Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10
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I don’t know much (no Joke) but Mingus strikes me as the most creative
jazz man ..
https://youtu.be/7W3lwmIf6m4?t=4

If this was written yesterday it would be stone-cold current .
Better when you can see. Loud!


She just walked to Mongo and said, "give me that song" !!!! as she snatched it from his hands.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp4YKvx37w8

This trumpet player has seen too many movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSFdm82X70Q

Cheers



Schubert, you're right, Mingus is the most creative; I'm the chief Aficionado, I out rank Rok, and we all know how that works.
Good movies are rare to find these days. I’ve just watched one. Coen brothers.

Inside Llewyn Davis

Roland Turner: "What’d you say you played?"
Llewyn Davis: "Folk"
Roland Turner: "Folk? I thought you said you was a musician..."
What's going on Pjw, you still eating turkey?

An hour ago, wanted to write something similar to pjw. 
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I heard someone call out on a record; Fat girl! Fat girl! and I realized they were speaking of Theodore Navarro. Not even a fat girl would want to be called "Fat Girl"; much less a man who was overweight with a high squeaky voice.

He tolerated it, but he didn't like it. According to Mingus, he pulled a knife on a fellow musician for calling him "Fat Girl". I believe that contributed to him becoming a heroin addict. People can be thoughtless and cruel.

I like this;


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbsxDOgVzFI


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qey0gY1__xo
Op, nice music, Fats Navarro.
 Have nothing of him (admit)  will look into it
Also, more than once I posted few Randy Weston's albums. Shame on us both than.
https://youtu.be/61devPGuSgU
By the way, was on his concert (R.W) twenty years ago, in my hometown

Acman, liked that Dollar Brand trio posts, also will try to find that album, thanks.

As for Christmas atmosphere and winter, last couple of years I have swam in the sea all the way until that date but last year I have continued to do it all year along, have not skipped any month. (only in swimming shorts, but on sunny weather...as there is always few days like that)

So, why nnot some Bossa Nova, still?
Rok, you have mentioned Hawk's album, where he plays with Burrell.
Here are few others, again some with Burrell

Charlie Rouse
https://youtu.be/_qsOHc34psE

Dave Pike
https://youtu.be/vCKinuVfvaQ

Zoot Sims
 https://youtu.be/67i_AhoFZRw

Cannonball Aderley
https://youtu.be/mQjtXWh-qSM

Paul Desmond
https://youtu.be/WI7h6t3zUeI

Duke Ellington
https://youtu.be/BxyAiSA5n-8




Today’s Listen:

Louis Armstrong -- SATCH PLAYS FATS ( Fats Waller)

One of the great titles in Jazz recordings. The CD I have can only be played on SACD players. No hybrid.

Excerpts from the Excellent Notes:
Fats father was a reverend at Abyssinian Baptist Church in Harlem. He earned the name of ’Fats’ because he was 280 and under 6 ft tall. Often ate half a dozen pork chops at breakfast. Kept a couple of bottles of Gin on the piano as he played.

Was very well versed in the classics. Studied with Leopold Godowsky and Karl Bohm. Fats considered Bach the greatest man who ever lived, along with Lincoln and FDR.

He also gave Count Basie his first road gig. Died (1943) of a Heart outside Kansas City while traveling on the Santa Fe Chief.

Genius does apply here. Seminal figure in Jazz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d27tE0HVA3w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIXEh9gKfXQ&list=OLAK5uy_l9rgl7ZZXIbSJ9pE6xB0JAwhp0kIpQqVo&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyg8aB9qtr8&list=OLAK5uy_l9rgl7ZZXIbSJ9pE6xB0JAwhp0kIpQqVo&index=10

Cheers
Hair:

Those long hairs sure liked to wear the military stuff.   I see one with a fatigue shirt with the 1st Cav patch.

Great music, songs and tunes, but to me it represented anarchy.   When I was young, I was more into Motown.   Love not politics.

Cheers

Rok, back then, I led a double life; by day I was with the suited crowd that looked out from tall buildings at any protest with disdain, and by night I was getting high with the protesters.

"Hippies" anarchy; you are an alarmist. I had two major goals; get high, and get to work on time, because if I didn't get to work, I couldn't get high. While I had beliefs, I didn't get bent out of shape about them.

Today, these times are "infinitely" worse than those times. Then, there were neighborhoods to be avoided, now there are entire cities to be avoided; too many to list.

Anybody who believes the unemployment figures believes in Santa Claus; there are far too many people suffering who played no part in the reason for their suffering; they were born in the wrong place at the wrong time. A number of places could be the wrong place, now is the wrong time. Some of those places are open air insane asylums.

The same words at one time can mean something entirely different in a different time. "Getting high" today implies hard drugs, not smoking or drinking. That thought (hard drugs) never entered my mind.
The way I see it. Getting high. I suppose you get to feel wiser, calmer, more intuitive, more optimistic, fearless, more focused, etc, take your pick. But once you are off the high mode, I guess you become more down than usual. So, to avoid being down, you need to get high again and high again. Than again, again until your brain and heart can take it. I am sure everything else gets slowly affected in the process. Vital parts at least. Eventually you do get numb. You feel the unbearable need for huge impulse in probably every part of your life. Only strong things can wake you up from your dullness. But even powerful impulse cannot last long. You get easily tired. Bored. Uninterested. Right substance that will keep you continuously satisfied, healthy and present in the every day’s life does not exist anymore. Your own existence becomes meaningless. Nothing seems to make sense. You feel lost and see death as the possible way out. But you do not mind it either, since being alive but dead inside anyway.

A wise man once said. If you wanna become a good musician, you have to sell your soul to the devil. Another one, obviously also wise said: The best stuff was made out of despair. The third wise man once said nothing. The wisest one.

