Perfect Path Tecnologies ‘The Gate’
Jay23 ... On that point, you would be wrong, Jay. You’re making ridiculous statements without knowing what you’re talking about. 1. I have hundreds of hours of master tape recordings. They are stunning. 2. You lied about your "friend" being unable to return his Gate. I know for a fact that not one PPT customer has attempted to return a Gate once purchased. 3. Had your "friend" not liked the Gate, there wouldn’t be a "past the trial period." The return policy still would have been honored. That’s just the way they do business at PPT. Plus, with the exception of "Total Contact" there’s a 90-day return policy on everything sold by PPT. Is your "friend’s" hearing and/or system so bad that he/she couldn’t discern what the Gate was doing within 90 days? Come on man, you are way too transparent. 4. Your assertion that the Gate "colored the sound" isn’t true either. The Gate doesn’t color sound. It purifies the AC throughout the entire house/office/recording studio, and allows one to hear what is actually on the recording. Perhaps you and your "friend" should reevaluate your recording/mastering skills. Honestly, if you’re going to post here, the least you can do is to tell the truth. Finally Jay ... why is it that we never see you and georgehifi in the same place at the same time? Frank |
Time to chill ... and here's something to chill with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y10TqeFBMU0&fbclid=IwAR1k6R9VWKvEuUvHXLZxtkgI15HfXTJwtoB3V7uBsF9woDTctgNUq4cmgbY |
@oregonpapa 1. I would bet you didn't master a single second on any of that material, nor were you there for the recordings. Nice try! 2. He was past the return period, so he didn't try to return it. He sold it and took his losses like a big boy. 3. He was away from home, too busy touring and recording to install it within the 90 days. Some people still have to work, and not be a blight on society. 4. You know that anything in the AC path can color the sound. Otherwise you would have to agree with Georgie that all fuses sound the same. Take off your salesman hat! The above and the other thread prove why "certain" people shouldn't come up with theories. |
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atdavid ... What was your intent in posting this comment? Frank |
Jay, I expect no electrician would, and certainly no electrician should sign and notarize such a letter as they would not be qualified to comment on the safety of such a "black box". Their expertise is the electrical code, which is not the same as having knowledge of applicable product safety standards. UL, and others, can do field inspection, typically at the MFR, for small run productions, based on acceptable documentation from the MFR and an inspection of the assembly of the product (not just exterior, but how made) to ensure compliance to typical standards of most manufactured electrical products. jay23183 posts11-03-2019 7:01pmI would warn all potential buyers that they should use a bonded, insured, and licensed electrician to install The Gate. Additionally, require a signed and notarized letter from the electrician that they find The Gate to be safe in their professional opinion. Good luck finding such an electrician! 😂 |
@atdavid Thank You for posting that! We have made it a priority to keep your equipment safe with our products, and we accomplish this by:The mention of a clamping voltage means The Gate most likely uses cheap MOVs. Not only is it a potential liability for your insurance, it is also a potential safety & fire hazard! https://youtube.com/watch?v=zmcD635NNPU https://youtube.com/watch?v=JujCqjLSQF8 |
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jay23, That would depend on how you install it and what other parts are inside the Gate. If you install it in your electrical panel, then the electrical panel should contain any "events". Fortunately the instructions communicated in this thread indicate to connect one end to a breaker, so if a MOV fails short, which they pretty much always do before going "poof", then the breaker will trip. The suggestion to connect it to a "220" breaker is a bit suspect mainly as it is not really a "220" breaker, it is a dual-phase breaker with a connecting rod between the handles for the two poles. Electrically this would not be any different from a single pole breaker, but double phase breakers are usually higher current. That would provide a lower resistance path, but those really long lead wires shown in the installations would negate the that benefit in the case of a surge event due to the increased resistance and increased inductance. Someone had a comment about whether it would take a 6KV/3KA hit ... $0.10 MOVs will take repeated 6KV/3KA hits. It is not a difficult task. However, unlike the Furman that was noted to take 1000s (?) of 6KV/3KA hits, the Furman is a 2 port device, i.e. input port and output port. The Furman can take 1000s of 6KV/3KA hits because it has an inductor before the secondary surge element that considerably softens the surge event that reaches that element ... and your equipment that follows. That is a series connected surge suppressor ... i.e. the Furman is in series between the line and your equipment. This would be considered a parallel surge protection. You don't want any inductance between the input wires and the surge element as that would prevent effective clamping. Of course, MOVs, even pretty big ones are cheap, so you can clamp quite a bit of energy for not a lot of money. What is really unusual, and not in a good way, is that it connects to only neutral and one of the hots, not both the hots. That means it is going to provide surge protection to one of the phases, and not the other or at least very limited and only through the long connection back to the mains transformer. As well, it claims to provide PFC functionality, and again, that is only to one of the two phases. It could leave the other phase less balanced.
