I’ve followed many of the cable discussions over the years with interest. I’ve never tested cables & compared the sound other than when I bought an LFD amp & the vendor said that it was best paired with the LFD power cord. That was $450 US and he offered to ship it to me to try & if I didn’t notice a difference I could send it back. I got it, tried it & sent it back. To me there was no difference at all.
Fast forward to today & I have a new system & the issue of cables arises again. I have Mogami cables made by Take Five Audio in Canada. The speaker wire are Mogami 3104, XLRs are Mogami 2549 & the power cords are Powerline 10 with Furutech connectors. All cables are quite well made and I’ve been using them for about 5 years. The vendor that sold me the new equipment insisted that I needed "better" cables and sent along some Transparent Super speaker & XLR cables to try. If I like them I can pay for them.
In every discussion about cables the question is always asked, why don’t you do an ABX blind test? So I was figuring out how I’d do that. I know the reason few do it. It’s not easy to accomplish. I have no problem having a friend come over & swap cables without telling me what he’s done, whether he swapped any at all etc. But from what I can see the benefit, if there is one, will be most noticeable system wide. In other words, just switching one power cable the way I did before won’t be sufficient for you to tell a difference... again, assuming there is one. So I need my friend to swap power cables for my amp/preamp & streamer, XLR cables from my streamer to my preamp, preamp to amp & speakers cables. That takes a good 5-10 minutes. There is no way my brain is retaining what I previously heard and then comparing it to what I currently hear.
The alternative is to connect all of the new cables, listen for a week or so & then switch back & see if you feel you’re missing anything. But then your brain takes over & your biases will have as much impact as any potential change in sound quality.
So I’m stumped as to how to proceed.
A photo of my new setup. McIntosh MC462, C2700, Pure Fidelity Harmony TT, Lumin T3 & Sonus Faber Amati G5 & Gravis V speakers.
The stereo image is an audible illusion. Our ears/brains are being tricked into hearing sounds distributed throughout a spatial field. High Fidelity does an amazing job of making the room feel like it is full of musicians. And this can all be done with just two speakers. Changing cables or changing gear can disrupt the timing cues and the timbre of the music and since our senses are comparative we tend to decide we like one version over the other. Hence we will sometimes flip back and forth between two versions in our stereos unable to decide which we like better. That is not the basis for calling something, “snake oil“. It‘s much easier when we find a clear difference that we definitely like but don‘t be surprised if others disagree.
A/B blind testing works best with a group or panel of jurors because differences of opinions always arise in all but the most blatant of changes. In the end its your system and you can set it up like you want. I‘ll be the first to criticize it if I don‘t like it. But it is just an opinion. Maybe someone will measure their system‘s response in their room and argue it sounds great because it measures great. Sheesh!
To me, a great sounding system has clarity. That is high contrast from zero sound at rest to clear, powerful crescendos at the peaks. Bass is full, robust and clear. I can hear the fingers plucking the bass guitar strings. I can hear the timber of the drum heads. Voices are captivating with a reach out and touch them realism. Horns and brass sound like real horns and brass. Cymbals are crisp and delicate with a feel like they are right there. A piano sounds like a piano in the room and I can almost smell the wood of a stringed instrument. Rhythm and Pace that makes the music flow out of the speakers and captivates. No harshness, no fatigue and no sibilance- no cotton ear after listening a while at moderate or high volume.
A bad room can muddy the bass and mid bass. It can also accentuate sibilance. A/B comparisons will be clouded/confused if room interactions are interfering with the music. Some people will be more sensitive to that than others.
This is just common place facts almost pop psychology used as pretext to the debunk circus in audio using ABX ...😊
Child play sorry ...
Hearing is way more deep and way more trustful friend who helped us to survive in Nature than way more just a trickster or a child filling blank at random ... ...Hearing was refine ability was key to survival in Nature and society through speech immediate perception of nuances .
«"In seminars, I like demonstrating how much information is conveyed in sound by playing the sound from the scene in Casablanca where Ilsa pleads, "Play it once, Sam," Sam feigns ignorance, Ilsa insists," Magnasco said. "You can recognize the text being spoken, but you can also recognize the volume of the utterance, the emotional stance of both speakers, the identity of the speakers including the speaker’s accent (Ingrid’s faint Swedish, though her character is Norwegian, which I am told Norwegians can distinguish; Sam’s AAVE [African American Vernacular English]), the distance to the speaker (Ilsa whispers but she’s closer, Sam loudly feigns ignorance but he’s in the back), the position of the speaker (in your house you know when someone’s calling you from another room, in which room they are!), the orientation of the speaker (looking at you or away from you), an impression of the room (large, small, carpeted).»
