LYRA DELOS IS AMAZING!!!!


After nearly throwing the LYRA DELOS in the garbage, a swap out of phono preamps have vindicated this fine cartridge.  The BAT VK P12 phono preamp has transformed the LYRA into a game changer. I retract all previous statements about this Cartridge other than it I do believe it sounds best with tubes or EXTREMELY high end solid state with FET's. Music now floats effortlessly without grain, without harshness and full of detail.  The Lyra tracks beautifully and is nearly as quiet as digital( no clicks and pops). 
jeffvegas
Ha! Love when that happens. Came here from your other thread. You have to be careful before going public with a denigrating statement about a product but kudos for admitting it. I’ve done it. One time I forgot to bias my amps after a tube change which led to a product having a "serious flaw", which wasn’t actually there.
You came to your other thread requesting assistance and advice, it was given to you by several well intentioned folk and even the designer of your Delos! Yet you stated that one of the members was essentially ignorant, all MC’s were broken and that the Delos was basically trash! Here you have the temerity to start this thread, and apparently apologize for thinking your Delos was not as you purported it to be...!
I think you owe Mr Carr an apology, if no one else. IMHO.
If you cant take the heat, get out of the kitchen!! Its a tough gig being a designer in high end audio. I'm sure Mr Carr has heard worse. The good news is he has a huge fan club. One of those fans came over to my place and dialed the Delos in. Don't know If it was setup or a different phono preamp was needed. No matter, I'm on my 7th hour of a music listening marathon.  
Well expectation are high, and your money's spent, BUT it sounds BAD.. 
I hate when that happens. Then I remember to turn something on, plug in a connection a little better or tighten a ground connection.

Magic.. mean time, you cussed out the mailperson for the mail being delivered to the wrong address and tried to bite them. Of course the pepper spray brought you right to your senses though..

Heel boy, Heel!! :-)

Regards
@daveyf If you have followed any of the threads started by Mr. Vegas you will see a trend towards insults and slander towards anyone with an opinion contrary to his. This is nothing new. It sometimes appears as though he  is not well and has a bi-polar condition.

Nothing new to see here………
So you’re not looking for a NEW $5k MM cartridge anymore after you claimed "MC’s are COMPLETELY overrated" and then "I hope some designer builds a balls to the wall Moving Magnet. Like a 5k dollar moving magnet. I’ll buy it. " ???

Even after J.Carr himself informed us several years ago about new Japanese MM Coreless straight-flux cartridges Suzaku and Seiryu.

Now when you’re in love again with your Lyra (such a happy end) you could consider J.Carr’s recommendations more seriously (for an alternative MM at $15k :)

Unfortunately we have not heard yet about any user of Suzaku (Red Sparrow) or Seiryu (Blue Dragon) cartridges here on audiogon.

Many Japanese cartridges are unknown in the USA. 


"The BAT VK P12 phono preamp has transformed the LYRA into a game changer."

For $8K or whatever the current MSRP is, it better. Your original post was suspect to me. I thought "what is the phono pre?"

Get the SE upgrade if you don't already have it. Just another $3K?!


Dear @jeffvegas :  Please do it a self favor and to other Delos owners and to the manufacturer too and delete your other thread.

Good that now you are ejoying your Lyra cartridge, congratulations.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,
R.
What an embarrassment. Lyra fan here. I have the Lyra Etna... way to try to ruin the Lyra name with your other thread.

Way to go.
The guy had a sub par phono stage, unable to show what the Lyra is capable of, that's all.

A negative thread ISN"T the end of world for an already established brand. No big deal
The guy had a sub par phono stage, unable to show what the Lyra is capable of, that's all.
Not necessarily.
One of those fans came over to my place and dialed the Delos in. Don't know If it was setup or a different phono preamp was needed.

The most stupid threads on audiogon are the most popular, but basically it's just an opinion of a stranger. Audiogon today is just a FAQ message board, people normally post here when they have some problem with their gear. How anyone can "ruin the name" of the internationally renowned brand by posting something on audiogon? Who cares about posts on audiogon? 
Opinion is fine.

But he was not having any of the recommendations and was just bad mouthing the Delos.  Believe it or not, people read up on these major purchases and a bad thread can leave a bad taste.

I followed the other thread, this guy doesn’t know what’s going on.
How acceptable is it to go on a web forum with a preconceived idea, not listen to any of the assistance or suggestions to mitigate the problem that was asked about? Then to denigrate not only the product in question but to also blatantly insult and ridicule those that are trying to offer assistance, and finally when the original designer of said product offers his assistance (which IMHO is going above and beyond by Mr.Carr), to essentially ignore that and go on denigrating!
@ozzy62 I have not followed any of the other threads by the OP, but he will now be on my ignore list..as I can see your points are correct about him.
@jeffvegas: Have you considered your obligation to append a copy of your laudatory comment to the earlier thread you started with unwarranted criticism of this excellent cartridge?

This thread was a good and courageous start at correcting the false impression that could only harm Lyra’s reputation in the audiophile community. But IIMO, you have more to do.

Peace . . . Out!
...and if struck by the urge to toss a cart (and follow through on it), PM me and I'll come dig for it....

(...already have a respirator and rubber gloves, and a hazmat suit isn't That hard to get...esp. recently....)  ;)

But, having an attack of good sense at the right time rates a +.5...all things considered.  And a bit of 'damage control' would be appropo...*S*
You will probably like the Delos even better with a top notch phono preamp.  Start looking for a Herron VTPH-2a.  No longer manufactured, but you might get lucky on the used market.   

I'm currently using a Lyra Skala with the VTPH-2a and find no need to upgrade at all.  Previous cart was a Soundsmith-rebuilt Clavis D.C.  Very musical, but on the thin side.  Always all Herron electronics for the last 20+ years.

The problem you now have is that your front-end will be better than your downstream components.  




i can confirm a Delos into a Herron is magical. The Lamm or ARC are better…but a 2-4x the cost, at which point a better Lyra makes more sense……
Yeah, I'll probably come off as a tin-eared Audiogon fanboy with this post, but I'm currently digging the heck out of my Nancy Wilson/Cannonball Adderley LP spinning beneath my Delos.
Looking forward to your update when a Usage Period of 150ish Hours are behind the Delos.
As for me, I'm looking forward to another train wreck of a thread where the OP calls everyone deaf and bashes their equipment choices.

Yeah, that's the ticket.........
no worries. everyone is entitled to their own reviews. but at very least the OP listens and try different things and willing to admit otherwise. this in my book is OK. pat on the back. 

the worse is advise is not taken try or keep quiet and just remain ignorant. 

delos potential is huge. play around and you will see @jeffvegas. very high performance and Alot of things can be done. I heard the nasty side and best side of this cart. if you can 'conquer' cart like that and make it sound good. you can 'conquer' any other cart. it's like the ns 10 yamaha speakers.can sound nasty but can be very special. due to the high transparency.