I need Hign compliance cartridges


Hi, could you tell me

some not very expensive high compliance cartridges (under 1000-1500 usd) MM and MC.  that suit for heavy tonearms. If you know exact figures please indicate them.

I know only that denon 103 is a high compliance mc cartridge.

 

Thank you very much

 

Serge

serge8

Why would you want a high compliance cartridge to use with a heavy tonearm? The Denon is a low compliance cartridge. A high compliance is used with lighter mass arms!

Oups I confused everything  on the contrary

I meant LOW of course LOW compliance !!! not high!!!!

It is something went wrong in my head

I am sorry

Koetsu are low compliance cartridges, for one example.  I think Miyajima cartridges are low in compliance as well.  Most MC cartridges are on the low end of the compliance spectrum, with some notable exceptions. Seems to me that the MC cartridges I have liked best in actual use are those few with high-ISH compliance.

Koetsu are an excellent example, as mentioned. But their price begins above your range unless you get a used deal. For a new cartridge, the Ortofon Cadenza Red has a nice low compliance (12 @ 10Hz) and works well with higher mass arms. Note that the higher end Ortofons above Cadenza Bronze actually have a higher compliance and are not as well suited to heavy arms. The Cadenza Red, Blue, Bronze models are the ones you want for a heavy arm like Fidelity Research.


Also note that you cannot easily compare Japanese cartridge compliances @100Hz with Euro cartridges @10Hz. In practice, that Ortofon’s compliance of 12 at 10Hz isn’t far off a Japanese 5 (Koetsu) at 100Hz.

A Denon 103R or a modified 103 might be just what you are after.  SoundSmith MIMC Star is an amazing low compliance cart (especially after it’s fully broken in).

Hana SL (Shibata Low Compliance) for $700 is the best under $1000 mc cartridge. 

I use Koetsus in my main system. In my vintage system, I use a Franken Denon 103 that has a micro ridge stylus, has been repotted into a wood body and tweaked by Steve Leung at VAS. His prices are reasonable, he can often supply the completed cartridge and provide video of the exact cartridge he is supplying showing it play and is very responsive to customers with fast turnaround. He is located in N.J. and is also a well-regarded repair and retipping operation. 

Dear @serge8  : If you still own your MS tonearm then it almost does not matters about high/low compliance because that tonearm is a removeble headshell design and you always can have different headshells weigth to match the cartridge or cartridges you want to mount on it, listen and decide with which headshell performs the best for your priorities on listen MUSIC.

 

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.

Another vote for Koetsu for low compliance cartridges. Can be found in your price range used, if you’re patient. Their flagship Kai is for sale discounted at TMR, but still outside you range. I experienced it as worth saving up for purchase. 

Koetsu makes outstanding cartridges. I have a Rosewood Signature… outstanding. I don’t know about compliance, I let my dealer deal make sure what I buy is compatible with my system. It is.

Phasemation cartridges are all 8 or 8.5, depending on the model. They're big in Japan but not so well-known here in the US. I owned the entry-level P-3G around 20 years ago, when the company was known as Phase Tech. It was excellent..until I broke it.

I have been demo'd a not too expensive Phasemation MC Cart' alongside a DS Audio Cart'. The Phasemation was in my view an impressive Cart' as a comparison and considering the price difference. 

@pindac , which one did you audition? These are back on my radar as I think about moving to a higher-level MC, like some of the MSL carts.

I have never known the Phasemation Cart' Model.

I am going to suggest it was a higher up the range model, maybe the 2000 as the resident system used is approx' £200000, using Soulution Amp's and Maxonic Field Coil Speakers.

The DS Audio Cart' demo'd was claimed to be their most expensive from this period of time, I again assume the Grandmaster. 

I have also had a very long demo' of a Phasemation EA 350 Phonostage used with Valve Amplification and QUad ESL's and have been left very impressed, it is one of a few SS Phon's  I have developed a real liking for, and would/still recommend it as a a model worth receiving a demo' if a SS Phon' in the $4K range was of interest to others.

They make interesting products, for sure. I have a 20x SUT from the Phase Tech days that is quite good.

What arm?

FYI not sure about the compliance but I assume Fidelity Research vintage MM's suit heavy arms.

Ortofon SPU's are a classic choice for heavy arms. EMT cartridges. I found my Shelter 501 is quite low compliance and works veery well in the heavy FR64s arm

@pindac, there is this German saying ''Gedanken sind frei''. (thoughts are free).

Has something to do with ''opinions'''. Mind you they also invented the

expression ''VERBOTEN''. 

This kind of questions alwaays give the opporunity to the members to mention

what  kind of carts they own and like. But the question ''where'' those 

can be got is also always avoided. My info is, so te speak, complete..

@pindac, you will not believe this but the problem is grammar. It is

not an science. Grammar allows only one subject and one predicate in

each  sentence. Look at the ''sell contract''. Onlu seller is mentoned

but one can't sell anything wthout a buyer. If the buyer was mentioned

than also his rights. Those determine that no buyer can be forced

to buy whatever. Otherwise the contrac would be invalid. 

I wan't mention ''free trade'' in the so called ''capitalistic countries''

For moral questions I would recommend Emanuel Kant.

I listed my ADC 26 + 25 other carts on the Dutch (for free) site Marktplaats.

But Hifi Shark publish all second hand carts. However one need to

search by carts NAME. 

By MC kinds one need to separate ''iron '' -from ''coreless coils''. The first

mentioned increase the output but also distortionas (sic!)  the second

decrease output ( +/- 0,2 mV)  as well impedance and compliance. 

Koetsu is example for the first , Ikeda's (FR 7 series) for the later. 

This than explains wich kind of phon-pres or SUT's one will need.