As you can see i dont read pop psychology magazine describing how our hearing can be fooled ...
It is one side of the coin the other side is how our hearing create his own world of meaning and how our hearing beat the Fourier uncertainty limit thirteen times and nobody understand how this is possible...
Perhaps you learned to play with ABX protocol to debunk cables believers but i designed my own acoustic room and learned basic enough to know that if the Ears/brain can be fooled it is not the rule because we would had not survive our hallucinations or unrealistic and unnatural biases ...
The problem with the X part is that we distinguish sound qualities differences by our unconscious body feeling not by conscious remembering .We felt a change we do not always perceive it clearly. we will perceive it more clearly by changing some acoustics parameters in the room or the gear. ..
The double blind ABX test cannot be successful nor useful out of our usual sound environment including our system/room anyway ...
What is indistinguishable in some environment is distinguishable in our own .
You cannot do that by double blind testing with ABX method at all ...
The x part will introduce a conscious interference ( a suspicion and a self doubt the stress of being tricked ) that will impede your relaxed spontaneous body feeling continous reaction in each acoustics continuous parameters change when you adjust and tune an Helmholtz resonator mechanically for example as i did. ...
The goal is not a circus test , or an industrial statistical test on a hearing population but the goal is for you improving in an incremental but continuous way your own acoustic environment ...You cannot do it and felt compelled to prove it at each minor improvement... It is preposterous... Only people with no psychoacoustics understanding can propose that or people in the business of debunking gear marketing... Like objectivist techno cultist... 😊
Simple blind test is useful and enough for any individual audiophile.
2) You wrote there are 7 PCs but it was not 7 PCs. Some were just repeat. It’s like a trap and bring a confusion.
ABX implies that you listen to A, then B and then X which will be either A or B. Paul McGowan of PS Audio is of the same opinion that you are, he doesn’t like the X part of ABX as he feels that he’s being tricked.
I'm content with where I've ended up on this journey & you sound like you are too. We can part as friends & move on.
I wrote a trap (bit offensive) in my defense. This thread has been a joy to me. I learned few lessons and I like this topic very much with many knowledgeable participants. Cheers. Alex/WTA
2) You wrote there are 7 PCs but it was not 7 PCs. Some were just repeat. It’s like a trap and bring a confusion.
ABX implies that you listen to A, then B and then X which will be either A or B. Paul McGowan of PS Audio is of the same opinion that you are, he doesn't like the X part of ABX as he feels that he's being tricked. But it's not meant to trick you, it's meant to discern whether you can actually distinguish the difference between A & B and identify them when you don't know which you're listening to. If, after hearing A & B you can't tell which thing X represents that's a pretty good indication that they are indistinguishable.
I'm content with where I've ended up on this journey & you sound like you are too. We can part as friends & move on.
@mahgisterAlways talking about acoustics, he is right and I say that with a unique perspective making recording all over the world and listing to my own recording all over the world.
I greatly appreciate your feedback on my own experience . I dont have yours in all the world studios then i am way less credible than you are ...
But you certainly can imagine that 2 years full time in a dedicated homemade acoustical room with hundred of experiments along basic acoustics concepts convince me of what you just said in the rest of your posts...
Most people cannot do what i have done because it takes a room your wife will never enter into 😁... And so much time that it had been full time reading, thinking , tinkering 2 years being retired...
Now i learned enough to be cured of gear upgrade audiophilia...
With usual my computer speaker (Bose companion 3),best sound (0:17), 2nd best (0:50), Worst (1:08).
This shows the difference between listening to sound where we know what we’re hearing and can be influenced vs a blind test.
I agree. Human ears are tricky and our hearing is influenced always.
While I agree on your above statement, below things should be clear. The info about ABX material must be clear and correct.
1) My audio system sound is cleanest in the world (in reproduction audio) and it shows coloration of 4 PC’s sounds clearer than any other system. Editing video damages the sound in it. Your video sound is very different from my video. Your video is colored like other video’s sound. So, it is harder to hear the difference.
2) You wrote there are 7 PCs but it was not 7 PCs. Some were just repeat. It’s like a trap and bring a confusion.
IDing the sound is hard and you had wrong info with degraded sounds. You believe they are same sounds but it’s not. It’s not a good ABX case.
