Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
orpheus10

I will right now ... 😊

@mahgister 

Check out Billy Harper's quintet recordings with trumpeter Eddie Henderson, such as the three "Live in the Far East" releases and the studio releases "Soul of an Angel" and "Destiny is Yours". Fine Spiritual Jazz. 

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@curiousjim 

You're welcome!

Stanley Cowell is excellent.

@mahgister 

The sax, trumpet, piano, bass and drums is probably my favorite. 

Check out Billy Harper's quintet recordings with trumpeter Eddie Henderson, such as the three "Live in the Far East" releases and the studio releases "Soul of an Angel" and "Destiny is Yours". Fine Spiritual Jazz. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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@mahgister 

I will be listening to your suggestion next as I don’t believe I have heard the album before.

And speaking of Stanley Cowell,  I’m enjoying his album No Illusions now.

i go on listening to my Sipiagin collection...Here he play with a german saxophonist leader...

This one album is very good to my taste... On my new improved 4 inches self powered speakers in their acoustic corner in my basement and celestial in my K340 headphone...😊 My audiophile heaven is in a basement corner... 😁

I like hammond organ very much as in this album ...

Jazz at his best for me:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9BkxUeMqZQ

 

I go on also with Wayne Shorter but for now i cannot recommend one in particular...

I like when sax and trumpet are in duos in some Shorter albums ...

@curiousjim 

Well, OK  -- if you insist!  Sticking to the Ralph Moore theme, here's a live JJ Johnson date with a killer group of sidemen: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoYmdoOoOto

JJ Johnson: Trombone

Ralph Moore: Sax

Victor Lewis: Drums

Bass: Rufus Reid

Piano: Stanley Cowell 

 

@stuartk 

Lol,

Bombard away. You have given me hours of enjoyment. Oh, I haven’t received the second book yet, but @900 pages it should be a snap to read.😁

@curiousjim

Haven’t heard that one.

BTW, another excellent record featuring Ralph Moore is Kenny Barron’s "Other Places":

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kenny+barron+other+places

I will attempt to restrain myself from bombarding you with further suggestions, as the Penguin has ( I presume) already provided you with a ton of options! ;o )

 

 

@designsfx 

I’m about half way through Conception Of Thought and I am enjoying it very much.

Thanks for the suggestion.  Hearing new to me music, keeps it all fresh.

@stuartk 

Thanks to the Penguin, yes I am. He’s on my ever growing list.  So far, the only album I’ve listened to is Ends And Means, but I will definitely be going back for more.

@curiousjim My pleasure! Thanks also to Korry Cook at KSYM radio for playing the record. Cook is a very good drummer, by the way.

@curiousjim 

Have you listened to Thodoris Kotsifas “Conception Of Thought”? It’s available on Qobuz- you may like it.

@ho249 

After seeing your post, I’ve been listening to Ralph Moore this evening.  For someone neither one of us has ever heard of,  he has a bunch of really good recordings online. Tonight I listened to Three Score, Round Trip and Oscar Peterson meets Roy Hargrove and Ralph Moore.  

Thanks for the tip!

@rok2id 

So Blue Note started in 1939 and Simmons first record came out in 1966.  Maybe times were tough at Blue Note. Maybe Simmons felt wronged and that was his way trying to get even. But with man’s inhumanity to man, nothing would surprise me.

And I doubt they’d want to get cash machines like Mingus messed up.

The whole thing sounds like a tale told by someone trying to explain why their career never went anywhere.

Or Alfred Lion could have been "feeling him out" to see if he snatched up the dope,  and then agreed to any contract that Lion proposed in cash....

 

@stuartk 

Anyone here ever read "Straight Life" (was there ever a more ironic title?) by Art Pepper? 

 

Yes I read Straight Life by Art and Lauri Pepper and its a great book.

@curiousjim

I know, as does everyone else, about the Heroin problem at that time.  I just don't think one of the founders of Blue Note would pay artists in drugs.  That's a felony.  Why risk all he had built, by being in effect, a drug pusher.  You pay them in dollars and let them find a 'source'.

The whole thing sounds like a tale told by someone trying to explain why their career never went anywhere.

I can just see some record company exe throwing a few 'bags' in front of Miles or Mingus as 'payment'.

 

Cheers

@pjw81563 

listening to Sonny Stitt,  Blows The Blues.  In my humble opinion, it’s wonderful!

@pjw81563 

It's very disappointing, to put it mildly, to learn about A. Lion's abhorrent behavior. 

Anyone here ever read "Straight Life" (was there ever a more ironic title?) by Art Pepper? 

 

 

@curiousjim 

thanks go the link. A friend gave me a copy.

It’s good to have friends.😁

👍

 

 

 

@curiousjim   Sonny Stitt might not be in my top five, but he’s probably in my top twenty. 😁

Stitt is definitely in my top 20 as well!

A great Sonny Stitt record with an even greater title

Sonny Stitt - Just In Case You Forgot How Bad He Really Was (1981) [Complete CD] - YouTube

Heard this track on the car radio today, my good fortune:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcdOmnHverk

Had never heard of tenor saxophonist Ralph Moore prior to today. Looking forward to playing his recordings.

