My Long List of Amplifiers and My Personal Review of Each!

If the video above doesn't represent transparency, Clarity, resolution then i don't know what else would... End of the road gentlemen. I am walking on thin ice. 

Whatever. 

Bye. 

Playing a recording without a reference point is meaningless.  If the new component X is the greatest, let it break in for whatever time is required.  Then record a song without X, and with X so we can hear the difference.  Even if youtube sound is mediocre,  the benefits of the Stromtanks or new X should still be obvious.

You plugged the new component into the wall, so perhaps it's an amp - a stereo amp?   Maybe not though, because monos would be the ultimate seemingly.  kren0006 we need you!

Dave

It's probably the Gryphon Apex amp

I don't want to doubt you kren0006.  However, I thought WC mentioned that he's been looking 2 years for this component?

Dave

Maybe.  I put about 3.5 seconds of thought into the guess : )

No worries.   Anyone want to guess "when" WC will reveal this component?

Dave

Only thing not listed in the description on the video is cabling.......

That is done on purpose. No need advertise for everyone out there. I advertise way too much as it is. Boulder, Gryphon, you Wilson, Magico. Etc. 

OMG, this sounds incredible!  

Thanks @psnyder149 

Boulder 3060? 

Dave

jays_audio_lab

Update the Cabling and Cords list as well.

Happy Listening!

Jay,

Don't worry it your microphone clips occasionally.  In my experience with recording, most of the time it isn't audible if the peak overshoots by 1-2 dB or so, which is only for a microsecond.  99+ % of the time, you can maximize the low level resolution by setting the recording level high enough.

It's really great that you showed the history of your journey Jay. Thanks so much for creating and uploading it!

I'm of the source first mindset because that's been my journey but since the very first video of the S7s in your lab, even before you revealed them, I heard the jump to a totally different and higher level of musicality, probably because you already had the foundation in place and the S7s are letting it all through. I agree your system is the best it's ever been!

I'm now revisiting and analyzing my "source first" thinking, for the 1st time in a few decades. Well, maybe the synergy has a lot to do with it.. I've only ever played your channel through my main rig btw and can instantly switch to the same tracks from my main source 

@straycat

Thank you. What you see on that video also happens to be the pieces that i have talked about on this thread. There were more pictures that were left behind that didn’t make it but i wanted to make sure that the majority of my pictures were on the video.

The reason why the pictures shuffled rapidly is because I wanted to display as many as possible within the 5 min song.

I figured people can pause the video to check out each pic if they want to.

Everything i do with these units can be heard. I even tried an aftermarket powercord to charge the battery and proceeded to listen to the Stromtank in battery mode and it sounded different.

I thought I was going nuts but nope. The battery itself can be charged with a different flavor if you use different powercords.

Checks watch, nope it is not 4:20.

No point in making a condescending, snarky comment about this. This on its own is just lunacy. Think about what was written. Think real hard. Then ask yourself, is this possible, or just another audiophile day dream.

Oh it’s possible...it’s possible... But then again...how would you know unless you live with this stuff...I’ve tried different powercords on battery operated preamps and they also changed the presentation on these preamps...i then confirmed my findings with some folks who owned the same preamps and we all arrived at the same conclusion...

What would i gain from making such statement? Do I sell powercords for a specific brand? Nope...there is no incentive for me. I’m only reporting what i hear.

That said, are you also one of those cable doubters? I mean we can’t measure cable performance on a test bench so we must be nuts by saying cables make a difference?

Would you believe me if I told you that if you were to wipe down all of your cables and electronics with a damp cloth that the system would sound better? You would be removing static by doing so... Yep, I’ve done this and it is true but then again, if i say this, i become the "crazy guy"...

Audio industry is something we don’t fully understand and this is why WE ALL will continue to keep feeding it millions of dollars. 

I am curious. Has anyone measured the power factor and THD of these inverter solutions under a variety of loading schemes. I have to expect the low cost ones I see linked on Amazon are not very good. Is the Stromtank better? "Trust me" is not a suitable answer.

Nobody has answer on here with regards to the stromtank because I'm almost 100% sure that most regulars of this thread don't own one. If they give an opinion, it's an unqualified one based on pure speculation. 