I and many a’philes I took decades to earn seasoned ears. Seasoned ears (who can hear the cleaner, un-veiled, less colored sound) can hear more easily (still not easy) the clean and better sound. However, it is very hard (impossible?) for un-seasoned ears (listening harsh sounds for all life) to hear the clean and better sound. It will take some times to have open-ears. Not in a couple of minutes for sure. Alex/WTA
Adding a second sub is almost always a great idea, and if you’re having difficulties hearing significant improvements with much pricier cables then I agree you will almost certainly hear a bigger improvement with a second, properly dialed-in sub. FWIW.
With usual my computer speaker (Bose companion 3),best sound (0:17), 2nd best (0:50), Worst (1:08).
This shows the difference between listening to sound where we know what we're hearing and can be influenced vs a blind test. I was falling into this trap when I first put the Transparent cables in place and though it took 15 minutes I was sure that they sounded better. Later after swapping back I could see there was no difference.
My dealer says that no one has ever returned cables after an audition in his 45 years experience. His opinion is that Super was not a high enough level to notice and he would like to bring by Ultra or better and witness the swap and resulting sound himself.
In my experience there is a very strong motivation to hear an improvement because you want your system to sound the best that it can and if others say that better cables produce better sound then you should hedge your bets and get the best cables you can afford. I'm willing to bet that a second sub will have a much bigger effect than a cable swap at a fraction of the cost.
@audphile1You say I wasn't there at the original recording, well I was I spend many many many many decades recording sound all over the world at the highest level in studios, churches, opera houses, castles trains and city streets I do know how the actors voice sound when your having lunch with them and understanding the differences when you're recording them with a different microphone than you usually use or listening to them on different monitors. The differences are not about cables or even the level of noise in the preamp the differences are acoustic.
In recording the limitations are always acoustic, the microphones you use are determined by how the instrument or voice sounds in that room at that level with still more considerations about the public address operator and his system and how loud the bass is and where the drummer is or on a movie set where the electric generator is that you can't move and it's to close to use your favorite microphone. Just like in recording acoustics is number 1 in playback acoustics is number 1 the speakers are like the microphone (use the best one you've got) the playback environment is like the recording studio it makes the most difference. When someone wants to sell you an expensive cable smile and nod then look around your room where you can improve your acoustics.
@mahgisterAlways talking about acoustics, he is right and I say that with a unique perspective making recording all over the world and listing to my own recording all over the world.
I have a large variety of cables I purchased over the years. Not very expensive ones , no lamp cord, many very nice Chinese cables that would cost a fortune if they were made in Europe where I live. Anyways.
I have been extensively listening to them all, for long periods of time, to the point that their performance has become very predictable. I can tune my system to a different flavor, I know exactly which cables to use. Predictable, repeatable results, both good and bad, that's no placebo. Why would I ever need a blind ABX text? Why can't people understand that, if our brains are indeed tricked by "situations" or "context", the stressful blind ABX teste with short bursts of music is certain to influence those brains - in a bad way- just as much as the (widely inflated) expectation bias?
And yes hamburger with Mushroom and caviar and truffes help hearing...
Caviar on hamburger…I haven’t graduated to that level yet. Just don’t eat nachos when listening. They are too crunchy and can effect the soundstage that the recording engineer created using his mogami cables.
It is amazing how much our brains fill in, which isn’t there.
Hence why blind ABX testing is the ultimate way to prove whether or not something is improved.
Sound perception is not about "filling what is not there" you conflate flawed stereo listening illusions (crosstalk problems) with spatial objective qualitative information the brain compute from the two ears about a vibrating sound source qualities and state and localisation ...
let down the ABX manual and buy a book about acoustics... 😁
You see a side of a coin..
You forgot the other side...
Biases are not only negative impediment...
Some biases are positive and acquired in specific training environment as our own created incrementally dedicated acoustic room..
Have you ever created one yourself ?
I bet no...
If you had created one you will understand how hearing can delude us yes but most of the time inform us...You will had used as i have working on my room /system simple blind test...No need to ABX double blind circus...We are not here to prove our gold hearing ability but to create our own room ...
Guess what properties here are essential for survival in nature ?
No not the delusion part or aspects of hearing the informative trained one the more important one ...
We must learn to hear in real environment , for example trackers in jungle...Our own well known room especially our dedicated self created one ...
We dont learn to hear to be debunk by Circus James Randi ...
And yes hamburger with Mushroom and caviar and truffes help hearing...
