Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
***** Today has been a very strange day, maybe I'll wake up and discover it was just a dream.*****

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjB02aaAt9w

Cheers

After a very strange day, I went back to sleep and had dreams in which there was a lot of music about dreams. The strangest thing about that dream is the fact that I liked Miles music the best. But everybody I knew liked Miles at that time.

Here's some more Miles during that time period; that cat could blow, this is from that movie soundtrack.


                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OKQdp6iGUk


                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc4tT-55ZzI


                    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw5kBTFJCfs


But you had to see the movie for the music to fit; every note was so appropriate for this real hip movie. In this scene, that beautiful lady is searching in vain for her lover; every note expresses her bleeding heart.



Miles Davis has as many facets as a diamond; I sometime forget about some of them, this one has gotten lost in the shuffle, it's "Miles Davis & Gil Evans".

As you already know, music always brings back the memories that I associate with it. This music brings back memories of a beautiful young lady I met in the early 60's, she lived next door to Miles childhood home. It was a big house where Vernon, Miles brother, still lived. Miles was not born into poverty.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlVrh8t1DE4


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuzP92geknY


This is one of the albums we listened to. Miles is one of the few jazz artists whose music attracted ladies.
Miles and French Movies.   Miles was great.   In fact, take away the music, and not much is left.

Cheers
Well I saw him admit he was a pimp as he answered a female interviewer with a flippant "what’s wrong with that " . Thought he was evil the first time I saw him which has nothing , I guess, with him being a great musician .

Just one I dislike .

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Today’s Listen:

Clark Terry -- YES, THE BLUES
with ’Cleanhead’ Vinson on alto & vocals.

Another Great Trumpet player from St Louis. The notes require an electron microscope, and the booklet is written in Japanese. But the CD title says it all. That ’Cleanhead’ is a funny guy.

give the bass player a little love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK6bkcIne10

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGjHi3FlZd0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq_Zc4Uoy-c

Cheers

Schubert, beyond being a great musician, Miles Davis was not all the things he claimed to be or appeared to be. It's for sure he was not a pimp. A pimp is one cold blooded disgusting SOB. Miles accepted money from prostitutes and other women when he was on drugs and needed a fix. He didn't force the women to give him the money, they gave him the money willingly for his company; that's not the same as being a pimp.

He claimed to being a pimp because that boosted his stature in the street as a worldly person. The Miles Davis "Persona" was for a number of reasons which were personal to Miles.

The only people who knew the "Real" Miles Davis were the people he grew up with that he mentioned in the first chapter of his autobiography; not even the musicians who worked with him knew the "Real" Miles Davis; I also knew those people he grew up with although they were approximately 15 years older than me; to a person, they said Miles was the nicest kindest person you could ever meet.

From time to time he would invite them to his home for "old times sake". None of the musicians he worked with, or any one else was privy to those gathering. You can cross check this with the various musicians who were also his close friends; none of them were invited either.

In these gatherings, they reacted to one another the same as they did when they were growing up; they called one another by the same nick names. They may have even called Miles "Buckwheat". Regardless how much fun they had, there is no way Miles was going to allow anyone to observe these gatherings where he was no longer a celebrity, but a child having fun with his best friends, the same as he did when he was growing up.
Here's a hot horn section.  But please, disregard those suits!

For those who know the music, it gives more appreciation to the original to hear all five are needed to replicate the one.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cst9lV5PPg

If you think this is off topic, blame rok.  He got me off track. ;^)
pryso
Here’s a hot horn section. But please, disregard those suits! ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Cst9lV5PPg
That’s a brilliant arrangement. The music is timeless, so the suits don’t matter.
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Since when have jazz musicians been expected to be role models? Some of the very best jazz musicians were junkies.


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***** the USA and USMC combined can't put 100,000 infantry in the Field .*****

As warfare and tech advances, fewer and fewer infantry are required.

Fewer and fewer everything to be exact.

We have about 8000 M1 tanks.  Quite a few of those in storage.  We made 50,000 Sherman Tanks in WWll.  The reason, the M1 is indestructible, the armor has never been penetrated, and the main gun does not miss unless the crew makes a  mistake.

One M1 was disabled in Iraq when the track was hit.  A British tank, which has similar armor to ours, took 48 hits in Iraq after it track was disabled.  The crew was not harmed.

The F15 has never suffered a combat loss.

Don't need a lot of stuff these days.   Just a lot of brains.

