Jazz for aficionados


Jazz for aficionados

I'm going to review records in my collection, and you'll be able to decide if they're worthy of your collection. These records are what I consider "must haves" for any jazz aficionado, and would be found in their collections. I wont review any record that's not on CD, nor will I review any record if the CD is markedly inferior. Fortunately, I only found 1 case where the CD was markedly inferior to the record.

Our first album is "Moanin" by Art Blakey and The Jazz Messengers. We have Lee Morgan , trumpet; Benney Golson, tenor sax; Bobby Timmons, piano; Jymie merrit, bass; Art Blakey, drums.

The title tune "Moanin" is by Bobby Timmons, it conveys the emotion of the title like no other tune I've ever heard, even better than any words could ever convey. This music pictures a person whose down to his last nickel, and all he can do is "moan".

"Along Came Betty" is a tune by Benny Golson, it reminds me of a Betty I once knew. She was gorgeous with a jazzy personality, and she moved smooth and easy, just like this tune. Somebody find me a time machine! Maybe you knew a Betty.

While the rest of the music is just fine, those are my favorite tunes. Why don't you share your, "must have" jazz albums with us.

Enjoy the music.
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You are more purist than some jazz musician going back to Africa to study drum tradition and trying to understand when ANY music "roll" or not...

i dont remember his name...

A music "roll" when his tempo is not external to the melody but emerge and "roll" inside it not with it or beside it...

Then "non sense" is not the right qualitative word for my remark and my post...

Anyway it is not "pure" jazz...

Happy Easter

 

but somewhere it is in the tree of jazz roots nonsense

I discovered immediately listening his music he was a genius but listening the above interview (which duration is around 1h37 m. not the 3 hours indicated) with him let no DOUBTS about his experience, musical or spiritual and intelligence and humility which is mind blowing....

It is one of the best musician interview i ever listen to because of his deep understanding of music...

 

I recommend it too.... One of his best set...

Paolo Fresu,  The Blue Note Albums.

Wow! thanks...

I did not have anything of him...

Great musician at first minutes of listening...

Gene Ammons,   Boss Tenor.   

I am flabbergasted by Gene Ammons singing...

I need to go in search mode...

Jan Johannsson the genius jazz pianist is in the Penguin...

Butman is perhaps a bit  too much contemporary to be there...

 

Bela fleck is very great  master of his instrument also.... The jam give us an idea  of the way  Martino  is in command but with a humility that make him play WITH the others even if he lead...

Bingo!

It seems interesting and i like this piece a lot ...

Thanks my friend ...

I will investigate...

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@mahgister , you might like this.

https://youtu.be/h9lQUJSCo2E?si=5tTeMPOu3GtEuV-J

It seems not to be a so good thing to be a spaniard pianist after Bill Evans and Oscar Peterson...

In my opinion he is not so much far from them at all ...Even not far behind Keith Jarrett and he does not makes noise at all ... 😊

Why his name is such rarely mentioned ?

Only frogman knows for sure not me...

I had to listen 34 more albums i think anyway...

😁

Unknown true really good Jazz albums are not so rare but not so common also...

After Bill Charlap trios, and Eddie Higgins trios, all really, really good...

A bit more creative is the Renee Rosnes Trios, so good, that i can found excuses for the silence around the 2 underestimated trios i just speak about, but this one is really out of the ordinary...No excuse for not recognizing  it or speaking about it.....

Great pianists all three.... But Renee is my first choice....She is the wife of Bill Charlap.... Too late guys!
I cannot believe that this vibraphonist of truly great genius was not more known...His name is Walt Dickerson and Sun Ra who was a great discoverer of musical genius play the second fiddle on piano with him on 2 cd...This is one, look for the other also...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqrVpT_Kl9E

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtBtuvq581U

I listen to the marvellous cd of Irene Kral : " where is love ? "

It is a pure gem....

Very few can sing with this natural and simple musicality in each words....


If you can hear and "see" the rainbow passing with each inflexion of his voice when she sing some syllable, your audio system is good... If not.... Its too bad.... :)
I listen many cd files with Bobo Stenson... Jazz of the high order creative musicality without much use of formulas....

