I'm sorry, I apologize, please forgive me for doubting all of you who have told me of the need for the Mint Protractor. I got it today, and just did a quick check to find that the cartridge is indeed off set up with the VPI protractor that comes with the Supercout/10.5i. I read the directions and it is a very tedious, and slow going procedure, so I'll get back in a while and tell you if I hear any differences.
If the Moderators would be so kind, I would like adding my $.02. I just got around to using my Mintlp Protractor on my VPI HW-19 Table, with AQ PT-9 Arm, and spent about 1-1/2 hours with this Alignment process. Hopefully, I can add what hasn't been covered by others, and will be helpful as a reference for the Mintlp.
Firstly, I'll state, comfort is paramount, know that you will be in front of the Table for a length of time, and w4ill be an impossibility standing over any Table in a Rack, and trying to perform this procedure. I know that lifting my Table, which must weigh near 60lbs as it is right now, out of Rack to place on the Kitchen Table is no fun!
Yes, my alignment, which was proviously done as meticulously as I could with a Turntable Basics Mirror Protractor was off.
When Aligning Stylus to the outside of the Mintlp Arc, and then swinging to the inside of Arc, I estimate I was off by a full 1.00mm, maybe even a tad more which probably equates to an error of +-.5mm. Checking the Carrtridge-Cantilever Zenith at the two Null Points was slightly off as well.
Conclusion is, that the Mintlp has much greater resolution for one, and the other is mis-interpretation error of trying to perfectly align a Sight-Line Type Protractor.
Since I did provide Yip with my Spindle Dia, of .282", I did find Yip made it a perfect, snug fit, and I felt there was no need to tape Spindle to Platter, that it stayed put as long as you don't bump it. I found that by leaving the Tractor in this state, it was easier to very carefull "nudge" the Tractor for the Alignment process. I'd like to comment that the surface of the Mintlp is not quite so "sticky", as others have claimed, that if one excersizes care, and doesn't have "the shakes", one can ever so carefully nudge the Tractor, or nudge the Tonearm, without too much worry of having your Stylus pop off the Cantilever, or yanking Cantilever from Cartridge Body.
Yip ingeniously left the area where the two Null Points are a clear Vinyl, thus enabling one to much easier see the Null Lines, thier reflections in the Mirror, and the ever so tiny reference "Tics".
Although "easy" is a relative term. With my ZYX Airy 3X, trust me when I say it is NOT easy seeing such a tiny little Stylus!
This is exasperated by the fact that Yip's reference lines-grid, and reference Tics are almost miscroscopic in nature.
I will comment that just the lighted Magnifier that Yip includes with his Protractor will not be enough to let you properly accomplish the task of alignment. All this Magnifier will help you through, is perhaps setting overhang. It is I feel not sufficient for doing the Zenith Alignment, or checking exact placement of Stylus on the reference Null Point Tics.
With that being said, one should have the "10X Lupe" which it is called, that Yip sells extra, and I found I pulled out every Magnifier, and Loupe I have in my possession, which were two lighted Magnifiers, and three Loupes, Yip's, a 10X B+L, I have, and also a 30X fold away Loupe which I bought a couple of months ago at a gun show for $8.
The Loupes are a definitely needed item, but they too can be a PITA, due to the limited, short Depth of Field.
I also complimented my efforts with my Littlite, with 18" Gooseneck, and this was a handy item, letting me position the light in any way I wished, trying light at different angles to gain every advantage I could. Nice thing about the Littlite, it stays were you put it.
Looking at the Null Grid from a position at the front of the Cartridge, is exactly Akin to looking down a little Two Lane Road, with Centerline, and the Parallax feature incorporated into this Protractor is really pretty cool! It appears Yip has done his homework very well.
Here at the front of Cartridge, and also at the very farthest outside origin of the Arc though, are about the only two places where you may get close enough to actually implement the higher power magnification of the Loupe. Due to lack of depth of field, it is a very testy process trying to get close enough to focus the Stylus into view with Loupe. (perhaps you guys with the nudies, like the Benz Gliders will have an easier time with this)
I cannot stress enough, to make sure you use every little process-Loupe-Magnifier-Lighting-Comfort-Aid to your advantage. It will be these things that will enhance the use of this Protractor, and lessen the chance of any fubars, or grey hairs. The ultimate goal is of course, getting your Stylus dead nuts on the money, and your efforts will no doubt be greatly rewarded.