Oh it’s possible...it’s possible... But then again...how would you know unless you live with this stuff...I’ve tried different powercords on battery operated preamps and they also changed the presentation on these preamps...i then confirmed my findings with some folks who owned the same preamps and we all arrived at the same conclusion...

Nobody has answer on here with regards to the stromtank because I'm almost 100% sure that most regulars of this thread don't own one. If they give an opinion, it's an unqualified one based on pure speculation. 

You don't seem to have an answer either.

Would you believe me if I told you that if you were to wipe down all of your cables and electronics with a damp cloth that the system would sound better? You would be removing static by doing so... Yep, I’ve done this and it is true but then again, if i say this, i become the "crazy guy"...

Audio industry is something we don’t fully understand and this is why WE ALL will continue to keep feeding it millions of dollars. 

It would be more accurate to say that there are aspects of audio equipment that you do not understand. For instance. All my electronics are in metal cases, and those metal cases are connected to earth-ground. All my cables are connected to my equipment, XLRs having a dedicated earth ground (and shield)  There is no static to wipe of an earth grounded metal case. The grounding on the XLR would continuously bleed charge even on an insulator since none are perfect, however, even if it didn't, the shield would provide a 0 equipotential for the interior conductors.

Measurements mean nothing...take your PhD with you and go write a paper or something. It's been brought to my attention via private messages that most of your posts throughout audiogon are confrontational. I won't get into it with you. 

Measurements mean nothing? Good thing it is not you designing the battery for your next car or cell phone. You would need strong shoulders. YOU literally claimed that charging the battery with different power cords made a change in the sound operating without a cord. Think long and hard about that one and how patently foolish that claim is.

If you can convince yourself of that claim, that changing the cord for charging changes the sound when running on batteries, then you can convince yourself of almost anything that is not true. Get into it with me or not. It is not me who made a ludicrous statement that makes everything your have said or will say suspect.

Then you talk about wiping static off a grounded metal case. I have no words, and I suspect almost all here will understand that that is not possible. A basic understanding of electricity goes a long way.

If confrontational is to point out so things that are written that are so obviously not only wrong, but impossible, then I am good with being confrontational it seems more of that is needed.

Oh Boy. 

Go knock on someone else’s door. Explain to them why tubes are terrible since they have distortion. Also let the masses know why cables don’t make a difference while you hold a voltmeter on the opposite hand. I think audioholics could use your skill set.

Don’t forget to tell Michael Fremer why his Wilson XVX are not that great since the measurements taken by John Atkinson were not that PHD perfect. I’m sure Fremer will gladly respond to you.

Lastly, leave that degree in the drawer. Means nothing unless you live with this stuff. Theory is great but practice and experience is what counts. No wonder why so many college graduates are failing after they get a job. College doesn’t teach you how to have drive, hustle, strong will and have common sense.

Someone in my military days said something very powerful that I’ll never forget: " i respect the rank, but not the person wearing it"

Truth...

Ps: i am still wondering why characters like you pop up on this thread randomly and piss on my lawn only to be blasted away after a few days. ..maybe other threads are not that entertaining... Or they come to me for an attitude adjustment which I'm tired of doing. 

The dude who comments on my room..I’d love to see yours buddy. Don’t hide and show us your concert hall.

We must rip a page off your book and learn a few things...oh and thank you for beating around the bush with regards to cables...you didn’t have much to say about that huh? Or about tubes? Hmm...you pick your battles, but the unfortunate truth is you cant dodge my bullets.

Go away and keep writing. We are all anxiously waiting to read your theories about high end audio. When is your YouTube channel going live? I’d subscribe...

Nobody wants to read lengthy stupid papers about audio...don’t let the truth hurt your feelings... People want to see, touch and hear components they are interested in...

You’re pure talk...SHOW ME your YouTube channel and world class room with electronics and I’ll LITERALLY HUSH and shut down this thread... DO IT... Or close the computer and go feed your cat 😸....

You come in here making fun of me?.what do you own? SHOW US your system. Let me see the insanity you got in your room...

The world is sitting down waiting to see this episode... 

Next time you got something to say, come at me in a civil manner and not with the attitude you came. If you feel the need to give me that attitude then do it in person... Just let me call 911 first. 