Probably my favorite Jazz musician, because no one is more economical, no one is more sentimentally involved in the song, no one is more humble with his instrument because Chet forgot always himself in the music he play...We even forgot that this is a trumpet, subsist only a passing cloud in front of a stay forever sun, like a pure melody appearing in front of the heart....

He is the greatest trumpet player, not because of what he do or could do with the trumpet , but because of what he dont do ever and never will do...He most of the times slowly articulated each part of a melody like spoken words...

Playing slowly the trumpet notes like he did and making each one of them expressive in his own way is very difficult...More difficult than playing virtuoso and speed with high notes...

I am not a trumpet player... You could ask me how can i know what is the more difficult way to play at the trumpet?

I will answer easily... Look for any trumpeter and compare him with Chet...No one is able to slowly "spoke" with the trumpet at the expressive mastery level of Chet... Go now and look for virtuosos who play full speed ... There is plenty of them and i like them all because i like trumpet... But i love Chet...

There is some few others i love, but they have all their own "aural spectral expressive sound ", because i like that, none "spoke" with the trumpet though...

Music comes from the heart and nothing can destroy the heart, nor the drugs, nor the lost of his teeth...He learn to play anew at the same level... No other trumpetist will ever be able to do that i think...He played for the music ONLY never for the drug he need and pay for....For sure he was gravely ill all his life by drug ....But miraculously music never disapeared in meaningless concerts to pay for drug...I own more than one hundred of his best albums then i know him....

He was a withered and consumed angel....

 

 

For the same reason i love Bill Evans... They are twins...

Chet - the first 3 minutes are sublime.

I am in my third albums of Tete Monteliu...

I am amazed that this fine jazz pianist was so underservedly not more well known...

I had many more albums in sight ...

 

 
 

mal desservi

 

Wow! i did not know Barry Harris thanks frogman...

I wish you the best year to come ever and to all our friends...

Someone able to put out there dozens of cd at the same level of musicality for the heart is truly not only a good musician but a genius...The accomplice guitarist is also near genius to me, and the bassist is at least perfect....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IfmEmZQ5wk
  1. First time I’ve ever heard "... is at least perfect." Gotta love it. Chet’s playing is at least perfect, as always.
For me Chet is not perfect but higher than perfection: in a controlled living imperfection.... That is true genius....You can learn to play perfect with practise but you cannot learn genius because there is no formula you are born with it or not...

For example i admire Kenneth Wheeler, his trumpet playing is perfect.... But it is a notch under controlled living imperfection....Then he is not affecting the living heart so much that Chet can....

« Imperfection is the peak»- Poet René Char
My remark was not for correcting your post but only to express my perception...

And perfection is not mechanical....

Listen the difference between Kenneth Wheeler  that is a great artist and not mechanical at all producing   for example one of the best jazz album of the decade ; " a widow at the window".... Nothing mechanical in this perfection...

But if you listen Chet after that you will be confronted to the MYSTERY of the controlled living imperfection. like an acrobat walking miraculousaly in a tight rope and moving your heart....

Kenneth Wheeler is one of my favorite artist by the way...

Chet is only in a league of his own....

If you like classical piano compare the controlled living imperfection in his playing of the pianist Ervin Nyiregyházi to almost any other "perfect" pianist, there will be no match...

Some artist live simply  on a league of their own...

Thanks for your appreciation and my best to you....

I like Enrico Rava, i think i own 25 albums at least....Those 2 also... He was a disciple of Chet like were some Italian jazz musicians fascinated in their young age by Chet who go to italia many times for some concerts......

Thanks...

An imperfect beating of the heart by the most amazing trumpetist, which has a never perfect playing, only living singing playing and so modest under the spell of any melody that it takes times before i decide that indeed he was the greatest trumpetist... 😎

All the others are perfect when they can, but they dont sing with the golden instrument forgetting sound and any  perfection...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6mfWun73vI

One of the greatest instrumental song in jazz....Eerily faithful to the emotion and to nothing else....No more ego only each nude note....

On par with "kind of blue" for me....Perfect epitome of what the best jazz is: spontaneously beating heart....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdDhinO58ss

Thanks very much to the poster...

I must say that i did not know much about Herbie Hancock, and i am in a frenzie grab of him now....

 

mksun

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This is one of my Desert “Island” Discs. 😀

Herbie Hancock musically inventive and rythmically never boring, never only "spectacular" but in complete control of the flowing line on these 6 ALBUMS ...