Not necessarily in this order and not necessarily connected with the theme:

Ella - When I get low I get high
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev69AoBWaGw

Julie London - Why don’t you do right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2f40eQcYXk

Billie - Easy Living
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX7TA3ezjHc

Julie - Cry me a river
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkD_kYkRk3c
p.s.
Just to make sure. O-10. I understood it properly. Not to worry about it. Above written is not pointed to you.
"He also gave Count Basie his first road gig."

Watched documentary about Count Basie few days ago. Remarkable man and band leader. 

https://thebasie.org/countbasiebio/

From the same article:
"It’s believed that his experience in these roles ultimately lead to Basie’s reputation as a bandleader who had no issues with younger musicians taking up the spotlight."


Thank you Mary-Jo; that's what I like about this thread, we learn something new and meaningful almost every day.
***** Today, these times are "infinitely" worse than those times.*****

'These' times are a direct result of 'those' times.   Some folks can afford to get high, other have to rob and steal or turn to welfare fraud to get high.   A huge difference.   

All that crack, there is / was, a price to pay, and the then unborn are now paying it.   Getting 'high', is / was, not as innocent as you paint it.

Cheers



Rok, in those days, everybody who wanted a job had a job, the only difference being that some jobs paid more than others.

There are times when I don't have a clue as to what you're talking about, but I've noticed there is always something in regard to welfare in it.

"Welfare" is what makes southern whites feel superior, when in fact they are the major beneficiaries of welfare.

Rok, I've read Eudora Welty, Flannery O'Conner, and William Faulkner, plus that, I've spent time in Texas, Mississippi and Georgia; not to mention that Missouri is in reality "the south"; consequently, no body knows southern "code talk" better than me. Nobody knows the desperate need for white lower middle class southerners to feel superior to Black people, and that's why you always mention "Welfare" or "Food stamps".
I am quite sure there are more white people on welfare than are black people.

I am quite sure white folks use drugs as much as black folks do.  Maybe more so.

Meth is creating a disaster is white rural America.

Do these facts make you feel better?   I didn't think so.

Cheers

rok2 ids ,

My take on Bell is he a fantastic player who is about himself more the  the music .
Sort of like a musical Ayn Rand but not profoundly evil and insane like her .
Bad analogy really, as I’m sure Bell did not take meth every day for 20 years+ or thinks Hitler was the greatest man who ever lived .
***** Sort of like a musical Ayn Rand*****

Speaking of Incredulous!!   Can't quite see Ayn, say, on Tenor Sax.

FYI, a lot of people in Europe and America thought Hitler was great, at least prior to the war and the genocide.

Cheers
I am aware of history .

O-10 , no doubt you know the current favorite substitute for the N- word is thug .
At certain political rallies the heard cheers 3 times as loud for that as any other word or phrase .


"Pride is a sense of worth derived from something not a part of us " Confucius .

Hate to break the magic but the music is all about hard work at the first place. After you master the work you can call it magic or pjw’s turkey. The same, since it depends on your feeling (needed) preference. Am I right, fro? Or...?

Rok, it's happening; while some people are as they were 100 years ago, and they make headlines; millions of others are becoming "colorless"; that's because we all bleed red blood. We all need a roof over our heads, hot and cold running water, a refrigerator and some food to go in it.

"Nobody" wants welfare; no one can compare welfare to a good job; maybe even one that's not so good. There is nothing more fundamental than a "Job". FDR understood that, why can't any of these other presidents understand that?
As for the pjw, he rarely skips the thread, therefore is surely kidnapped and tortured with the wrong music. Some of us will soon get the message from the kidnapers, requesting funds in the shape of the most rare and precious jazz album. Start collecting. Important: pjw, if you are still here but unable to talk, click twice with the mouse.
0-10 , two reasons .
1.No one else was ever President when they was a real chance the
workers would become Communist .
2. No one else in American history was ever married to a women of the caliber of Elanor Roosevelt , one of THE greatest persons ever born
on American soil !      She thought , He talked .
That is correct, mary_jo.

I rarely disagree with Schubert about anything having to do with Classical music and perhaps I am putting too fine a point on this.  “Fantastic” is not an adjective that ever comes to mind whenever I hear Joshua Bell.  I have heard him live many times; mostly while part of the orchestra accompanying him.  Perhaps this is a different way of saying that “he is about himself more than the music” and I certainly agree with that assessment, but I have always found his playing uninspired.  By the standards of the great players from the past and the best of today his playing, even on technical grounds, can be a little rough.  A lot of chops, knows how to “work the audience” with a lot of physicality; but, for me.....a little like the Classical equivalent of Hiromi.  Not my cup of tea.
Today's Listen:

Louis Armstrong  --  LOUIS ARMSTRONG PLAYS W.C, HANDY

Another SACD only CD.   Seems to be a companion to Snatch Plays Fats.  

Handy is known as the Father of The Blues.  hmmmmm.  I think that title is more because he published blues songs.   Simple music, but Pops makes anything sound special.

Notes:
The Handy innovation which had the most impact on popular music was the introduction of the Negro folk singer's frequent use of the flatten third (and, though less often, the flatted seventh).   Identified by by Jazz fans and commercial songwriters alike as"blue notes" . 
Frogman, HELP!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-ku1KxQwJc  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3s-u9qWW8&list=RDpx3s-u9qWW8&index=1   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPEVmBOfiC8

I remember Crump,  Boss of the  Political Machine in Memphis.

Cheers



Schubert, you're the first person I've heard to mention "Eleanor Roosevelt". I know this is hard to believe, but I've been thinking about her for some time, reason being; current "First Ladies" seem like housewives compared to her, she was the greatest.