Interaural Crosstalk And Loudspeaker Setup


When listening to two channel stereo audio reproduction sounds from the right channel loudspeaker are heard by both the listener's right ear and left ear.  Sounds from the left channel loudspeaker are similarly heard by both the listener's left and right ear.  This fact has been labelled interaural crosstalk.  Here's a brief discussion of it from the Steve Hoffman forum.

Interaural crosstalk can be enhanced or diminished via electronic means and even by the physical design of the loudspeaker.  Can it also be accomplished via loudspeaker placement and acoustic treatments?  Toe-in could be a tool, but I'm thinking of a setup I saw back towards the end of the last century.  I remember visiting a retailer who had a large acoustic panel, maybe 6 ft by 6 ft, that was supposed to be placed between the loudspeaker, but perpendicular to the plane of the loudspeakers.  The idea was that the panel would lessen the crosstalk at the listener position.  I never heard a demo of the product so I have no idea if or how well it worked.

Does anybody have experience with setting up their listening space in this manner?  If so, what did you think?  BTW, I've look at near countless virtual system pics and I've never seen this layout.  That should tell me something, but maybe not.

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My one observation is that the systems with the largest sweet spots and most stable image have very wide and even dispersion/power response.  Perceived imaging is enhanced by diffusion between the speakers and even to the sides. It's not L/R crosstalk that I've heard mess up imaging so much as poorly managed in room reflections and gnarly off-axis response.

Also, digital has nearly perfect L/R isolation vs. analog systems and yet they don’t really image much better IMHO. Some studies have suggested ~65 dB separation to be more than adequate.

I guess my point is, while interaural crosstalk is a real thing it’s not really the problem we might think it is. The bigger issue is probably frequency cancellation in the center, making center channel speakers really useful for movies and 3 channel recordings as well as mono.

why is this a concern ? try a headphones i suppose.

Humans have evolved to hear from both ears at the same time thats how we localise things. you may just make it worce. we can tell distance, angle to sound, etc from the different time the audio araives at each ear. I think your just going to confuse your ear brain interface. 

My room is under my acoustic mechanical control...

My speakers heavily mechanically modified too...

I also use a mechanical separation between the 2 speakers for my near listening situation...(unpractical for most people.)

I remember visiting a retailer who had a large acoustic panel, maybe 6 ft by 6 ft, that was supposed to be placed between the loudspeaker, but perpendicular to the plane of the loudspeakers. The idea was that the panel would lessen the crosstalk at the listener position. I never heard a demo of the product so I have no idea if or how well it worked.

If you want to know about crosstalk read articles by Edgar Choueiri the Specialist of this concept in audio ...

Humans have evolved to hear from both ears at the same time thats how we localise things.

 

In Nature we hear one sound source for the melody of a bird for example.

In a living room with speakers we hear 2 sound sources for the same melody which impede the naturalness and information of spatial dimensions of the perceived sounds.

2 speakers stereo are unnatural situation .

 

In a word for our brain deciphering our 2 ears channels there is 4 speakers in the room:2 actual and 2 virtual because of the time interaural differential function.

Choueiri explain it all and his mastery of the subject is complete. Read him.

Every room sounds different depending on diffusion panels and absorption panels, corner traps, and reflection treatments, which can be either absorption or diffusion. Done right, it allows your system to be able to sound its best. If you buy these treatments, you could be looking at many thousands of $$$ of treatment, at least that is what it cost me; but well worth it

Interaural Crosstalk

Any conversation involving someone between the ages of 13-19 years old?

Here the 3 main negative effects as described by Dr. Choueiri numerous articles :

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Effects of Crosstalk

  1. Degraded Localization: Crosstalk interferes with the precise localization of sounds that occurs naturally due to slight differences in arrival time, amplitude, and tonality between the ears
     
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  2. Tonal Distortion: Choueiri notes that crosstalk can severely impact tonal accuracy, stating "Tonally, it was a mess. A piano sounded like a xylophone."
     
  3. Reduced Spatial Realism: The presence of crosstalk diminishes the spatial realism of recordings, preventing listeners from experiencing the full three-dimensional soundstage as intended.»https://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/theoretica-applied-physics-bacch-sp-adio-stereo-purifier/

I have never seen or heard of the setup you describe with a baffle between the speakers but I have experimented with several electronic gizmos that are designed to address this issue.

My favorite is a discontinued product called a BSG QOL processor. This unit goes between the preamp and the amp and it adds a significant illusion of depth to the soundstage. One of the nicest things about it is that you don't have to have your head in a vice to get the effect. I use it all the time - it makes virtually everything sound better. I bought a second one in case it fails. It got good reviews in Stereophile and TAS. They come up ocassionally on the used market and sell for a few hundred dollars (it retailed for $4K new).

I also have a Carver C-9. It works well to add depth and detail to the soundstage but you have to set it up carefully and you have to have your head locked into position to get the effect.

I also have a Black Ice FOZ SSX sound stage enhancer hooked up to my desktop system and it works very well. I tried it on my main rig and I didn't like it nearly as well as the BSG. Black Ice also makes a cross-talk reduction device that I haven't heard.

The newest kid on the block is the BAACH Spatial Audio system. I haven't heard this yet but I'm looking forward to checking it out. From the reviews it sounds similar to the Carver unit in that you have to calibrate your head position exactly in the setup. That would be a deal killer for me but I would like to hear it anyway.

I installed the BACCH system a few months ago.  The head positioning is not critical if you buy the head tracking camera option.  It's simply addictive.

Can't live without it.