Proac D48R Read the Tone Audio review
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heinrichmilw the review doesn't reveal much about construction or materials but the fact that they succeeded the D40R's and were designed by Stuart Tyler speaks volumes.
The review does suggest that they are a high resolution design and disappear well. It also suggests that they were not necessarily designed for comfort.
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Hard to imagine not giving the new 10k Revel a listen.Kevin V is one great designer with a very large budget. A wonderful alternative is a used pair of Salon 2’s for way under 15k. This is where I’d look fwiw.
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new Revel model is the F228be |
Yes, the state of the art loudspeaker design still involves serious compromise.
I'll compromise on anything this side of a screechy treble to get a vivid midrange. Its the best way for me to forget that I'm listening to loudspeakers.
For some others the goal may be the imagery / disappearing act combination. Devore seem to be a modern take on the classic DC Tannoys from the past with their luxury bass. I happily lived with the original B&W Matrix 805's for over a dozen years for just this reason. But the compromises involved were huge. The 805's were three speakers ago. I now have DeVore O/93's and have never been happier. But I have not only kept my Matrix 805's but also had John of Van L Speakerworks in Chicago upgrade my internal wiring, crossover caps, and binding posts. I intend to use them again some day. |
@fsonicsmith Congratulations! Be they artistic or engineering approaches (ear/measurement) real advances in speaker design are slow. So slow in fact some say non-existent at the high end.
The best you can do is to find the compromises you can live with, fine tune, and then breathe a sigh of relief as you get off the dizzy upgrade roundabout.
I'm pretty sure the DeVore 0/93's will still be great speakers some 20 years down the line whatever upgrades may or may not appear between then and now. The same way the original Harbeth M40's are today.
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I'm pretty sure the DeVore 0/93's will still be great speakers some 20 years down the line whatever upgrades may or may not appear between then and now. The same way the original Harbeth M40's are today.
John DeVore loves electronica according to the journalists who have visited him and attended his "monkey parties". Listening to LCD Soundsystem's "Get Innocuous", the first track on the Sound of Silver album through the O/93's powered by my ARC Ref150 SE and Ref 6 with my AMR DP777 DAC and an Aurender N100H with Cardas Clear Beyond cabling is an amazing experience. The very first bass and drum line has you thinking that the bass is lightning fast and crisp and vivid and then suddenly a whole new wave of deeper bass kicks in that is startling to anyone not expecting it. My 86 year old dad and my 80 year old mom were over for Mothers Day and my dad wanted to hear the system-recognizing that most of my components including the DeVores were new. They were amazed despite having the hearing deficits that come with age. There is something very special about a well designed 10" paper woofer combined with just a soft dome tweeter. Obviously there is much more to the "special sauce" consisting of the cabinet design, two rearward facing ports located at the bottom of the enclosure, and the crossover design, not to mention that John DeVore has that SEAS woofer built to his specs. Also, I just had my carpeting in my dedicated listening room replaced with solid walnut hardwood. This made a huge difference in the SQ-bass has a solidity that it did not quite have before and the midrange is smoother. Highs seem unchanged. It took very little time to nail down speaker positioning whereas with carpet, it took a lot of tiny adjustments to get things optimized. |
I can see you are a high-hi-end listener. Me too, but I learned a lot when I was partners in Audio Tweakers over a decade ago. My then biz partner had a cost no object budget, which I got to hear regularly. He now owns Scaena Loudspeakers which combine art and sound to great results
Now, I have owned my share of exotic speakers to drive my 17 x 34 x 11 living/listening room, including building frames for rewired Accoustat 3 + 3 with 4 tweaked servo amps, Genesis Vs (as did my partner in the early days) but mine were HPs personal pair.
I much prefer dipoles, which are known to disappear, while throwing a hyge sound stage
If you have the room I suggest you investigate the new Magnepan 30.7s, but only those. If you would like to hear what a measly $2K buys you, I am selling my pair of Emerald Physics KCIIs, internally wired with WireWorld OCC. Only reason I am selling is I got a super sweet deal on a pair of EP 3.0s. See my ad and review in AA
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I pulled the trigger on the Quatro Wood CT after many hours of listening and comparing. I cant wait to get them delivered and setup. Thanks for all the great responses. |
Awesome and congrats. What helped you make that decision? Which wood or paint did you go with? Also, wondering which dealer? If you have questions feel free to ask. Glad that you went to audition to many speakers as that's the most important thing you can do.
New gear is always fun. Just installed three new pairs of Audioquest Hurricane power cords and even though they need breaking in, the Quatro's are crushing it like never before! |
Congrats!!! Awesome speakers.
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I bet you can get a Vandersteen 5 for your price.
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Awesome front end
the Ref110 is absolutely perfect for this speaker !!!!
i ran my Vandersteen 5a with a loaner Ref75se and it was hyper sweet midrange w proven Vandersteen powered bass
the rest of your system is all gear Vandersteen shows with.
Richard just listened to my Delos on a Basis into TREO CT and it passed w flying colors !!!!!
yowsa !!!!
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I'm so glad that you are enjoying that TT as much as I did. I loved that thing. For the price, I wasn't able to find anything, even used, that was close. |
I decided on the Quatro Wood CT after many a listening session. I really like 5A and 5A Carbon but I think for my 16’x16’ room, the ability to place the CT’s closer to the back wall was appealing. Finish is Mahogany Walnut.
I listened to Wilsons, B&W, Focal, Thiel, KEF and many others. The Vandys are near perfection to me. There are things I like about all the speakers I listened to but to me the Vandys have no strengths. They just disappear.
I was going to buy a set from Ultra Fidelis in Milwaukee. John and Bob there are simply great and I have spent lots of money in that place. That was the plan and then I saw a used set on Audiogon for a great price including XLR xovers.
I want to learn as much as possible so setting these up by myself will be a thrill to me. If I am not happy I’ll ask John at Ultra Fidelis to do a "master setup"
I have the RS meter and laser for measuring. I am building a spreadsheet and am laying out my room on cad... Overkill perhaps, however I don get the speakers until late next week so I have something to obsess about!
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Wow, awesome. So you are the lucky one who got them. There is another thead I'm on and they were all wondering if it was for real or not, the condition etc... Sounds like it was legit and that you are one lucky guy. I paid Rutan to drive to CT to set mine up, but I can't move anything with the MS, lol. Keep using this thread to keep us up on your set up. |
I concur with CTsooner.
Congrats, enjoy and let us know how you fare.
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Wow, Amazing. That’s really all I need to say about these speakers.
They were delivered yesterday in excellent condition. High pass filters batteries are dated 2022 and have QA Wind balanced connections; I am running AQ Niagara and Water, nice match.
In the week it took to ship the speakers I studied the setup manual and created another thread here asking for help. I followed all the advise and did my homework and had all of the proper tools. The setup took a few hours and all I can say is I am extremely happy. These Quatro CT’s blow away my B&W 803S by a wide margin and I loved those speakers. Time to re-listen to my Vinyl!
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Awesome to hear. Just glad you got a pair of speaker that you love. I feel the same way, but others like the B&W better. That's the fun of audio and boards. If you need advice on pairings of amps or sources in the future, ask away, lol. I've heard most everything with them since I got them. I really want Richards soon to be released mono blocks and a preamp for it. Would be amazing. |