As Yip explains, take many breaks, do some, walk away, come back, check again, over, and over, so that when finally done, one has absolutely no doubts that your efforts were not wasted in vain.
I have noted that you will probably notice as I did, some very miniscule "Scratching" at the center of Reference Grids occuring, caused by the diamond tip scratching the vinyl surface of the Protractor. I imagine this cannot be avoided.
A couple of times through the process, I did do as Yip suggested, using a Q-Tip, with Alcohol to wipe the surface at the reference grids.
As to how is sounds, I didn't get too much listen time in, perhaps an hour, to test a couple of very good LPs, and it is too early to comment with numerous paragraphs of all the audiophile catch-phrases, but I will say that my sound has certainly not gotten worse with my aligning efforts, with my Airy 3X Cartridge, and I seemed to initially notice better definition-attack on leading edge of dynamic transients, slightly better, crisper detail in treble response.
As I close, I will say the Mintlp Protractor was money well spent, and I thank Yip for providing us folks with a really good product that does what its supposed to do. Mark
I got my Mint Protractor yesterday. Before I ordered my protractor, I measured the spindle diameter with a caliper, just to make sure the diameter stated by Acoustic Signature was correct. At first, I was surprised that Yip is such a perfectionist that he even takes into consideration the diameter of the spindle so that the protractor fits snugly around it. That's the way it should be! If the protractor fits loosely around the spindle, then the cartridge setup will be off.
Any other protractor I've used fits either loosely or too tight on my turntable. Because of this, I made my own arc protractor based on the dimensions provided by Dynavector. It's a simple drawing that I printed on thick photo paper. I thought I was being precise by having all my lines 0.5mm thick, but after getting the Mint Protractor I realized that a 0.5mm thick line is too thick for such a precise setup. The arc line and the null point lines from the Mint Protractor can be defined as "hair lines".
The instructions for using the Mint Protractor are very clear. In my experience, the thinner the lines of the protractor, the longer it may take to setup the cartridge. The setup took about 2 hours. I just kept working on it until the tip of the stylus was right in the middle of the arc line at both ends. With Yip's clever instructions, I found the null points easier to setup.
With such a precision tool, I was eventually expecting a more controlled sound presentation from my system. Instead I got that, plus a lot more. Sibilants are now quite sharp and distortion-free. There is more layer definition as well. It is as if a can see that an instrument is in front of another instrument. The silences are so dead quiet that sometimes, for a split of a second, I thought that something must have failed because there was no sound. All the nuances and details of the performance are now more present, which makes everything sound more real.
After the setup, my entire analogue system sounds like it has been updated one or two steps up. I'm very relieved that after so many years, finally somebody has developed a protractor that will absolutely reveal the true potential of an analogue playback system. This precision tool should be a must for anybody who is serious about analogue playback.
Just a heads up, I got my Mintlp Protractor today. First time I ever got anything for Hong Kong in my life, and perhaps Yip should offer a side service, where he could ship me in a few bottles of some really good Chinese Oyster Sauce! lol Yummy!
Anyway, all arrived intact, Yip did a fine job of packing. I like the lighted magnifier, much smaller, and probably easier to use, than the huge affair I have on hand.
I like the personalized flair that Yip sis with these, it's made "especially for me"! The 211mm AQ PT Arc will work for both tables I have.
So, I'm looking at the Protractor, and saying to myself, ahh, a nice fine Arc line, but I only see just two lines on the Null Grids. Hmm, I thought.
Yanking out the 10X Loupe I have, I look closely at the Null Grids to discover two thicker lines, and three very fine lines in between, plus a very minute Tic, right on the Arc, which it where the Stylus must be placed.
While I haven't done the alingment yet (I know one must be prepped, and in a very happy mood before toying with anything like this) It looks to me, that Yip has made a very good product, with very high resolution.
It must be this ultra-fine resolution that sets his Protractor apart from many others avaliable.
Hopefully, I'll find a correct Spindle sized hole when I begin. I'll write again, when I can offer more to us 'Goners here. Mark
Thanks Dan ed, I think I'll have to contact VPI. This has to have come up before. Meanwhile, it's not the end of the world I guess. I think the marks may even be fading a little. No more Scotch tape for me though.