Okay, I played that YouTube video on my phone. I hear the same thing at both time stamps. That speaker sounds scratchy and edgy both times. I think the second time makes the edgy sound more obvious because the guy is speaking saying, “This is the natural sound of my voice.“
If a cable makes your music have a wider soundstage that only means that it is defective, you should have the soundstage the mixer intended you to hear.
I think my current Nordost Tyr 2 XLR cables are defective then because they image and stage better than the mogami and several other cables that I used in the past.
Soundstage is done by placing the instruments using a pan pot on the mixer one side of the mix will have a louder signal than the other if the cable gives you extra loud images than that is the same as turning up the volume.
In the recording studio, may be. However, audio reproduction at home is an echo system consisting of components, speakers, room, listener and even cables. It is a complex blend of many factors that affect imaging and soundstage. A change of a speaker toe in angle will make it or break it. None of us have a reference of how it was intended. We weren’t there.
Your thought process, @donavabdear, is flawed in many ways. Including your belief that canare and mogami if used in the studio are good enough for home audio. If I use gruyere cheese and black truffle butter on my burgers and McDonalds doesn’t, are my burgers defective?
To evaluate the sounds, one needs to check the state of ears. Human ears trick our perception of sounds. A same sound can be heard much different by ears.
In below video, the sound at 0:27 seems pretty quiet, but the same sound is actually very noisy with a wide soundstage at 1:28. Generally, above sound can be heard like 0:27 to a’philes and like 1:28 to women/non-a’philes. Alex/WTA
If a recording is played back at a different SPL (Sound Pressure Level) than the original performance, is that not distortion? Yet, recordings do not come with liner notes that specify the playback volume. I tried to convince my wife years ago that I‘m not playing the stereo too loud, I‘m playing it at the original recording level and any less loud would be distortion. She didn‘t buy it but as long as it is a song she likes…
The size of the soundstage on my system varies with the recording. Some recordings are small and intimate and some go beyond the walls of my room. How would I know what is right if I have never heard the original performance? Based on my experiences listening to live music I judge what seems right during a listening session at home.
There is a Roger Waters recording that puts voices 90 degrees to my left and my right. It is the most extreme that I have heard on my system save for the “laughing voice“ that is right by my head near the end of Dark Side of the Moon. Depending on speaker placement and room treatments the Roger Waters recording that I am referring to will make the imaging move forward towards the front of the room a bit from extreme left and right. So I have used that as a benchmark to ensure I have an optimum setup- assuming the artist intent was to have the sounds to the extreme left and right.
If a cable makes your music have a wider soundstage that only means that it is defective, you should have the soundstage the mixer intended you to hear. Soundstage is done by placing the instruments using a pan pot on the mixer one side of the mix will have a louder signal than the other if the cable gives you extra loud images than that is the same as turning up the volume. Recording studios don't use uber expensive audiophile cables anywhere it's Canare or Mogami star quad in some form or another. If you change the imaging of what you are supposed to hear that is distortion. Distortion is bad.
@mihorn You chose the JPS cord as the best & worst sound, the WT v2 was your second best choice. I agree with @mahgister they all sound the same.
I mis-estimated my cond. I listened lots of other people’s violin videos at WBF this morning. My ears are in bad cond. Read few posts from #142. I deleted my words from #142 but you can read my words from a reply.
I admit 1 time listen and feedback for 7 sounds (15 sec each) was my mistake. I was too confident with my ears.
The sound of your dubbed video is different sound from my video. Editing video damages sound. That’s why I don’t edit my videos.
You gave a good lesson. The sound is a hard field. I’ll be careful for future feedback of any sound. That’s why there was no natural sound until now in last 150 years of audio history. Alex/WTA
Do you think I recorded these samples a second time? I just plucked them off of the original and separated them with a dead spot from the original. There was no change in any equipment involved.
The sound evaluation at distance through youtube or recording mic from a specfic room imply so much variables that we cannot assess cables differences even if we hear them in all case...
In the case of milhorn test i heard a very good system in an acoustically acceptable room acoustic and good mic conditions immediately, this is why i spot easily the differences...😊
In the second case with dwcda the room conditions and system conditions are less favorable , i did not hear immediately any differences except that the room/system were less good and perhaps the mic recording then i dont listen more than once ...They appear all the same in THESE CONDITIONS with this system/turntable/room ...
Anyone in an optimized room with a balanced system want to give their impressions on the 7 power cords in this file?