Wow! just damn good... Sometimes good is enough....

 

I never has known  Hancock was so good....The quality of his musical output from bluenote is homogenous...not a single less interesting track...

Thanks...

Oh! i dont have this one!

I like Mariano creativity...

A Miles Davis of the sax in his various metamorphosis...

@mahgister

Another excellent late-period Mariano: "Savannah Samurai" !

After my discovery of Pat Martino guitar very impressive original improvising pulsating chords in fired  creativity, thanks to frogman advice; now a masterful craftsman  of subtle tone hues and melody, Johnny Smith... With Grant Green and Martino in my favorite artists list together...

I am in heaven...

 

 

Alas! I never has been...

To be frank i only travelled by reading books...

My work schedule was heavy and i never had the money to spend to travel...I bought too many thousand books... I paid my house in short number of years because of that instead of travels expanse...I never had debt in all my life...

In music i like musician most than the genre in which they play...

I dont like heavy metal for example but nevermind i even discovered great musician there...

Then when i speak about music here it is not so much about jazz but mostly about a specfic jazz musician...

Jonnhy Smith is a great guitarist never mind the genre in which he play...

My dear @mahgister, I had no idea you could swing like that! Ever been to Kansas City, MO or St. Louis, MO?

 

Wow! now i must go looking for Joe Diorio...

Seems another master on par with those i just  named..

Thanks to our own audiogon master frogman...

 

Wow! Thanks...

another good one...I must look also for him and listen...

Ok please no new guitarist for 2 days here...

It takes times to look for them and listen... Wait for 2 days...

 

😁😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

 

Thanks my friend...

I already know them...😁😉😊

i must search the one i dont know... life is short but the hours to listen shorter...

i particularly appreciate Pass ...His fingers virtuosity is idiosyncrasic i dont know any other guitarist who play like he play.... Completely original sound....He is not the more melodious nor the more easy to listen to like Johnny Smith or Grant Green or Herb Ellis though...But he is creative like Martino and original like him in his own way...

I like guitar, tanbur, oud, tar, sitar, rudra veena etc Any string pluck instrument...

 

mahgister, sorry if this cuts your digestion time short. Here are two more guitarists you should know if not already familiar with them. Interestingly they both recorded with your countryman Oscar Peterson, not exactly a mellow artist, although he was expressive with ballads.

 

Thanks very much , the two of you, for Lonnie Smith and and Baby Face Willette..

 

I know none of them...

And i love Hammond organ, i never know why i love it so much?

But love had no reason...

I personally like to read a "justification" about an album.... Personal one, objective one, or all at the same time, a 2 line justification or a text...

This short or long justification make a recommendation personal like an article about the album....I personally focus on YOUR text to communicate WHY you love something...List without explanation had not much appeal for me...

Why not an explanation for most recommendations save the most evident one? Who need to read a reason to recommend the Beatles or Ella Fitzgerald? Save a personal one...But many known artists must be made more well known...Itr takes sometimes a motivation to listen to someone new in our world...

For example in my 2 line last post,i chose to be short, i spoke about the "pulse" behind all the trumpets summit music album.... If someone listen to this cd he will discover something rare or not so frequent: All the musicians dont play their part one after the other, they play PILOTED by a common pulse that make this album a masterpiece where all players blend whithout losing their personality at all and serve a higher goal....It is really a music piece not a public demonstration only...I listened to it many times ...

Perhaps frogman will help me to understand, confirm or infirm what i say.... He will be welcome because he KNOW how musicians feel playing together and how it translate into their dialoguing parts...

I can be wrong and all this fuss could be just my own making.or particular taste...

There is NO greatest guitarist...

But there is some that are very great....

Ostad Elahi is for Yehudi Menuhin one of the greatest musical experience in his life if we read him...Same for me...

I own many Joe Pass album, saying that he cannot play is akin to ridiculize ourself.... Sorry....Joe Pass did not even need any argument for his defense....Saying that Einstein is a moron mind is on the same level....

Taste in music dont mean anything if we cannot first experience all true geniuses....And true geniuses, even those which we dont love dearly ask for respect...

Our tastes NEVER set the rule for what is great, our tastes judge us first, not the music....



