Made In China


There seems to be a lot of varying opinion when it comes to China and the products that are made there. I personally know of an audio store in my home town that made the decision to no longer carry products with manufacturing ties in China. Maybe that’s why they have such a limited show room? Recently, I purchased a Cayin RU2 portable DAC and headphone dongle that‘s made in China. It’s the only audio product that I own that’s solely manufactured by a Chinese company and so far I have no complaints. Of course, my Apple products were likely made in China and I like those a lot. And if I’m correct (and I’m likely incorrect), Denafrips and Schiit Audio products are assembled in China but I’m uncertain where those companies are located. So I’m just wondering about audio products from Asia that offer high end build and sound quality. I would assume that most products from China, Korea, Japan, etc… offer a high value for the dollar? Anyway, please feel free to share your opinion and knowledge on this topic as I’m wanting to learn more about what‘s out made and engineered in that part of the world.

Thanks!

goofyfoot

On the cheaper line cabinets are made in China ,as well as drivers to their specifications . The Z euro doesnot stretch that far with the high inflation problems.

Made in China threads come up often enough to set your watch by. 
Must be a slow day.

All the best,
Nonoise

@audioman58 No that is not true. Was at one time but they moved all manufacturing back to Italy, where the best shoes come from too!

 

Sonus fabers lower level products also.

 

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Had a cayin h80a integrated. It sounded great. I also own Rowland amps and the quality is not even comparable but neither is the price. The cayin had its quirks but never failed. It’s a tough resale though. 

Each time i spoke to a narrow mind short of arguments in the last 8 years since i am here , when he does not know what to answer because the emperor clothes are revealed he attack me through this well chosen avatar ...

I pick this avatar for two reasons, i like this russian poet and singer , mythical persona in his country, and i picked it knowing that narrow mind as bull on a red flag will attack ...Then i can recognize the type of person with whom i spoke for who he is... Only children or narrow rageful mind will mock someone about his avatar as a last resort...

 

😁

Stay in audio...

I will stay on this matter too ...

 

LOL, I’m comical. Your avatar says it all.

 
 

 

 

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You are comical...

You speak half truths and we must stay silent ?

i Just give you the other side of the coin...

Take it eat it and keep it ...

Now back to audio matter...

 

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Do not confuse moderation with suggestion...

And to your sarcastic political post i gave another sarcastic political answer... my answer is as true as what you said by the way ... This means there is no valid reason to boycott china or US... Or we must boycott the two together ... 😁

Are you the only one who had the right to spoke political facts ? China kill uyghurs , true, but Us kiilled how many people in all wars think Vietnam and Iraq and all South American one etc ...

Read my posts and try to emulate my quality of posts before attacking me because to your brainwashing post i oppose another one ( perhaps truer )...

I like discussion , i never spoke english then my writing is heavy and lenghty but  i  propose some information ...

Are you a moderator? If not, it is not your place to moderate the threads here. 12,000 posts, a triumph of quantity over quality.

 

 

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I own two products from Denafrips, a Chinese company, and they seem to be very well made. I’ve had zero issues, although I’ve only owned them for slightly less than a year. They do come with a warranty and Denafrips has US support. They are also responsive to emails.  They have changed my opinion of Chinese made products in that it is possible to find well made/engineered Chinese components.

I prefer American products. The remembrances of at least 251 military interventions between 1991 and 2022 in no way affect the quality of the US audio product. And all governements change around the world and killings since 1945 is only for the greater good , no ?

Am i brainwash?😁

As i said it is better for the thread to stay on audio...😊

It’s just like my shoes. I have tried to wear shoes from other locales, but only Chinese made shoes are really soft and pliable. The tears of Chinese children really soak in and make the leather fantastic, and their little hands make the finest stitching. No more American junk for me.

I have worked for global high tech manufacturing companies for most of my career. Most recently spending about a week in mainland China and Japan each month, then for several months in Europe and Mexico in contract manufacturers and logistics centers. 
 

In general, Japan designs and manufactures excellent products of all kinds, China produces some of the finest products… think iPhones, complete junk, and everything in between. korea also produces some excellent products… think Aurender.

 

At the highest level, the best audio products come from the US, but with some outstanding products from Europe, Korea and Japan. I would say the US and Europe dominate. But, these are generalizations. When you drop down to lower tier stuff, it is all over the map. 
 

Overall, country of origin is of little consequence when purchasing equipment. 
 

 

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If we ban products to protest murders and slavery in all its form a few other countries must be put on trials... Guess which few of them we must add right now at the head of the list ?

 

Sad but true.

Perhaps it will be better to stay on audio matter about audio matter ?

I have owned a bunch of chinese products

But am getting away from it why 

For thr ccp runs everything inclufing child labor 

An wiegert slave labor.my uncle works as a engineer

And he seen first hand 80% live in poverty

Thats why no more and even Hegel is built in 

China but you neven hear about it 

Sonus fabers lower level products also.

Sad but true.

 

I own 4 low cost fantastic chinese products...

One from japan...

Two from germany ...

One from France...

No defects and complaints...

I enjoy audiophile experience with out of the head soundfield headphone...

I enjoy with the limitation of a small set of speakers almost audiophile sound with pin point imaging a soundstage englobing my position and even clear 50 hertz bass ......

i dont need anything more...😊

To really crush my system not a sidegrade will cost me instead of 1000 bucks , 15 times more (+ BACCH filters)... I am not frustrated because i enjoy the minimal acoustical satisfaction threshold as it is now ...

 

 

From the Schiit website see below:

Mike

 

''Designed and Built in California

By “designed and built in California" this is what we mean: the vast majority of the total production cost of Tyr—chassis, boards, transformers, assembly, etc—goes to US companies manufacturing in the US. Our chassis are made minutes from our facility. Our PCBs are done just over the hill from us. Our transformers are also made in California. All of this comes together in our Valencia, California facility, where each Tyr is assembled, tested, burned in for 3 days, and then listen-tested again. 

 

5-Year Warranty

Tyr is covered by a limited warranty that covers parts and labor for five years. That’s 5 years. Yes. FIVE. Which is up to 5X that of our competition, if you weren’t so hot at math. Note the marketing weasel-wording “up to.”

 

15-Day Satisfaction Guarantee

Try Tyr in your own house for 15 days. If you don’t like them, simply send them back for a refund, minus a 5% transaction fee. Try spending 15 days in an audio store. They’ll kick you out. Unless you buy them donuts. Maybe.''

Schitt is an American company and manufacturers in the USA.. There are value manufacturers in the USA,  Canada, various parts of Europe,  along with Asia. The only Chinese component I own is a Line Magnetic integrated Amp, 7 years no issues and very good sounding . 

Schiit is assembled in California and Texas, with mostly USA made parts...