With usual my computer speaker (Bose companion 3),
best sound (0:17), 2nd best (0:50), Worst (1:08).
I mentioned many times before that no cable or audio company knows how to make a proper audio power cord. The best sound above can be cheap stock cable. It is the matter of luck the most of time for the better sound power cord. I know this because I only know how to make it right. Alex/WTA
No way someone can hear differences from a youtube video if his system is in a non optimized room with an unbalanced system...
First in these conditions i cannot judge like if i was there , but what is bad will be perceived clearly if your system is very well balance ...Mine is ... I dont need blind test and i dont need to prove anything ...
2nd subs are a great idea for any large room, but make sure you play sound through those cables while they settle or burn in 24/7. Most high quality cables will change quite a bit over 5 days, and it's so tempting to skip this step and completely miss what a cable actually sounds like. The choice of transparent cables is also questionable to me because, in my very limited experience with them, they aren't that transparent. They have an RLC network inside to match the impedance and you already have autoformers in your mac amp. IME, the first win for better cables is more detail, transparency and clarity, and for me, especially in the presence to treble frequencies. If you think cables make no difference, try some high end nordost! Not a good fit for every case, but they score high in clarity.
OP - your room acoustics when addressed will be a better ROI than cables, in the current state of your system. Revisit cables after if you still feel the need to explore.
I've decided to put some of the money I would have spent on these cables towards a second sub. I've moved the existing sub to the best spot as indicated to me by crawling around on the floor while it played in my chosen listening spot. The ceiling brackets arrive this week allowing me to mount two of the panels on the ceiling at first reflection. The diffusion panels are mounted front & back. I think I'll be good. When the MEN220 arrives I'll be ready to see what it can do to the overall sound.
That’s my concern with the cables I auditioned. There could be differences but they’re very small and not worth the cost to me
I mentioned this in one of my posts earlier in this thread if you recall. Even if you will hear a difference is it worth it to you. But then you stated you thought you heard an improvement and when you switched back to Mogami you realized it’s all the same. No difference. Not a thing.
Cable evaluations can only be concluded -
I hear the difference, like it and can’t unhear it, I just have to have these cables.
Yes there’s a difference but I don’t like the effect
I hear the difference but it’s too small to justify the investment.
I hear no difference at all.
There’s also another category that flat out deny there could be a difference without even trying anything. This is the give me scientific evidence, blind test, measurements crowd.
In either case, it make absolutely no sense to argue and try to convince anyone. As I said earlier, the arguments fall on deaf ears.
OP - your room acoustics when addressed will be a better ROI than cables, in the current state of your system. Revisit cables after if you still feel the need to explore.
You previously stated you surmise anyone who cannot hear differences that you perceive in cables, to have compromised hearing and/or equipment; that sure seems like professing to me. I’m unclear which stance you actually hold since it couldn’t very well be both, could it?
@benandersYou took this out of context. This was in response to another previous post by someone who adamantly stated there are no differences between cables whatsoever, which to me is patently absurd but he’s free to think whatever. And I was clear that my opinions on individual cables (or components) are just an indication of what others may (or may not) hear, and I don’t profess at all that if they hear things differently that they’re wrong. I still enjoy and find it helpful to hear other people’s subjective impressions of how things sound whether I ultimately agree with them or not, but most times I get something out of their opinions and learn something from them — that’s largely why I’m even here. But you continue to hang your hat on biological studies, scientific panels, and things that supposedly can’t be measured with respect to cables in other various industries and I’ll just continue to listen and trust my ears. Whatever, and to each his own.
1st, it’s hard to notice the sound difference with my system which is a really good sounding system. The sound is still good with a bad power cable.
That's my concern with the cables I auditioned. There could be differences but they're very small and not worth the cost to me
3rd, You have no idea what the difference looks like between 4 PCs sounds. The sound is a hard field to describe or explain since the sound is invisible. The evaluation of sound needs much experienced and trained ears. Many people and I took decades to earn seasoned ears.
I'd find that analysis valid if mahgister listened to a sample of 6 recordings and gave a similar synopsis without knowing which recording related to each cable and could discern the duplicates.
@mihorn I listened to that on my system & heard no difference between any of the 4.
Is it just me? Has anyone listened to those 4 recordings and heard differences?
Thank you for your honest feedback!
1st, it’s hard to notice the sound difference with my system which is a really good sounding system. The sound is still good with a bad power cable.