Once I attempted to clean my platter surface with a little Simple Green and it left a little discoloration in the graphite. Based on that experience I chickened out on trying the Goo Gone. I have done some testing with Kleenex and I can't detect that there was no adhesive left behind by the tape.
I confess. I can't get myself around the platter without nudging the platter or mirror. So tape will be employed during the Minting process on my table. Try spending at least 5 minutes getting the overhang set correctly on the protractor surface, then move on to the first null only to find that you've nudged things just enough to see space between the line and the stylus. AARRGGHHHH!!!
I've compromised and now tape the mirror to the side of the platter instead of the surface. No more marks, no more movement, no more slinging my eyepiece across the room in disgust. ;-)
Agree regarding NOT having to secure a high mass platter including the Mint. However I did anyway, per Yips instruction and for reasons Tvad points out.
For those whom skill level is not up there with Palasr, Doug and others , just follow the instructions and tips in Yips excellent manual. You will get there.
My guess with inherently less tracing errors with 12 inch arms, Minting a good one should have mind blowing results.
For those that have a table that will accommodate more then one arm. Anyone here Mint more then one arm on their table specifically a 12 inch-er?
Hey Guys, several weeks ago when I aligned my cartridge and VPI JMW 9 on a Scout with Super Platter, using a MintLP, I inserted three foam rubber wedges in a triangular fashion around the platter between it and the plinth and they held it in place with no problem. These wedges are the ones that women use to put make up on their faces .
Sonofjim,regarding the annoying(looking)marks left by "Scotch Tape"....
First off, "painters tape" does not have as good an adhesive,and can easily dislodge if you're not careful.Yet,it is very good in many scenarios(don't buy the el-cheapo stuff).
The problem with the vast majority of "Scotch Tape" products,is they are usually NOT "Scotch Tape",and dirt cheap imitators.
"Scotch Tape" is made by 3M company,whose products are superb,and the tapes stick/hold better than competitors.
However,the actual glue which on other brands can leave an ugly layer behind,does not have the propensity to do that.The adhesive IS superior,and designed to stay on the tape itself.
Any digital scale should be satisfactory. I use the Audio Additives and like it. It was $99. I doubt spending more than that gets you anything extra. This is harder with a 9 sig than the 10.5i with the VTA adjustment knob, but the VTF measurement really should be done with the arm level to the platter. This means raising the back for the measurement. If you fold an index card lengthwise exactly you can put it next to the arm and it's a lot easier to tell if that tapered arm is level(ala Stringreen). Then of course, level the arm back to record level when done. VTA is hard enough to change on the 9 sig that you'll probably have the best and easiest results just leveling the arm to 180 gm record range and leaving it there. As long as azimuth is still reasonably close, you're then ready to align with the Mint tractor. And on and on it goes but it's worth it.
I do have Fremer's video - it's given me a good understanding of what's involved, how some things work etc, but I'm not yet at the stage where I'm going to tackle things myself. that being said, I can totally understand the benefits of that and acquiring the tools is the first step.
I'm sure I'll be watching Fremer's video several more times. :-)
I ordered a Project stylus force gauge from musicdirect.com; hopefully this will handle the VTF duties adequately (if not, please straighten me out).
I'll check VPIs site for the measurements and double check them.
Madfloyd, Yip will need your pivot to spindle distance and overhang both of which will be posted on the VPI website. Take the arm off and measure yourself too just to double check. Your dealer obviously set your table up using some other tool so don't be surprised if the overhang is different.(I'd be surprised if it wasn't)Also, bear in mind that each time you make a change in one parameter it often affects others as well. You'll need some sort of scale to set VTF to the approximate range first. Otherwise when you change it you'll likely change the overhang too. Even when you're done, always double check everything to make sure no adjustment has changed another parameter unintentionally. If you don't have Fremer's video, it's a good way to get oriented to all you need to do in the beginning though you'll soon develop your own habits. You can recheck all of this with your VPI jig too before the mint arrives and acheive surprising results with it too. This all takes practice and patience but it will go a long way in getting you where you want to be.
