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that tells me there has been an increase in the number of people who can buy such stuff, and it comes along at the same time as an increase in poverty?*****
Good point.
I am finally coming around to the view that the system is rigged. There are too many people making too much money by doing absolutely nothing. They produce nothing and they create nothing. If you can make millions or even billions by punching a few keys on a computer, or shuffling a few papers around, then a $185,000 stereo amp is nothing. After all, you didn't have to work for it.
How can we have a system where hedge fund managers can bet against the market, then spend all their time making sure the markets fall, and then they makes millions. All these so-called 'instruments' are just creations someone came up with to get rich. Not based on market forces or economic performance all. Schemes. Scams. There will be a reckoning.
But all systems 'correct' themselves when they get too far out of balance. Russia in 1917, Germany in 1930's, China in the 1950s, America in _____. Hope I'm not around.
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Good Lord!! I forgot my favorite 'correction' of all time: The French Revolution. I guess we could say, "heads rolled'. hahahahahah
Owners of Yamaha receivers and Polk Speakers ARISE!!!!!
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Rok, I'm glad you finally got my point, and I have done more than allege such stuff, I've laid it all out in black and white, simple math, 2+2 still equals 4. When they allowed "Goldman Sachs" to become a person, that signed, sealed, and delivered it.
Now we're going to have some more "De-regulation", and those pills Grand ma ma can not live without, will be $200, while heroin will go down to $5 bucks a fix. My suggestion is to get Grand ma ma enough dope to send her to Glory-Land, and watch her bid farewell with a big grin on her face.
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Rok, I'm doing my LP play list which only includes the best of the best; I'll send a note when I run across something special, such as now. Chico Hamilton "The Head Hunters"
No go on "you tube", maybe Amazon has it.
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This should put you in your analog place!! :)
He doesn't look like a hedge fund manager.
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Rok, that most certainly was not the type of person I was referring to, plus the most important factor would be the number of people purchasing $185K amps, plus the most expensive interconnects and wire, and you name it, to go with the rig. If you went further and queried the person I'm speaking of, he would know very little about the high end; but such people always remain ANONYMOUS. I saw a young man get berated, ( who was a born oligarch) because he was speaking out about family secrets. They didn't even want his name known. While being an oligarch is most certainly no crime, allowing politicians to use your wealth to manipulate markets, is most certainly a crime; politicians who are supposed to protect us from such, makes it even more of a crime.
Extreme audiophiles with the finances to afford such are not new, but if all of a sudden the entire high end manufacturing business seems to have changed, and so many new buyers that magazines are going "ultra high end", something is different.
I enjoyed that clip; although I would have tubes as opposed to SS if I had finances that would allow such; or maybe not, that's too much headache putting, and keeping it together.
(G G is in the background "Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child")
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What I find more amazing than anything else, is that I can hear the difference in the first rig,and this rig on my computer dime store rig.
Those speakers are just fine, but all that garbage coming from the front end got to go; I have to have a better front end.
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Rok, wondering which Wilsons you have compared the Polks to?***** The ones on the clip I sent O-10. Comparing them as they sound thru my Logitech computer speakers from a you-tube clip.. Just having fun. These:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd1JYxBZS3s
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I told yall about the time when I went to the store for computer parts, and a salesman told me he had some speakers he wanted me to look at. Since I didn't have on a badge, he couldn't tell that I was an "Audiophile", I understood that. "Maybe I'll look at them on my way out" I told him without stopping. Looked and looked, but couldn't find the computer part. Sure enough, he was almost blocking my path to the exit door. When I looked at the price tag, I said gimme a deuce, the fact that they're Polk is our secret. I put them in the workshop, and they were the best sounding little speakers I ever owned.
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When I looked at the price tag, I said gimme a deuce, the fact that they're Polk is our secret.*****
You were putting your 'audiophile' life and reputation at great risk. That';s almost as bad as being seen shopping in Best Buy wearing a BOSE T-shirt.
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orpheus10, You said, "
Nothing falls in or out of existence without a reason; the kind of jazz I
call "fantastic", only exists in the past. If you can find some
current jazz, that I would call fantastic I'll agree to that.
" I mostly agree with your statement. Once in awhile though..... I'd be grateful if you would give this a listen, if you haven't already and would like to hear your thought. Bob Branford Marsalis, "Love Supreme" live. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8LQoV-uUW0 |
For a short while in the middle of that segment, Branford Marsalis became John Coltrane live. "Trane" played differently live than he did on his recordings. I checked to see if Branford had ever seen Trane performing live; since he was 7 years old when "Trane" passed, it's doubtful; but there he was in the middle of that performance blowing exactly like I saw "Trane" blowing live at the peak of his career.
That whole segment was almost hypnotic for us devout JC fans; it invoked the essence of "Trane".
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Rok, I had no idea I was so far behind with Mingus; while I have the originals, he has reworked them so many different ways, they are the new originals. I keep thinking about "Dr. John" that great "Nawlins" philosopher "There are only so many croaks in a frog, and so many barks in a dog"; one day this dog gonna bark his last bark; it's time to git all that old jazz that I aint got before that last woof. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAR6vLIMqEwEnjoy the music. |
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"Some of y'all keeping the villages from having their own idiots."
From Dr John's CD "Creole Moon". "Food for thot" track.
Philosopher Indeed!
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Thanks for your comments "O." When I stumbled upon that Marsalis recording it completely tipped me over, in a good way.
Bob
rokid,
I love, love love Gene Harris. I was lucky enough to see him once at Jazz Alley in Seattle. Ray Brown on bass and I forget the drummer.
Bob
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Everybody do.