Cheers
Frogman , the one I saw was with a white woman , he said the same thing  but much harsher to her .  In yours the drugs were doing the talking .
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It was in the Summer of 69 that I was attending a company school in Chicago with other employees from all over the country. I hooked up with three other guys who were from from Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, and Bed Sty New York; he was the most memorable with his Dashiki and sandals; he was also an experts on "Bongs", but he couldn't drive a car. Never heard of a grown man who couldn't drive a car. That meant he couldn't drive when we rented a car.

Once we heard that Miles Davis, Nina Simone, and Herbie Mann were going to be in town on the same bill, we decided to buy tickets. Cincinnati purchased the tickets, and I knew they were too reasonable.

 When we got to the auditorium, I discovered why; I have never been so high up on the inside of a building in my life. Fortunately we had good luck, there was a real bad storm that day, and people who bought tickets at ground level close to the stage, didn't show up; so we decided to go down and put those empty seats to good use.

Miles was first; I already described him, Herbie Mann was second; He came out in a very light, almost white, tan suit, and shiny light brown boots, brown shirt with a big collar that he wore outside of his coat. I admired his dress so much that I copied it for myself later on.

Not only was Herbie well dressed, but it was a toss up between him and Nina as to who stole the show.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4DiUhro1WU



Herbie was on fire that day;



              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7gdstNGYEs



It was a very good day.


       



Alex, that's my favorite tune by Frank, plus that, he stated my philosophy in regard to a song.
Today's Listen:

Herbie Hancock  --  GERSHWIN'S WORLD
with a cast of everyone.   If you're looking for music to improvise over, Gershwin's music is a great place to start.

Cast includes the ones listed here plus, James Carter, Chick Corea, Kenny Garrett, Orpheus chamber Orchestra and others.

Stevie Wonder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRUFC4NN6js  
Kathleen Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq-ak_-6gX8   
Joni Mitchell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r83bUyTFH0U  
Wayne Shorter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C-jUAQJzWo  

Don't have it?   And you call yourself an Aficionado.

Nice Booklet and notes.   A lot of talk about Ravel.

Cheers

rok

I have Hancock's Gershwin's World (Verve label) and his other 2 albums on the Verve label 1998 -2007 which are "Directions In Music - Live at Massy Hall" (2003) and "River - The Joanie Letters" (2007).


All 3 are good albums but my favorite of the 3 is "Live at Massy Hall" which features Michael Brecker, Roy Hargrove, John Patitucci, and Brian Blade.


I did, however, go to the "Joanie Letters" tour date at Carnegie Hall in 2008 which featured Chris Potter on sax (replacing Wayne Shorter who played on the studio recording), Lionel Loueke on guitar, Dave Holland on bass, and Vinny Colaiuta  drums. There were guest vocalists as well.


Directions in Music Live at Massy Hall full album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fb9z8LCNvHo&list=OLAK5uy_mXLcaZniSyJSzhdHDex6wAx0xeDsPMxuc

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This is for rok only on a subject I know is important to him by the greatest
soldier of our time .https://youtu.be/PBgF-2HK8H0?t=4
I have always heard that the U.S. Air Force, and esp the Air Force Academy are 'born again' organizations.  Which I think is a good thing.   Colorado Springs being the perfect place for that.

Of course Nuclear war is unthinkable.   That's why Nuclear Weapons are effective.   They keep the peace.   The motto of the Strategic Air Command was, 'Peace is Our Profession'.   Always brought a smile to my face, but, they were correct.

All wars start after a series of calculations by opposing forces / countries.   In the Nuclear age, no matter what  info you put in the war game computer, the end result is the same.   Everything is destroyed and Everybody dies.

Take away the Nukes, and the computer might say, WE WIN!!
And, there we go.

Also, we can never know how many wars Nuclear weapons have prevented.

Very informative clip.

Cheers
"This is for rok only on a subject I know is important to him by the greatest
soldier of our time"

 Schubert,

Just curious why, in your opinion, is he the greatest soldier of our time?  Is he a jazz aficionado?
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The Charlie Parker JATP 1949 disc was in the mail box when I got home yesterday. This is the one with Parker and Lester Young playing together. I listened to it last night and every song is good.

The personnel:
Charlie Parker, Lester Young, Flip Phillips, Roy Eldridge, Buddy Rich, Ray Brown, Tommy Turk, Hank Jones, and Ella Fitzgerald.

The tunes:
The Opener 12:47, Lester Leaps In 12:14, Embraceable You 10:33, The Closer 10:57, Ow! (introduction of Ella Fitzgerald) .48, Flying Home 5:31, How High The Moon 6:34, Perdido 8:34.

Total playing time is 67:48 

I bought the disc on Discogs for $8.00 including shipping. One of the best disc purchases pricewise and musical wise I ever made!