😂

Oh Jay, I am not the one with the Youtube channel, with the minimal and poorly laid out acoustics, claiming to be an expert in audio, meanwhile claiming that changing the charging power cord impacts the sound when running on battery alone. That is you. That is all you.  I am not the one that has created a major deficit in credibility with their statements, again that is you talking about wiping the static electricity off grounded metal parts. All you.

Instead of being a bully, perhaps consider that you are both wrong and mistaken.

@deludedaudiophile

You might have heard the phrase - "the proof is in the pudding", and WC here has repeatedly provided his subjective proof.   He can make these claims, because he's actually heard it. 

Some folks scream "confirmation or expectation bias", but honestly, the folks who do these comparisons  (like WC and myself included) are typically very critical and don't want to have to spend money on more expensive cabling, etc, unless there's enough proof to convince us.  

So, you're saying it's a ridiculous claim, but until you experience it and hear what WC hears, your claim is actually the ridiculous one.

Dave

I have watched the slow deterioration of this thread from the beginning.  There was once a younger audiophile who liked music and sought a journey to improve his system.  Now you are becoming no different from any of the mainstream reviewers becoming a self appointed audio guru with his chorus of disciples.  You are quick to dismiss anyone who disagrees with you and reject science and engineering theory: remember that is what has got us to where we are today .  Instead you are descending into a Harry Pearson wanna be who claims to have the golden ears so much better than ours who can now dictate the truth.  You talk about experience yet it has only a few years since the beginning of your quest when many of us here have been in this hobby for decades.  I guess this should have been expected as this thread is now part of a commercial enterprise searching for viewers and dollars, even as evidenced by your  cheap ploy little teasers.... ooh guess what new thing I have coming stay tuned.  This was once a great thread but no longer worth the daily read..  

Thanks to those of you who messaged me privately to stop engaging in this pettiness that seems to be like a virus that comes and goes. 

I will listen to you and stop now  because you have been part of my core and clearly stood next to me since the beginning of time. Thanks!

Dave,

So, you're saying it's a ridiculous claim, but until you experience it and hear what WC hears, your claim is actually the ridiculous one.

He claimed that changing the cable used during charging of the battery made a difference in the sound when he runs on batteries alone. This is equivalent to not needing to jump out of a tall building without a parachute to know it is going to hurt.

If he or anyone else does not pause and go, that is obviously not possible, therefore, I really need to do better listening tests, then I don't know what to tell you. Common sense should normally come into play.

@deludedaudiophile 

I have found many things in audio that seem unbelievable, until I actually hear it.   That only comes when one can jump from common sense/theory/speculation, etc and enter the world of true experience.  Unfortunately, I can't help there - that decision is up to you.

Dave

@deludedaudiophile 

Yes, "Common sense should normally come into play". Please, at your convenience, do the listening tests with the same product for yourself, then come back and report. Nope, I haven't done it, so I have no right to say otherwise.

Jay thank you for all you have shared with us here. The critics are critics. You know you don't have to agree or even listen to them. In their world there is something wrong that you do or the way you are going about things. Don't live in their world for your own benefit. Enjoy your world and do it with those that want you to enjoy it with you.  All the individuals I know that have more knowledge and experience and want to chime in and help a situation go about things a whole lot differently.

shannere - Amen.  This is exactly what has been happening.  The points raised are spot on.

Jay - You should list the entities you have a commercial affiliation with (i.e. Stromtank, et al.) in a central location and keep this list updated.

Sometimes slight misunderstanding over time create wars...

It is on the news...

I think the OP dont claim anything about the battery structure and materials here, he comment about his hearing appreciation with some changes...

By the way if you change your provocative "alias" meaning " all audiophiles are deluded ", you will be less dogmatical in your attitude because name matter...

There exist all kind of audiophiles and putting all them in a despising manner in the same bag is not a glorious enterprise, especially when confusing "measures" with the content of a listening experience....They must be correlated in experiments not one reduced to the other....

For me by the way cables are secondary, acoustic psycho-acoustic matter most... But i am not dogmatic and i know what difference cables can made...

Knowing how to make a battery has nothing to do with listening an audio system nor with acoustic/psycho-acoustic...

I design batteries for a living, at the structural level. I mean how many people can make that claim? The claim is beyond ludicrous.