I think I might try the blue painter's tape when I align my 90x hopfully this weekend. The marks from the Scotch tape are not that bad but I'd just as soon avoid them. I did recheck my alignment and overhang on the Benz LP without tape after increasing VTF to my prefered range without mishap. I think the marks are already fadding(wishful thinking?) Like others I'm quite satisfied with this method of alignment. I am most impressed with the tool itself. I feel much more confident that I got it right thanks to the lack of paralax interference and the flat and accurate tool. I still think the VPI alignment sounds quite good but wonder if an arc style protractor wet up to that method will ever be available. Is that what the Wally is? On the Fremer video, his Wally alignment seems to match up well with Harry's.
Agreed, especially with most turntables. Dealing with the Teres, Galibier, Redpoint or any other high-mass table however is a different matter -- 35 lb. platters just don't really move too easily on their own!
I haven't bothered taping the platter or a protractor in several years. If you work carefully and delicately then nothing will move. If you don't work carefully and delicately, you shouldn't be aligning a phono cartrdidge! :-)
OOOPS...I didn't use Scotch Tape. I used a thick tape that I use when repairing violins...I knew it wouldn't leave a residue...sorry. I would call or write to VPI and ask them what they recommend. Stan
I've abandoned the tape-down approach altogether. Between the weight of the plate glass protractor and the platter on the Galibier, it simply doesn't move. I used to tape the platter to the 'plinth' using blue painter's tape, but now I find even this to be unnecessary. I do however go back and reconfirm overhang when I've completed alignment.
I see the same thing from the tape on my Galibier platter as well. Not hard to do with a graphite surface. As you said, there doesn't appear to be any adhesive but there still may be. I'm going to try a little Goo Gone just to see.
Stringreen, I aligned my Benz LP with this excellent tractor this morning as directed. I find the results very satisfying already although I have some VTF adjusting to do. The cartridge had to come back about 2 mm to accomidate Yip's overhang and this has changed my VTF from 1.95 to about 1.87 causing a slight loss in bass weight. Hoping that increasing VTF slghtly won't throw off the overhang but so it goes. My main question and minor problem is that the Scotch tape holding the tractor in place has left light marks on my super platter. Did you encounter this and if so did you get them off somehow. There's no adhesive residue and distilled water has failed to remove them. Maybe in time they'll fade. The LP contiues to impress by the way. It's a fine cartridge.
Doug's suggestion of unscrewing the clear base from the loupe really helps. I was able to use it that way with my progressive glasses on, and I am VERY farsighted.
I still have not received my Mint tractor so can't add my alignment experience but let me say this about Yip's service. He obviously follows these threads because I hadn't even contacted him yet and I had an e-mail expressing his concern. He checked his records and has assisted me in tracking it down to the post office right here in West Des Moines. Evidently we've just been missing the mail man every time he tries to deliver it. Here's a guy with a great product at a very fair price and service that's really above and beyond. How often do you find that anywhere?
Emailists..I wear reading glasses (father time is creeping up on me), and found that the supplied illuminated magnifier worked best without my glasses. I also have the 10x loupe which I found very difficult to focus with my eyes...others with younger eyes would probably benefit. To find the proper focus...put the magnifier near the cartridge, and move your head farther and closer until the image is clear.
I bought the Mint LP protractor recently but have not been able to yet do an alignment. Right now I keep swtiching carts so frequently since I had to send my Strain Gauge cart back to Soundsmith for an extra styli to be fit.
I can't wait to get my system settled so I can do a proper alignment, and experience Yip's excellent product. He was also great to deal with via email.
The one shortcoming I find of this entire process, is that I find it difficult to easily see the stylus tip on the protractor. I am using a 10X lupe in reverse, the 6X magnifier provided by Yip, and another brand of 10X magnifier I bought from B&H.
I wonder if there is some type of tiny fiber optic lens that could get very close and allow viewing from 6-12" away or further.
When you get yours, don't be satisfied with anything less than perfection. It pays off. The effective length for the 10.5 is 256 with 15mm overhang. It says that on the VPI website and is correct. I believe at one time the numbers were wrong, but it is correct now.
