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**** I will never understand the silly compulsion some Jazz players have to try and connect Jazz with Africa. **** Personally, and not meaning to get personal 😊, I think a far more interesting question is why, in the face of so much musicological supporting evidence, not to mention the practically universal opinion of Jazz players, you are so bothered by the notion. |
I'm all in on Finland .One of my favorite young Finnish musicians on Trumpet . https://youtu.be/F0XjaDVZea4?t=4 |
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Personally, and not meaning to get personal 😊, I think a far more interesting question is why, in the face of so much musicological supporting evidence, not to mention the practically universal opinion of Jazz players, you are so bothered by the notion.***** The musicological "evidence" is agenda driven and therefore bogus. The players are great players, but their education and knowledge ends there. I am bothered because it's not true, and those people don't deserve 'credit' for anything based on the work and struggle of people in this country, just because of skin color. Cheers |
More African music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUcEGOLfUTE could have been called the Kenyan blues https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ_4cRG8B1g wow!! I thought I was in the Congo!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sOygJsLDc4 if you don't hear the African in this, you're deaf. Cheers |
Clear and succinct answer, thanks. I think you know that I strongly disagree with your take on this, but you did answer my question. Question: have you looked at the musicological evidence and do you feel you understand it? After all, we wouldn’t want to take away any due credit from “those people”. |
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Cultural anthropology is more to the point than Musicology. Where are the African Languages? Where are the African Religions? Even Islam didn’t survive. Where are all the things that made them African? None survived the trip and assimilation. Except Jazz / music, or so you and the music ’establishment’ would have us believe. I suspect you don’t have a real grasp of the nuts and bolts of slavery. Keeping groups / families together, was not a consideration. Impossible to maintain anything under those conditions. Every style of European music that was brought to this country, is still being played here and in EUROPE today. Easy to trace. What music is being played in Africa today? The only music, except primitive noise making, I have ever heard was brought to Africa from the West. Where is the music that gave rise to Jazz? Remember, in a lot of places in Africa, even today, music is frowned upon. Cheers Btw, when someone from one culture, defines and explains another group's culture, watch out!! |
"I find mixing jazz with African rhythms is as sound as mixing peanut butter and jelly; they just go together." Then may I suggest you purchase the new (Afro Cuban) Poncho Sanchez album. It was released just 2 .months ago and is his first album after a 7 year layoff. https://www.amazon.com/Tranes-Delight-Poncho-Sanchez/dp/B07VFPMJ9X/ref=tmm_msc_swatch_0?_encoding=UT...= A few tunes off the album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYOORQKXyzQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DB6Sk0WglQY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNwRKFJi8XU |
Tight modern Latvian Big Band If your into fun try Riga . I'm not so I go to Germany ,(joke). https://youtu.be/7BEgZLC05Vk |
If you really want to go to the African bush, you travel with Art Blakey. He even opens up with an African prayer, plus that he's got a real chief jammin with him by the name of "Chief Bey". This jam is as African as elephant horns, now you know that's authentic. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahBlJTNd8Xk&list=PLyHn3f7-9IUKa7Q8_Ja8H-WyX0brISR-U |
Everything anyone wants to know about "Thanksgiving" and a lot more; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thanksgiving_(United_States) |
I feel really guilty not showing you guys the best USA has . Thanksgiving seems like the right time . Even if this only a small fraction of "wazz up" . https://youtu.be/CWzZ-Y2D9tw?t=3 pjw, Maybe he wanted a better place . |
https://www.google.com/search?q=thanksgiving+jokes+for+adults&client=ms-android-hms-vf-hr&pr... Be reasonable...Happy Thanksgiving folks... |
Thanks mary_jo for the captioned Thanksgiving animated photo's. There are definitely some funny ones there. Here is a song for you sung by my favorite male jazz vocalist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9ZGKALMMuc |
Thank you pjw, right back at you, one of my favorite of this singer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9sRJ-eOHnc |
"Mary_Jo, I realize you are one Aficionado that I have neglected; I have an offering for you, I hope that you like it." O10, thank you. I once told you that you had similar taste to my Alex, so you can’t be (that) wrong when sending me a song. ;--) Since you are hard to please (your words), I’ll play safe and send you what we both like. One of my favorite (of her). Can’t feel this one more deeply than I already do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWmCbEbMmeU |
Fro, that Taj Mahal - Senor Blues is absolutely bluesy - jazzy great... For you: Ali Farka Touré & Taj Mahal-Roucky https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBt8MJ6wrQM This is where I love the sound of guitar... |
One more for the road... Paul Desmond Quartet - Theme From Black Orpheus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUNxV5dVXvk |
Thank you Mary-Jo, I even have her compassion for those who are less fortunate. One day I was talking to the smartest person I have ever met in my life, and I was going on and on, using the word "reality" a lot. He let me talk without interrupting, and after a silence, he responded; "Orpheus, there are many realities". I was speaking as though there was some kind of undeniable reality that everyone should see, but his statement made a light come on and see that there are almost as many realities as there are people. There are far too many bleak realities in this country; no need to go to a village in Africa. While I'm doing OK, there is an extreme excessive amount of "unnecessary" suffering in the richest country on the planet, and my "reality" will not allow me to forget that. I hope my "reality" doesn't ruin anyone else's "reality". Happy Thanksgiving! |
Just before I pressed "x", he looked to me and I thought I heard: What about this one? Lonnie Smith - It's Changed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lsZb93rY8E |
Right back at ya frogman! Happy Thanksgiving to all! Some "thanks" tunes - and funky too! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WasNE-62uLE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHXCXSGh_q0 |
orpheus10 There is far to much humanity suffering going on in the whole world and as you said right here in "the land of opportunity" I am just as aware of it as you are the only difference is you feel the need to talk about it an awful lot and I go there on rare occasions. Believe me it frustrates and angers me as much as you I just try not to think about it because I know it will never change. One thing for certain about living here in the U.S.A. You wont wake up to bombs being dropped around your house by an air raid or tanks rumbling down your street. There is no real ethnic cleansing and mass crimes against humanity - the recent surge in "mass killings" by mentally unstable individuals is not the same as genocidal ideology and nowhere near the scale of what happened in Bosnia and Rwanda in the 90's nor what still happens nearly every day all over Africa and the Middle East. Corporate America, Wall Street, and the Central Banking System control everything and use the middle class as pawns in their chess game. There are hundreds of thousands of homeless people and many of them will not have a great Thanksgiving. I could go on but it upsets me and that is the reason I rarely bring it up. I'm going to keep on paying my part as a cog in the machine, enjoy my Thanksgiving, then spend thousands of dollars for Christmas which I really shouldn't but I have my credit cards to use and pay interest to the bankers just like I paid them an extra 200k for interest on my mortgage. Life goes on...… |
Pjw, "At the Jazz Corner of the World, Vols. 1 & 2"; released in 1960: Lee Morgan, Wayne Shorter, Merrit on bass, Bobby Timmons on Piano. Track listing Volume 1 "Hipsippy Blues" (Hank Mobley) - 9:26 "Justice" (Thelonious Monk) - 7:37 "The Theme" (Traditional) - 2:18 "Close Your Eyes" (Bernice Petkere) - 10:58 "Just Coolin'" (Mobley) - 8:11 Volume 2 "Chicken an' Dumplins" (Ray Bryant) - 7:26 "M & M" (Mobley) - 6:41 "Hi-Fly" (Randy Weston) - 8:00 "The Theme" (Traditional) - 9:13 "Art's Revelation" (Gildo Mahones) - 8:13 Recorded at Birdland in New York City on April 15, 1959 Personnel Art Blakey – drums Lee Morgan - trumpet Hank Mobley - tenor saxophone Bobby Timmons – piano Jymie Merritt – bass Pee Wee Marquette - announcer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKukEVpK9Sc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mok1c0fPXno https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNTYQGNDyaw Those are my favorite cuts from that album. |
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No one can be more thankful on this day than me; my oncologist (doctor that administers chemotherapy) told me I was cancer free. When I gave him thanks, he replied, "Don't thank me, thank God", and he was serious. I believe that if God gives a person life after being on deaths doorsteps, maybe God intends on guiding that person. Back to the subject of jazz; I also believe that the "Jazz Messengers" produced the best groups and best music in the history of modern jazz. |
rok,Ayn Rand is in Row 6788 next to the man she wrote love letters to in 6789, Adolf Hitler . (TRUE) Building is VIP # 1 , top floor in Hell , about hundred yards down from Satan’s Penthouse . Both beds are set to the VIP only temp 6, 000 F and torture is only 60 times a minute . Proof positive it pays to do a good job for your boss ! Also that Satan is merciful , Hitler never replied to her many letters , he thought she was a nut job . Even a broken clock is right once a day . |