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Just listened to Sonny Stitt And The New Yorkers.   Sonny Stitt might not be in my top five, but he’s probably in my top twenty. 😁

Blue Note paying artists in Heroin????   My BS alarm is beginning to vibrate.

I have no problem believing that Lion could be guilty of this. He was, after all a record producer in the 30s through the end of the 60s and heroin was used by a lot of jazz artists, many of whom made little to no money and were "strung out". 

The list is so long that posting the names of the jazz artists that used dope during these 4 decades might take up a whole page on this thread.....

 

 

Blue Note paying artists in Heroin????   My BS alarm is beginning to vibrate.

 

Cheers

Back to the music...

Re: Sonny Simmons (the artist that Alfred Lion tried to sign using heroin)

This was the first I have heard of him because Sonny Rollins liked his playing. Rollins and Simmons would go over to saxophonist Clifford Jordans house for hours long jam sessions and Rollins liked Simmons because of his improvisational talent. 

Naturally I checked Spotify and found Simmons' first 3 albums and made a Sonny Simmons Playlist. His debut album as a leader is called Staying on the Watch - Wikipedia

Sonny Simmons - Staying On The Watch (1966) - YouTube

It goes without saying that Alfred Lion, a man I had respected as one of the greats of bringing American Jazz to millions of listeners, was just another business man trying to take advantage of artists (yes I know most all recording companies and their owners/employees are guilty of this).

For some reason I always thought of Alfred Lion and Francis Wolff as a duo that had integrity but now I know otherwise....

As all of you know I have been reading the new Sonny Rollins biography. I just started Chapter 25 titled Sonny Meets Hawk. On page 402 (yes I am a slow reader) I read something that really disturbed me.

I have been wanting to share so much of this book here on JFA while reading but decided not to because it would spoil the experience for any others who want to read it.

However, I just wanted to share a small paragraph on page 402 and after reading it you will see why I am so upset over it. Here it is:

At this time, Alfred Lion of Blue Note offered Sonny Simmons a contract, but he turned it down after "I sat down in a chair in his office and he threw four bags of ’Dirty Harry’ on his desk (heroin)" 91

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Lester Koenig, who produced The Cry, connected Simmons with Alfred Lion at Blue Note. Simmons, interview with the author. “That’s what he was payin’ the brothers, man. He wouldn’t pay ’em no money, ’cause they was all stretched out. It was sad. Broke my heart. I said, ‘No, man.’ I said, ‘I don’t use.’ He couldn’t believe me. He got pissed off. ‘You should take it and I’ll record ya.’ I said, ‘No, man. I don’t use.’ And Francis Wolff heard my voice raised up at Alfred’s, ’cause it pissed me off. I said, ‘Man, I want money. I don’t want no dope.’ ” Simmons “left in a big huff—big cloud of fire and brimstone was over the top of my head. And I never did go back no more.” Lester Koenig convinced Lion and Wolff to pay Simmons an advance in hard currency rather than drugs, but to Simmons, the deal was tainted, and he turned it down.

Some documentary are EARS opener about a giant...

Another proof if necessary that music is less about our tastes than about discovery...

Thanks to frogman who spoke about him here long ago...

Rahsaan Roland Kirk

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URS-P9Zt8IU

 

Kirk awake the same amazement in me than Sun Ra ...

Incredible power going way over music entertainment... More like real magician here to transform the world......

His coming back to playing after a stroke which  let him half paralysed remind me of the miraculous coming back of Pat Martino...

It is also frogman who let me behind Martino guitar magic works ..

One of my best loved Jazz album ever is from Martino...I listen it hundred times... 😊

 

@pjw81563

I for one like the way they sound and you can get a ton of RVG remasters from a ton of musicians.

Well; many on CD are no longer in print, so grab ’em up while you can!

Still, they’re easier to find in many cases than the Ron McMaster versions. I  personally wouldn’t avoid buying any of the RVG’s because of sound, but then, my system is somewhat on the warm side. 

@curiousjim

Stitt was quite prolific; here’s another one I like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GuEV0iq9g3E

 

A lot of great albums didn't make it to digital. Streaming is worse. Whole  catalogs are missing on great players. 

Paul, here is another album featuring Carmell Jones...the ’others’  palying on it are not bad either...

Curtis Amy (Dupree Bolton played on his Katanga record) and Frank Butler ’Groovin Blue’

https://youtu.be/mARr-DylXKA?feature=shared

As for RVG remasters, I prefer to buy albums before that second remastering, not so because of higher freq, but more because of the gain level...previous BN remasters, usually done by Rob McMaster (nomen est omen?), are somewhat quieter and as a result more articulate, in a lack of better words, pardon my english

@acman3  You are of course welcome, I guess you posted much more (for me) unknown music...if only you would write their names under or above the links,ha....

@acman3 

I to have never heard of Depree Bolton.  I listened to a couple of cuts on YouTube and will stream some more in the morning after my wife is off to work.

Thanks!