Embraceable You:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9cZF2dOZPM

How High The Moon (featuring Ela Fitzgerald)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_3zFVg-S8w



Pjw, beside being a true collectors item musically, that album is also historically important; it's probably the only album in existence with all those jazz stars on a single album, and in fine form.

You get the aficionado award for good taste.

I would like to make a correction to my recent recollection; it was in the Summer of 68, not 69. That meant this was the kind of music that appears on "Bitches Brew" before that album had even been recorded. This gave the music an even more WTF component.
Schubert,

I listened to General Butler's commentary in full yesterday and my question on if he was a jazz aficionado was an attempt at putting some joy on an otherwise very real and apocalyptic subject. The subject has been talked about ad nauseum from 1946 onwards by thousands of important men and women in military and political spheres. Butlers short commentary regarding his thoughts on the subject was short and correct on all points and his last say was certainly sobering to say the least.

I am sure you are aware that after the destruction of Nazi Germany we invited many of their top generals to the U.S.A. to hear their perspectives on the war they just lost and on future world conflicts. We greatly admired their doctrine of combined arms war of maneuver using an armored fist supported by airpower at the "Schwerpunkt" and a term called "Auftragstaktiks"(giving more authority to lower ranking officers to exploit advantageous situations in real time as they presented themselves on the battlefield without going through a long chain of command) which the German command structure was way ahead of anyone at the time. They lost because they were arrogant and bit off more then they could chew.


The reason we were so interested in debriefing them was because the military here, even though victorious, knew that it took 3 world powers and a lopsided amount of endless war resources to defeat them and so were interested in their conventional warfare tactical and operational doctrines. So even in the period 1946 - 1955, as we were developing and testing nuclear weapons, we were already thinking that nuclear weapons were not the solution and were interested in advancing our conventional war doctrines. The only one who thought otherwise at the time was General Douglas MacArthur.


General Norman Schwarzkopf read many German Panzer Commanders books (memoirs) before the Kuwait war and followed their doctrines. 

pjw, that “Embraceable You” is one the best things posted here. Gorgeous playing from all. What a nice feel that performance has!  Biggest surprise was Tommy Turk with that beautiful solo. Amazing Prez. All, except one, the tail end of an era and then ....Bird, incredible, bad reed and all. Quite a history lesson. Thanks for the clip!
Schubert, Indian giver! 😊.  Finally had some time this morning and was going to listen and comment to what promised to be an interesting clip.  Please post it again.  
I just realized that my attempt at humor directed at Schubert might be misconstrued as somehow insensitive or racist. I suppose I could delete it, but I think that the more adult thing to do is to stress that there was no malice intended and let everyone be big boys and girls. Apology to anyone offended.

This is further expansion on the concert in 1968 where Miles, Herbie Mann, and Nina Simone were on the same bill. While we might be Miles fans, Nina Simone was the star that day, and she got the biggest reception.

This was in the Summer of 68. Dr. Martin Luther King was assassinated on April 4, 1968 in Memphis Tennessee. This concert occurred about three months after that; you know Nina was on fire.

"Nuff Said" is an album by Ms. Simone, that was recorded three days after Dr. MLK was assassinated. Naturally, this is what she performed at that concert.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI4T_dIsqD0&list=PLX-Rp84RbxLBkQEWiQj0MiLY47A096lIC



              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UQhlBL5WIU


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npIPKP0zreI

"It was the best of times and it was the worst of times". It was the best of times for us, four guys in their twenties roaming the exciting streets and neighborhoods of Chicago in the Summer of 68.



  https://www.google.com/search?q=chicago+in+1968&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwjkiOywzIDmAhXDJ6wKHT51C_...
Today's Listen:

Coleman Hawkins  --  DESAFINADO
Hawkins with guys I never heard of.  During the Bossa Nova craze.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Spp2Pe9Whik   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOlPsz_jrpQ  

it's not what, but how you play.  Jelly Roll was right.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyhl-K5_Rvk  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FX_60garHY  

Cheers
Ok, I will frogman . I deleted it because he grew to be perhaps the greatest
general intellect ever born in the USA which gave him many enemies .
If you said it on a reservation it might not go over well but no one on here
knows you to be nothing but a gentleman in general . Keep in mind this is before the Cambridge neural network explosions . He has some after that that cover the world .

https://youtu.be/hdUbIlwHRkY
I once stopped a class of about 30 where I was arguing that your language has a lot to do with your music and everyone else disagreed with one sentence . " Will every one here who is a fan of Chinese Opera please raise your hand’ . (I was a student )