A true guitarist for me but on the Persian 5 strings tanbur designed by the master himself ...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6thX7sG9OWc&list=RDkxQqsM07yRw&index=10


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzgA33UZkac&list=RDkxQqsM07yRw&index=16
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Thanks to you...

I did not have the knowledge of jazz that some demontrated here, but i listen Jazz with great pleasure...

My best to you.....

Also, this is not real Persian music
Your opinion here is just the same bullshit that you give about Pass "who does not know how to play"...

You take pleasure to object to everyone?

When someone speak of American music this encompass ALL genre Bernstein and Bob Dylan not only traditional folk older music...

Ostad Elahi is a sufi mystic who improvize on one of the most used instrument in Iranian music the tanbur.... Alizadeh is a contemporary composer and master of the tar...

wikipedia:
« Elahi’s music is rooted in a TRADITION involving the rhythmic recital and invocation of sacred texts in devotional gatherings, accompanied by various instruments such as the tanbur (an ancient lute), the ney (reed flute) and the daf (frame drum).[20] »

This is PURE persian/iranian instrument....Persia/Iran has millenia of various music tradition coming from old Persia or India or Turkey etc........Sufism is certainly a very important one...




Everyone cannot be fooled....



Easter holiday and i am alone relaxing...

I am surprized by the intoxicating enebriation given by Larry Young and Grant Green in these blue note recordings...

Sometimes what struck me with some artists is less their virtuosity than their soul....It is the case here....I like the Hammond touch by a quiet soul....The guitar side is no less finely cool, the word "cool" is at the right place here....The rythm here serve the colors, not the opposite....

All is on youtube:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPBAau9GmQ&list=PL0q2VleZJVEmARnuPzft-g9N5QqVxBOSA&index=2


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0FpcX0HVwM&list=PL0q2VleZJVEmARnuPzft-g9N5QqVxBOSA
I have posted this at least a couple of times previously.  It is one of my favorite records and a real sleeper which seems to stay under the radar.  Amazing lineup:

https://youtu.be/aB1H4dJVvvk

https://youtu.be/M0Q7BM0_oLE

https://youtu.be/rZC7mEzczEI
Thanks for this one....

I am very please to have your opinion about him because i like his way very much....I am not a musician myself ...

My best to you....
I just discovered a "clue" about his harmony and melodical obsession in an article which was his obituary:

Dickerson’s first step upon buying a new pair of mallets is to strip away their fur; he then soaks the exposed rubber tips in a mineral solution to get a sound he describes as "plush," though paradoxically, it is also hard. His use of smaller mallets, gripped closer to the tip than is the custom for vibraphonists, allows Dickerson extraordinary speed on the bars, and because he uses his motor and damping bar so sparingly (if tellingly), he vibrates less than any other vibraphonist. The tradeoff is a lack of volume commensurate to Dickerson’s lack of vibrato, and this is surely one of the reasons why he steadfastly refuses offers to work as a sideman, why he has never featured a horn in his own groups... and why he now mostly plays solo on his frequent trips to Europe and Japan. He is one of only a handful of improvisers whose instrumental style amounts to a free-standing musical conception.

https://indianapublicmedia.org/nightlights/vibes-for-walt-walt-dickerson-rip.php


Then what give to his sound his power was precisely what make him also a "soloist" and an isolate player in his own world...

He is one of the best vibrationist i know of....And this is precisely his uniqueness that push him into a  relative oblivion....

Great artists are not always well known....What attract me to him was the 2 cd he recorded with Sun Ra as side man.... Sun Ra a great artist himself never was or at least not very often the side man of any other artist.... That speak something about Dickerson genius...

In fact, many, if not most, of my favorite artists of all time in any style  are not so well known or never inherited the recognition they deserve for the same reason, like in the case of Dickerson....I never realized that till this year...



An enigma to solve.....

Why one of the best vibraphonist i know of has recorded so little?

He plays searching harmony and harmonics more than rythm for sure...

(88) Liz - Walt Dickerson - YouTube

My local Ford dealer treats all his customers as if they are audiophiles. He charges about 300 dollars extra for filling the tires of his NEW cars with pure Nitrogen.
It cost me thirty bucks in Canada to fill my Toyota with nitrogen.... 😁😊

Ok i apologize for my astonishing surprize and post, i will go back to "impressions of a patch of blue" a great Dickerson album indeed...