2nd, the change between 4 PCs is one piece power cable which is may be 3~7% of a whole sound. It is a small portion.
3rd, You have no idea what the difference looks like between 4 PCs sounds. The sound is a hard field to describe or explain since the sound is invisible. The evaluation of sound needs much experienced and trained ears. Many people and I took decades to earn seasoned ears.
Wavetouch win for me easily ... More natural sound ... The worst is the first i dislike it completely 😁... Second zentara better indeed but wavetouch win the cake and is not fatiguing as the first cable and more natural timbre than the second ...
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4th, my system is an only natural sound system in the world and your ears are used to un-natural sounds. Your ears need a couple minutes of adjustment with my system sound.
A sample of the natural and un-natural sound.
There are many more me to say but it is useless if you don’t see it.
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4 sounds are confusing. Please try 2 sounds.
Please listen below whole music. Try to watch 70% (listen 30%) to locate sound images and location of instruments and voice. Concentrate and try to remember.
Please try to locate instruments and voice. Click 18:53
Please try to locate instruments and voice. Click 4:46 Please remember the difference is subtle. Alex/WTA
“What works for you works for you. But professing what you perceive should apply to others’ perceptions and/or use cases? Better off having some evidence.”
@benanders Yeah, and if a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his ass a hoppin’. Back in the real world and in most cases there is limited or no “evidence,” especially with something like cables.
@soix evidence for / against cable differences - that cable manufacturers don’t seem to hold consumer preference studies seems like a strange knowledge gap to maintain, IMO. Critical parameters for cables in aerospace and military purposes show minimal to no measurable difference in what almost any HiFi setup would use. But let’s set aside such measurements since admittedly they’re of limited relevance for music listening purposes if not closely aligned with consumer preference studies.
I mean, that’s why we’re here — to give others an indication of something they might or might not want to audition or try, not to profess as you say that our perceptions will necessarily be the same as theirs, but indications can still be very useful and helpful despite the inherent variability.
You previously stated you surmise anyone who cannot hear differences that you perceive in cables, to have compromised hearing and/or equipment; that sure seems like professing to me. I’m unclear which stance you actually hold since it couldn’t very well be both, could it?
(BTW, when I said I can hear differences that are clear, consistent, and repeatable I was saying for me — not necessarily others — in response to your assertion based on some study somewhere that people’s aural memory is crap and you need a flip switch to reliably discern differences — I again say hogwash to that.)
Well, that’s your prerogative @soix . Rigorous objective studies on our biological capacities and limitations tend to hold up among scientific panels and courtrooms, but admittedly Internet personalities can think of them whatever they want, whether or not they’ve reviewed the material.
@mihorn I listened to that on my system & heard no difference between any of the 4. So I had my spouse choose the part to play while I had no idea which she was playing & I could not tell if she was playing different pieces or just the same one again & again. So no difference for me.
Is it just me? Has anyone listened to those 4 recordings and heard differences?
@dwcda YouTube compresses sound files so there’s potential for argument. However, I’d expect any compression effects would be independent of cables. Multiple other reasons why YouTube clips could be problematic for comparisons like this, but I’ll try to give a listen later. Thanks @mihorn for making the effort.
@mihorn I listened to that on my system & heard no difference between any of the 4. So I had my spouse choose the part to play while I had no idea which she was playing & I could not tell if she was playing different pieces or just the same one again & again. So no difference for me.
Is it just me? Has anyone listened to those 4 recordings and heard differences?
OP There is no way my brain is retaining what I previously heard and then comparing it to what I currently hear.
I agree. So, I record the sound each time I change any cable or equipment. Can you post any live-record video?
This is my video of 4 power cords comparison. Click these times (4:46 JPS), (9:50 Zentara), (14:38 WT v2), (18:53 WTPC) to hear different cables. More time marks are in comment section. Alex/WTA
@dwcdawell that’s great news! Confirm your findings and move on. $18,000 can easily be spent on an amazing improvement in room acoustics and components. Enjoy the music!
So yesterday I swapped the Mogami cables for the Transparent and spent the day and today playing songs I know well. I documented areas of each song that I found notable. Today I swapped back the Mogami. I know I said I'd wait a week but I wanted a preview. I found no difference. Not a thing. Both sound amazing. There were no additional details, no change in bass/treble/etc. It sounded exactly the same. Could be my ears or listening abilities but I think I just saved myself $18,000. If anything I'll consider buying another subwoofer. But I did leave the Transparent connected and I'll compare again in a week.
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