installed. Hate to break it to you Frank, but I spent many years in business to business sales .... did quite well actually, it was how I was able to finance my own company and I still spend a good amount of time selling. |
Okay, let me interject something here. Being in the sales business most of my life, it behooved me to study personality types. Personalities can be broken down into four distinct types, each with their biggest fear. Of course, there are mixed combinations, but each always has a strong bias that comes to the surface. My brother is a retired policeman. He was a good cop who enjoyed going to work each day to serve the public. He’s a doubter, suspicious and takes a long look at everything. He’s very much into control. His personality’s biggest fear? Being taken advantage of. The worst thing a salesman can do is to glad-hand this type. If you do, his immediate thought is ... "what is this guy trying to get out of me?" This person has to trust you before he likes you, unlike the other personality types who have to like you before they trust you. The best thing the salesperson can do with this type is to just let him lead the way. My "salesman’s" personality is outgoing, humorous, demonstrative and friendly. I used to smile so much my cheeks hurt. I was one of the top salespersons in my company and in the entire area for many years. My personality’s biggest fear? Fear of social disapproval. That’s why we strive to please people. It is also why we grow a thick skin. We eat rejection for breakfast, lunch and come back for more at dinner time. It is also why a good salesman doesn’t take "no" for an answer. We look at a "no" to mean ... "you haven’t told me enough yet." When you buy from us, you are saying ... "You know, in my book, you are alright." Needless to say, most people fail at sales because they just cannot take the rejection. Engineer’s fall into a different category. They are precise, they are thinkers, they are extremely analytical ... and they very seldom make mistakes. Why? because they measure fifty times to cut once.Their personality’s biggest fear? Fear of criticism. They can’t handle it ... in fact, I’ve met engineers who can’t even handle a suggestion, let alone criticism. During a sales presentation to this personality type, when the closing sequence ends, and the salesman asks for the order, the expected answer ALWAYS is ... "I have to think it over," or "I have to sleep on it." He’s telling the truth. He will NOT make snap decisions. The biggest mistake a salesman can make with this person is to pull out the hammer and try to beat him over the head with it. Just leave the contract with him and say ..."Here, read this over at your convenience tonight, and I’ll call you tomorrow for your decision." I swear, you can just see and feel the guy’s relief. When he’s called back the next day and the salesman asks if he’s made a decision, the usual answer is ... "Yes, I read the entire thing. I like your proposal and I have everything signed for you. Come on over and pick it up." No joke., So, this brings us up to the present time in this thread. I try a product that I really like, so I want to share the information with others. When they try, use and like the product, it makes me happy. :-) Then, along comes the engineer type, who hasn’t tested the product, hasn’t seen it in person, hasn’t felt it or smelled it, and in his logical mind, it has to be "snake oil," a "scam," or just "pure bunk." Then, me with the happy face, gets called a "shill," or a "con." Well, there’s that loss of that social approval thing hitting me right in the face. So, having the sales background burned into my subconscious mind, I try to defend my position. With that defense, the engineer feels that I’m criticizing his position ... and ’round and ’round we go. Therefore, my message to "atdavid" about learning the difference between attacking and reacting. It is nothing more than a clash between personalities. No more, and no less. Time to shake hands and move on ... Frank |