I spent some time with Doug(deacon) and Paul yesterday and I can report that the speaker integration and what I would call more "holistic" sound are there in spades. Now they also have new speakers (Diamond version B&Ws, 805d I think; replacing non-diamond 805s) so some of what I heard is undoubtedly a result of that change. But the somewhat "analytical" nature of their system has now tipped toward "relaxed" or musical. More precise imaging, wider soundstage, excellent pitch definition in the bass. BTW, we also found that their Tri-P/Univ arm/cart tracked the problem child new Norah Jones live LP just fine. I'm a big fan of hers, so I'm sorry to report that the recording, esp. the bass, is, well there's no other way to put it, TERRIBLE. Paul thinks it was the result of miking they used; I have not idea, but the bass drum esp. was powerful and ill-defined, but with almost a reverb quality to it. Just a gigantic "thump". NO skin, no air, just WHAM!
Yep, Doug and all, I am certainly glad to be on the same page as you heavy hitters as far as the MintLP is concerned. My modestly-tricked-out Sig. Scout sounds better than I ever dreamed it would, the arc device from Yip making the biggest difference of all. Even budget set ups can sound great with alignment parameters maximized. Thanks to Yip, Mark, (Stiltskin) and all, and Audiogon for making it happen. Got to go and spin some vinyl!
We can most certainly thank Palasr for getting us up off our collective butts to try going arc-style. My relatively imprecise card-stock protractors (compared with Yip's MintLP's) immediately caught my attention, and while not perfect, they result in a far superior setup to anything I've achieved with ANY two point protractor.
It's to this point that I provide every new owner of a Schroeder, Triplanar, and Artisan tonearm one of these card-stock protractors - not as a final solution, but rather to provide sufficient evidence and motivation to point them to MintLP.
The biggest effect this order of magnitude level of alignment improvement has is that it takes you out of audiophile mode and into music appreciation mode.
Along these lines, I'm going to make a prediction about what you'll notice in the coming days - that you'll get less finicky about making VTA changes for individual records. Now, this has always been a dragon you've sought to slay, but my prediction is that it will become quite a bit smaller and will breath quite a bit less fire than before.
No lifting by the edges, no bending-flexing, remembering to lift the entire protractor straight up.
Bending and flexing aren't possible. It's a sturdy sheet of glass. Lifting straight up? It's such a snug fit on the spindle there's no other choice. Swinging it back and forth while nudging upward/downward near the spindle works best.
CAUTION: Take care to not move the protractor or tonearm when the stylus is down on the plastic sheet. The tip can hold on and that would stess the cantilever and/or damage the sheet.
TIP: If your tonearm has VTA adjustment, remember to raise it to compensate for the thickness. You want to align with the cartridge at a normal playing angle.
This valuable thread (agreeing with Stiltskin) has also proved what we all knew, that a tangential tracking arm has the potential to be superior to any pivoting arm. Even with "perfect" alignment all we've done is managed tracking angle error. We've not eliminated it. Users of top end tangential arms are smiling while sharing knowing winks. ;-)
Further Minty observations: Paul reports speaker integration for the first time. His favorite chair is way off center so he never listens for imaging. From that position we've always heard two distinct speakers, no center image. After Minting there's some center image integration happening for the first time.
After 2-3 sides my ears told me I could reduce anti-skating. I went from 3 little O-rings on the A/S dogleg to 2 and had the impression I still had a hair too much. Last night I reduced to 1 O-ring and even very dynamic LP's tracked perfectly. Another benefit of the Mint, since reducing A/S always improves cartridge performance. :-)
Hi All, i placed an order with Yip as well. I figured might as well jump in both feet in like you guys. However, Yip returns an email asking for spindle diameter. No problem there as i have a micrometer to measure.
He also asks to look at the tonearm spec sheet for: effective lenght and spindle to pivot distance. OK for the effective lenght but the PTSD don't you have to physically measure this with a ruler. I do not think that PTSD would be stated in the owner's manual (spec sheet). Tonearm is a Phantom II. Clarification welcomed......
Doug, good write up on the effect the Mint had on your system.
Stringreen glad you started this thread, as we found out, precise cartridge set up IS absolutely critical.
I sent Yip's web info to the VPI dealer I heard the HRX and my Raven at. Also I apologize to you and other VPI owners for my offencive drunken rant.
On a lighter note regarding the use of the Mint tractor.
I borrowed a high quality 10x loupe with a 40mm barrel from a collector of ancient coins. I positioned the loupe on the platter with the bottom of the barrel about 3 mm or so from the stylus.