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atdavid, you sound suspiciously like a certain member who recently vanished from the forum taking all his holier than thou, know it all statements with him. Robert something I believe. Quite a coincidence he disappears and you show up out of nowhere. I trust you shall be just as popular as he was.... |
And you are like many others in these forums that attack the person and not the substance of their posts. Don’t kid yourself that you are popular with everyone .... p.s. I took down one of my posts as it was a bit catty. thecarpathian691 posts11-04-2019 7:22pmatdavid, you sound suspiciously like a certain member who recently vanished from the forum taking all his holier than thou, know it all statements with him. |
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geoff, Is there another member on here that was making you look silly? Perhaps you can share his contact information. Sounds like my type of person ... You know what is weird, it is always the same 4 or 5 people that attack me. Not the content of my posts, but me. You know how bad it is ... one person here even contacted me privately and warned me about the pile-on. Strange huh? |
What is creepy is all the people attacking me personally to the point I am getting messages from others warning about the pile-on. I have never been warned about a "pile-on" on any forum of any topic ... ever. What is creepy is people not addressing the substance of my posts, but again attacking me. If you feel the need to attack me, but not address the topic of my posts, I think you should be asking yourself first, why? What are you afraid of? |
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I wouldn't put much stock into these two videos. In the first video, it would be easy to find a MOV that will easily take a 6KV/3KA hit. That is not very big. In the second video, all I can suggest is buying equipment at least of this type that has proper UL or other recognized safety lab testing. They will not do what is illustrated in that video (start on fire). Unless you have a faulty power conditioner, you will not see an extended voltage event past about 132V for any period of time either unless you are in a developing country. There are many fail-safes to prevent this. jay23187 posts11-04-2019 6:30pm@atdavid |
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atdavid: Narrator ... and here I thought you were an engineer? Nope. Wrong. He claims to be a theoretical physicist, developer of interstellar space craft and quantum drive, protege or pal of the late Nobel laureate Richard Feynman. But all we know for sure is he has a website where he sells flying saucers and teleportation tweaks based on morphic fields. http://machinadynamica.com Seriously. Not making this up. Click the link. Flying saucers. Teleportation tweaks. A quick web search will turn up a guy who claims to have met him at a show one time and that he is really only putting on a big show of being a nut job in order to poke fun at super-serious audiophiles. DYODD, make up your own mind. All I can say is, if its an act he makes Andy Kaufman look like an amateur. |
atdavid, others can read what I have not written??! How does that work? And why would I refute what you write? Is that what you feel I should be doing? It's not the gist of what you write that rubs people the wrong way, it's your attitude that shines ever so brightly through your writing. There is no way you are not the recently deleted roberttcan reincarnated. |
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I see. You've been a member here 5 whole days and your the expert on how this forum works. How presumptuous. And I 100% stand by my statement you quoted. Do you disagree with it given the comment I was responding to? Because it sure seems no one else does. Funny how you don’t mention the pretense behind it, only the cherry picking of it. Weak, weak, weak. |
atdavid. Uh, question- Frank Isn't fooling anyone by buying the Gate??! What in the heck does that even mean?! If you take a wee peek at the thread topic, you'll notice it is indeed about.........buying the Gate and user experience! Frank speaks from experience since he owns and actually has experience with it. Have you heard, have experience with, or own the Gate? No? Then what do speak from, you know, besides your....... |
atdavid... "Questionable?" There are no questions left to be answered. PPT's "The Gate" isn't a mere "accessory." That's simply laughable. "The Gate" is a device that is turning the audio world of those using it upside down. Read the threads. And as far as worth? Its all about bang for the buck. There has never been anything that I'm aware of to hit this hobby like it. Not at least in my 40+ years of listening experience. And as for anyone "picking on you" ... cry me a river. Life is an echo, you get back out of it what you put in, no more, no less. Here's something for you. I sincerely hope you find it helpful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0p1fjLPjYQ&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR0rnoO4nlE25MzjDJlxAk-y4P3NGGq9aefDC9ZrG55V72iuttYtLvDW8qQ Frank |
I read your posts here, and on Facebook. I see the anger and lashing out every time someone moves your cheese. You are very good at telling others how to live, but don’t follow your own rules. You are quick to tell others their hearing is bad or their system is not "resolving" meanwhile .... your speakers .... "Turning the world upside down?" ..... a couple posts by a few people is hardly turning the world upside down. That is quite some hyperbole in your statement. If you cared about the sound of your system you would return this, upgrade your speakers and invest in room treatment, not keep looking for magic beans. |
atdavid ... Did you watch the YouTube video I left for you? If so, did you absorb it? If not, watch it again.
Wrong. I don’t get angry, I just respond to personal attacks and to those who attempt to burn legitimate businesses down. Nope again. It is true, however, that I have recommended ear wash to a few individuals a number times ... mostly anti-fusers. Your reading comprehension is sorely in need of improvement. Here’s what I said: "The Gate" is a device that is turning the audio world of THOSE USING IT upside down. Thanks for the suggestions. And thanks for telling me how to live. I took care of room treatments long before I installed "The Gate." Years before, as a matter of fact. The speakers I use, just like PPT products, perform way beyond their price point. Have you ever heard Legacy Signature III’s tricked out to the Nth degree? If not, I guarantee you would be in for a shock. Out of production for many years, they are becoming quite a cult item at this point. Original price with the finish I have was $5000.00. Adjusted for inflation ... you do the math. How do the Legacy’s sound? Have you heard the Harbeth 40.2s? Imagine the Harbeths with all of that great tonal balance they are famous for, but with better highs and MUCH better bass. And at 93db efficiency, they can be driven easily, and quite beautifully by the way, with a modified Dynaco Stereo 70 if necessary. With the ARC REF-75se that is presently used in the system, the amp just coasts no matter how loud and/or dynamic the signal fed to them. Read the many reviews available on the Web. And speaking of beans, you are full of them, my friend. Frank |