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To all Aficionados, old and new; I have come to the conclusion that there is so much "Jazz Jazz" out there that I have not heard, which was unavailable a short time ago, that personally, my attention will be focused on it's acquisition.
But have no fear, Ackman, and Frogman are here to cover new jazz. (it's nice to have a backup). That doesn't mean I wont still be looking for, and listening to new jazz; it's just that those two are far more qualified to review it than I am.
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Have any of you guys spotted that Warren Battiste CD?
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Rok, I have a 2 LP set that's not well recorded, I didn't know about the 2 CD set, or probably hasn't been available that long.
If it's better than the LP's, I'll get it.
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Rok, when you compare those times to these times you'll know why the music sucks; think about what you were doing when that music was popular, and what you're doing now; we're locked in a time void.
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You missed your chance Rok, I got a yen for some zen, and I know where to find it; in that Khmer jazz in upper Cambodia; them cats get down; listen to these beats; can you dig it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBVNgEPRNBYI just missed that trip; no joke, I never registered and MP's came to my house, but I wasn't home, and it was right after I got my discharge. Of course when they found out they didn't come back. If I had known they could jam like this, I would have gone just to catch a few sets. Enjoy the music. |
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Monk never played anything the same way twice, this is definitely his best "Bemsha Swing"; I don't have that. I think after "Round Midnight", "In Walked Bud" was my favorite Monk tune; I heard they both liked to dance; can't you just picture them two out on the town for a good time, and they run into each other doing those weird steps they did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuHjgKQDofsEnjoy the music. |
Rok, here's a funny story that wasn't at all funny at the time. I wanted to hear some Tibetan music, and there was a festival going on at the art museum in Forest Park that night. I couldn't get the wife to go, so I had to go by myself; it was halfway across the city of St. Louis.
I was just cruising along with some good music in the tape deck, when I noticed that I had been behind the same car for quite awhile. He turned left at the next street, I turned left at the next street. The first thought that came to my mind was "I sure hope he's not one of those paranoid dope dealers".
We both went about 5 miles down this street with me behind him, he turned right, and I breathed a sigh of relief, because I kept straight. The next corner I made a right, and a quick left, only to wind up behind the same car, but now we are going into this huge black dark park, and me and him are the only two souls in the park; that's when giant beads of sweat began to form on my forehead.
These guys shoot first, talk and think later; every time I made a turn in this inky dark park to avoid being behind this guy, he would accidentally make the wrong turn apparently trying to avoid me, and I would still wind up behind him. By now, I'm scared stiff, and hoping he doesn't stop, jump out and start spraying me, and I don't mean with insect repellent. Fortunately, he was as scared as I was, and he floored his car to get out of the park on the next straightaway.
It was all real funny after that, but it certainly wasn't a few minutes before. (that was life in the city a long time ago)
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I see Acman heard the call, and has risen to the occasion; I'm listen to "Serpine Fire", it has an ECM flavor. (do not compare this to "Jazz Jazz")
I'm listening to this music for what it's worth on it's ground. Since the artists in new jazz are not as well known as those in "old jazz" lets get acquainted; Jack DeJohnette (born August 9, 1942)[1] is an American jazz drummer, pianist, and composer; jazz fusion, and new-age are the additional genres he favors.
If you listen carefully you will hear "Miles" in this "Serpentine Fire"; that's because he played with Miles for awhile, which means they liked one another's music.
My criticism is that it does not have a clear cut beginning, middle and end.
"Made in Chicago", got a rating of 4 1/2 stars out of 5, which is very high. As I stated previously, Frogman is far more qualified to review "New Jazz" than I am. (where is Frogman) For some reason, music of this nature sounded better in the 80's, when I listened to similar music and artists on this very same label.
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Salt water and fresh water are quite different, and few creatures can survive in both; my mind can be either be "Salt water" or "Fresh water", but not both at the same time; "new jazz" is fresh water, and "Old Jazz" or Jazz Jazz, is Salt water.
"I think", that abstract jazz, would be a better term for "new jazz"; that's judging from the two that Acman posted. "Old and New", are far to ambiguous, but here again, we have to call it something. As long as we know what we're talking about, no one will get fined for wrongful terminology.
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Today's OUTRAGE!!
James Williams -- MEETS THE SAXOPHONE MASTERS
Gerald Wilson Orchestra -- JENNA
Both very good and neither can be found on you-tube.
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Seems as if the older one gets the less often they reach for the CDs on the bottom of the CD rack. I made a point, and an effort, to play the W's today. Therefore, Williams and Wilson. There are some gems down there. :)
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Reach? don't you have the low roll around desk chairs; but even with them, that bottom row is too much.
Since I'm into records; if it looks too good to be true, it is too good to be true; a brand new looking record that's 50 years old. Not only that, but we're talking about Sonny Rollins, Jay Jay Johnson, Horace Silver, Thelonious Monk, Paul Chambers and Art Blakey; ain't no way something can be wrong with that record, the record cover even looks new.
I'm holding this new looking record in my hand, and I'm not going to even spin it to find out what's wrong with it. I know me, and the first tip off is this record doesn't even look like it's been played (that much for sure).
Rather than get disappointed for the umpteenth time, I'll take my word for the fact that something is wrong with this record.
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Yes Rok,that is an outrage. If I wasn't so lazy I would set up an account. Why don't you? |
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If I wasn't so lazy I would set up an account. Why don't you?*****
Ich bin auch faul.
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Re: Egberto Gismonti - Café / Sapain / Dança Solitária No. 2 / Baião Malandro
Believe it or not, I have this CD. I can still 'see' the review on the pages of 'Stereo Review.' One of the few times they steered me wrong on music. I am sure it's great for what it is, just not my thing. You can't get away from the Blues, you just can't do it.
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