I then carefully ramped the loupe up on a angle so I could comfortably view the cantilever and stylus position on the tractor. This worked very well and with the exceptional clarity of the optics this was a tremendous help opposed to using inexpensive plastic lenses.
I found these 10 and $20. 8,10,and 12x loupes a real source of aggravation, poor optics and too small to handle in such a fragile area.
Spending a little extra for a high quality loupe you could also use it to view your stylus for stuck on vinyl deposits on occasion.
Yikes! Then I imagine one should remember to excersize extreme care when installing, and removing the mintlp protractor on Spindle?
No lifting by the edges, no bending-flexing, remembering to lift the entire protractor straight up.
I informed Yip my VPI HW-19 MK-IV Spindle was exactly .282" diameter. Hope it fits correctly, otherwise, crrrrrraack, and you can then chuck it in the garbage can! Hopefully it will fit, and I won't have to resort to some sort of sandpaper to ream the Spindle Hole.
I'm glad Stanley that your Benz LP is really singing now for you. I reckon you were worried, and pulled your hair out for awhile there, trying to hit that nirvana sweet spot with it. We were all stymied there for awhile.
I'm waiting to see what improvements might be had with my relatively low hour ZYX Airy3X. It's sounding pretty darn fine already, and gets better, and better each time I play it. Mark
Mark, It's both! ;-) Yip prints the overhang arc and alignment lines on a sheet of very thin, matte finish plastic, which he then applies to a glass mirror.
Well, I just ordered thr mintlp protractor as well, figured I might as well get on the band wagon with the rest of you fellas! lol I'll try posting my results as well when it comes.
Just a question I have, is this protractor indeed an actual glass mirror, or a plastic mirror, similar to the Turntable Basics Protractor?
Stanley (Stringreen) Remember about 9 months ago, you were having some sonic dislikes with your Benz LP Cartridge, and we were trying to weed through possible tweaks-adjustments to get you smiling? Maybe this was the one Key issue (alignment) that we all just didn't think of at the time? Mark
Stan, Harry is not correct, at least not with my 10.5i arm. I have the DB protractor, the VPI jig does not line up with the DB protractor. It is off by quite a large margin at the outer null point, closer at the inner null point. This, as expected, noting the VPI setup is closer to optimum at inner tracks vs. outer. I think I'm going to try the DB allignment next in order to acertain the effectiveness of the VPI jig.
I couldn't wait for Saturday to "Mint" my setup, so I did it Friday night. We had the Olympics on and I spent the evening jumping between TV and TT. Not the most focused approach and certainly not the fastest. It took me 5 hours, but 4 of those were spent watching the athletes. If I'd been doing nothing else a half hour would have been plenty. I'll double check the setup today with the help of daylight.
I would have sworn on a stack of London bluebacks that my spindle-to-pivot distance was correct, but since this is critical with an arc protractor I double checked. Good thing I did, it was short by nearly a mm!?! I don't know if it moved over time or if it got nudged somehow, but it's easy to adjust S2P with a pivoting armboard and now it's cranked down pretty snug.
My old alignment wasn't necessarily wrong because of the S2P error, since I was using a universal Baerwald protractor (TurnTableBasics), but the Mint is far more precise so it's likely to produce superior results.
I found using the Mint easy and intuitive, no more tedious than any other protractor and far more accurate. I haven't used a Wally, but nothing else I know of rivals this. As Yip's text and photos explain, the ability to use parallax to be sure you're sighting *exactly* down the alignment line is critical. This was always the best feature of the TurnTableBasics and no non-mirrored protractor can provide it. The Mint just adds several orders of magnitude better precision.
For my eyes the illuminated 5X loupe was fine, though the optional 10X loupe gives a better view of whether the stylus is *exactly* in the center of the arc. It's tough to get the viewing distance right with the 10X loupe since the field of focus is so short. One trick: unscrew the clear base and use just the black part - that lets you get closer. Yip's Tips on how to work and think are excellent BTW. People who have trouble or get frustrated at any stage should review those.
