@whitefishpoint1175
I do value anomalies, but my bet is that any success SimAudio may find with their speakers will be both modest, and related to brand loyalty. And I arrived at that conclusion before I read this:
Dominique Poupart, MOON’s Product Manager, commented, “We are thrilled that one can now own a complete MOON system, one that wouldn’t depend on other manufacturers’ loudspeakers.
I don't doubt that a complete MOON system would sound relatively good. But I am skeptical that their speakers will be good enough to carve out serious market share in a very competitive space, populated by dedicated speaker manufacturers.
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These speakers have some impressive spes, like 89dBs sensitivity for a speaker of that size. Wondering how do they accomplished that
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@whipsaw a great lunch spot in Odessa, TX (ugh) is a place called ChianMex you can get Fajitas with a side of Chicken Fried Rice and Eggrolls. Yummi.
Was just an observation not casting dispersions.
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Thanks for explaining. I would think adding two subwoofers would allow the bookshelf speakers to play down lower.
I am sure that the Sim will need 2 subs well controlled yes and they will be great...
My speaker woofer has 2 more centimeter of diameter and a bigger box well damped over 80 pounds of concrete on platform and springs under and over them under the damping load...
This is why they sound great ...With room acoustic control...But it is not suitable for a living room... It is why the only luxury in audio for me is not the gear but a room...
I am glad to need no subs...
The less is the best....😁😊
My deepest respect to you....
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Thanks for explaining. I would think adding two subwoofers would allow the bookshelf speakers to play down lower.
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I do not know why people buy bookshelf speakers when tower speakers play down lower. However, I firmly believe adding a pair of REL subwoofers is the key to extending the bass seamlessly. Their high-level connection technology is revolutionary.
Because my room is too small... 😁😊 13 feet square....
Because i need to put the speakers on my desk in my small dedicated room...
I have the choice of using the living room with bigger speakers or using a dedicated smaller room... I take the best choice acoustically, no speaker beat a room...I could experiment in acoustic and optimize them so much that they were better in my acoustically controlled room than the superior design of the Tannoy in ordinary living room... Then, acoustic rule, not the box.....
I sold my two pairs of dual gold superior Tannoy to buy the relatively inferior designed Mission because of size and British reputation...I never regret it...thanks to acoustic...
I will never upgrade this 50 bucks speakers... 😁😊
If i compared with the Sim audio i doubt that they will beat the Mission Cyrus in bass impact...
I disconnected my Kreisel sub....😁 After buying it for that role... But to my surprize It was enough bass with the speakers alone... And more natural...I listen only classical and jazz or asian music... 😁😊
Room acoustic help a lot... Even gong sound like gong i feel them with my chest... Not bad for a 7 inches woofer in an alleged "bad" square room.....But acoustic is a field with many possibilities...I used some...
But Sim audio had a great reputation, i will buy them if i need some smaller one than what i already have...I even fream about their amplifier ans integrated dac few years ago...I did not buy it by limited budget reason... Sim is one of the serious audio business...I will surely read the reviews of this speaker... I am curious and anyway i lived in Quebec and Sim is from Quebec...
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https://www.hifiengine.com/manual_library/cyrus/781.shtml
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So do you have the same opinions when it comes to buying spark plugs, alternators, dishwashers, outboard motors, airplanes, cars, motorcycles and pianos. There are many companies with cross channel marketing and functionality.
I made my basic stance clear above, but to be more specific, I don’t think that anyone is suggesting that it isn’t possible for a company to be versatile, and to make a variety of different components of similar quality, but broadly speaking, focussed companies are, as a group, likely to be the most reliable sources of high-quality products.
I expect that, to name just a few, Gryphon, SimAudio, and Bryston produce high-quality DACs. But at the same time, I believe that the best and most innovative designs are more likely to emanate from companies that are focussed exclusively on DAC production.
And I would expect that the same is even more true of speakers, given the differences between their designs and those of electronics such as amps, transports and DACs.
There may be a restaurant somewhere that serves fantastic sushi, along with pizza and hamburgers. But when I am in the mood for the former, I seek out a Japanese restaurant, as I expect the odds of a good meal to be much more in my favor.
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I find these opinions interesting especially the ones like this. I am not calling anyone out just find it interesting.
seems Moon is looking to be able to provide a total solution with speakers like Linn and Rega are able to do...
I think it's an uphill battle except for someone looking at the ACE. I'm a fan of Moon electronics and would be more inclined to buy if there book shelf/stand mounted speakers Sonus faber or other speaker focused companies.
So do you have the same opinions when it comes to buying spark plugs, alternators, dishwashers, outboard motors, airplanes, cars, motorcycles and pianos. There are many companies with cross channel marketing and functionality.
Bosch, Honda, Yamaha, Hyundai, Audi, Boeing, General Dynamics, just to name a few.
So you would not be inclined to buy speakers from T+A, Macintosh, ATC, JBL, Gryphon, Quad.......
@larry5729 people buy stand mounts for two reasons, room size and they like the sound.
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Interesting introduction - seems Moon is looking to be able to provide a total solution with speakers like Linn and Rega are able to do...
I think it's an uphill battle except for someone looking at the ACE. I'm a fan of Moon electronics and would be more inclined to buy if there book shelf/stand mounted speakers Sonus faber or other speaker focused companies.
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I do not know why people buy bookshelf speakers when tower speakers play down lower. However, I firmly believe adding a pair of REL subwoofers is the key to extending the bass seamlessly. Their high-level connection technology is revolutionary.
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Make assumptions much havocman?
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So I am assuming you own Monitor Audio speaker mister @havocman ?
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If they are not as good as the monitor audio speakers I don't want to hear them as monitor audio speakers are bad. Hopefully they are not just another cheap Canadian speaker there are so many of those made there developed in the national research Council s anechoic chamber.
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Listen up sells their electronics so I would imagine they will carry the speakers as well
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because I know how good the monitor audio speakers are their driver technology is way ahead of almost every other company out there no dome tweeter is even close to being as good as an AMT tweeter or as monitor audio calls theirs MPD tweeter, and Sim audio has never made speakers they make some of the best electronics on the market but they're not experts in speaker design like monitor audio is. and the drivers the're using are nothing special.
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Do they make thier own drivers? Two good things…. The dampening technique is interesting and the crossover parts are high end.
Does anyone know who their US distributor is?
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yes they're an electronics manufacturer not a speaker manufacturer the monitor audio gold and platinum lines are much better than this speaker.
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Broaden their product offerings, increase revenue. Now it would be something if they made the drivers they use🙃. Don’t get me wrong, sim makes good stuff but we just don’t need another speaker manufacturer using generic parts. My $.02.
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I think they may cater to the Moon by Simaudio crowd and focus on customers of their ACE A-I-O integrated. Bet we will see a a bundle next.
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I wonder how they will be. They are choosing to enter a segment that's already over crowded with good options.
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I prefer not to eat at restaurants that serve Indian and Italian food. Yes, the analogy is loose, and I do have respect for SimAudio. But I definitely prefer to buy components made by manufacturers which have a relatively fine focus.
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So true and these folks do make so very fine equipment. I am sure they would not want to taint the brand with this venture.
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Yes, but don't they all. I guess they must have researched it and determithat there are audiophiles interested in a speaker made by them.
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Just what the world needs, yet another small two-way monitor.
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