So, how does it sound? WOW!!! I expected audible improvements, but nothing like what we got. Most of what I'd describe would repeat what Stringreen, Sunnyboy1956, Palasr, Tshulba and Dan_Ed have already reported so I won't bore you. I'll just emphasize their enthusiasm. As Palasr said,
I urge you to try a GOOD arc-based protractor custom cut for your arm. You'll scratch your head wondering why you didn't try it sooner.
One thing several of them mentioned which we didn't get is greater blackness between the notes. Frankly, we already had that and Minting didn't increase it. What it did do between the notes was ennable even lower levels of detail. Decays and soundspace cues are much better than before, giving more of the illusion of a live event.
The other major change we heard that was not previously described may be cartridge-specific. The UNIverse/TriPlanar combo is unique in our experience at keeping separate musical sounds separate. The compexities that make up the timbre of a particular instrument and the L vs. R channel information that produce stereo imaging are never "mushed" together. If zenith alignment is off, this great resolution of tiny differences can make a system sound analytical. The slight time shifts caused by tracking angle errors don't produce painful distortions, they just let us hear each tiny sound slightly time shifted, which picks timbres and images apart. A time shift between L and R channel information also reduces peak amplitudes, since the two sounds aren't leaving the speakers at *exactly* the same moment. Our system has always had some of that character. It made it easy to hear and adjust what was going on system-wise, but it could be more analytical than musical.
Minting our setup changed all that. Without losing (and in fact gaining) low level detail and subtle harmonics, these are now better integrated and sound more like real voices and instruments and less like a collection of "sounds". L to R imaging is better, peak amplitudes are WAY better and the soundstage expanded in all directions, including upwards. Bass response in particular is much stronger but with more articulation.
Four musical examples:
Ella sings Gershwin Songbook (1970's Verve reissue, white label promo copy) - Ella's voice was more fleshy and human, less diagnostic. The backup orchestra became even more amazing as musicians. We heard little vamps and riffs that were literally inaudible before. An incredible record got incredibler!
Vivaldi, Concertos #1-3 from 'La Stravaganza'. Hogwood and the AAM on L'Oiseau Lyre (impossibly talented musicians on a great label) - Original instrument performances provide some of the toughest system tests we know of. The Mint nailed everything while bringing the vivacity of 18th century Venice to living, breathing life right in front of me. That must have been one rockin' convent! Minting produced extraordinary improvements in the reality, energy and emotion of every instrument. Vivaldi was a genuine superstar, and this playback session made it clear why.
Poulenc, Concerto for Organ and Orchestra, Marie Claire Alain on a late issue French Erato (the best, from that label) - YIKES! The poor cats zoomed out of the room. They couldn't take the increase in dynamics AND clarity. This is a big recording of a big piece, and the improvement in soundstage stability laid out every instrument in a 3-D holographic presentation that could make you believe you were there. The big, complex organ and drum lines were clear as crystal even while rattling the house more than ever before. This was just scary.
Dark Side of the Moon - some reissue - We aren't frequent rock listeners and Swampwalker, Dan_Ed and Raul will all tell you our system isn't voiced for it. Until last night we agreed with them. The main issue was that tendency of our system to pick most modern recordings apart and display the pieces in their separate little bits, obviously recorded in different sound spaces and assembled in the mixing room. Post-Minting, we can still hear all that but it's no longer thrown in our faces. The huge increase in bass amplitudes and the better integration of each instrument into a whole now lets this record ROCK like it should. Hope the neighbors didn't mind, it was 2AM. ;-)
So, if you have a rig worth optimizing and provided it's Baerwald compatible, I can't recommend the MintLP protractor highly enough. As others said above, it's an amazing upgrade for a very low cost. Buy it. Use it.
Viridian...I don't think that VPI has a different alignment. When I last spoke to Harry, he said that I could use the ubiquitous DB protractor as a check to the VPI protractor and get the same results. My thought is that the Mint protractor is more accurate. The device compensates for the dreaded parallax error which could introduce additional significant errors.
I've been watching this thread with some interest, as I've been enjoying the benefits of Yip's handiwork for a couple of weeks now. I was sure Stanley would find improvement over the VPI jig, as I did. So refreshing to get such major improvement with so little cash outlay. Wish I could find several more similar upgrades for so little money. Thanks Stan, for being so forthcoming with the happy results. I'm also quite interested in Doug's impressions after his re-calibration. Good stuff! Regards to all, Dan
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