I Don't Understand What Determines When A Thread Gets The Axe
I've only been a member of Audiogon since 2016 or 2017, so maybe some "old timers" could fill me in. I don't understand how threads covering "beaten like a dead horse" topics, for example, oh off the top of my head, "Cable Deniers", can carry on for days or weeks, have pages and pages of posts from Members that frankly get quite ugly with name calling and basically Grade School playground behavior...yet the Moderators never say a word or never step in with the, "This Discussion Is Closed" Czar-like ruling.
However, when a Member like, say @verdantaudio, tries to warn us about Fraudulent Retail Websites AND has proof that these sites are ripping people off, along with proof from other Audiogon Members who provide examples of these sites conducting fraudulent business activities, the Discussion is shut down and closed. WHO decided to close the discussion? The original poster? Audiogon? How do you find out? Better yet, WHY was a topic as important as Fraud shut down after only 30 posts, some with extremely valuable information such as one member who had done a Whois.com research showing extremely sketchy information and another Member who had information about the state of Kansas Fraud Unit investigating one of the companies.
Is it because a Forum Member kept complaining about the post? Do the businesses in question advertise on Audiogon? I'm very curious who makes the decisions on which discussions get shut down and which discussions are allowed to drone on and on with behavior and comments that people would NEVER have the guts to say to one another face to face. I've truly wondered this ever since I joined this fantastic audio community -- a place where I've learned more in 7 years than I had learned in the previous 35 years!
I must say I wasn't at all surprised when I saw the discussion had been closed. After all, a Member had made this cryptic post -- "My guess is this thread won't last." Let's see how long this one does (before it gets zapped, I'd sure like to know the outcome of the Kansas fraud unit that is investigating the company).
@rooze-- I completely understand and get that. The 2 websites mentioned in the original post, which I saved to follow up on, are SO OUTSIDE the box of "is it or isn’t it fraud" that it is mind-blowing they stayed on the Shopify site for as long as they did. According to @verdantaudio, the site located "in Kansas" is now blocked on Shopify (do a Google Earth search to see their sprawling barn and silo where I’m sure they keep $15,000 speakers 😂🤣). I’ve intentionally NEVER named the 2 companies in any post to avoid just what you highlighted.
My 7 month old rescues (an Orange brother and his Tortie sister) are teaching my wife and I a thing or thirty about kittens! Mainly, they have one brain cell between them and they take turns using it!
If you think that's bad . . . ha ha . . . three years ago this coming March, we adopted a couple of 8 week old shelter puppies (brother & sister). What a destructive duo!
@immatthewj-- Thanks for doing a wonderful thing! Dobby and Kossa keeps us on our toes. We also have two GrandDogs that keep us hopping. Bruce "The Brown Dog" is a 35-pound 13 year old Boxer and Plott Hound mix, and his baby brother is a 95 pound 3 year old Siberian Huskie and Dane mix. He's a BIG BOY!
@allenf1963, good to hear from a fellow animal lover and audiophile (although I am not sure the audiophile handle applies to me).
Not familiar with the Plott Hound breed, but the two puppies we adopter were both boxer mixes (35% according to the DNA that came with the "plan" we put them on; and what we didn’t know at the time was that there was also some American Staffordshire mixed in--the female is highly energetic, but her brother is turning into a couch potatoe, which is fine by me).
Anyway, what I didn’t mention when I responded to your "kitten post" (and kittens are fun) was the dog adoption I referred to occurred after my beloved rescued Rat Terrier mix died three years ago and I was heart broken. And along with those two Tasmanian Devil Puppies, we also adopted a third dog--a five year old Shepherd-Beagle mix named Jack. I was the only one who originally saw his charm, but it turns out (not a surprise to me) that he is the sweetest dog of the trio.
Those kittens will keep you on your toes, but it will be fun to watch as they mature into cats. Keep on rocking!
@immatthewj-- The Plott Hound is not widely known outside of North and South Carolina, but they are gaining popularity. Briefly:
The Plott Hound is a large scent hound, originally bred for hunting bears. In 1989, the North Carolina General Assembly designated the Plott Hound as the official State Dog.[The Plott Hound was first registered with the United Kennel Club in 1946. Plott Hounds were recognized by the American Kennel Club in 2006 and were exhibited at the Westminster Show in 2008. The Plott Balsams, a mountain range in North Carolina, are named for the Plott family, whose ancestor, (Johannes) George Plott (c. 1733–1815), immigrated to North Carolina in the late 18th century from Germany. The Plott Hound breed of hunting dog is also named for the Plotts. The ancestors of today's Plott Hounds were used for boar hunting in Germany. Originally from Germany, in 1750 Johannes "George" Plott emigrated to the English colony of North Carolina. He brought a few wild boarhounds (five Hanover Hounds, used for bear and boar hunting) with him. These dogs had been bred for generations for their stamina and gameness. George and his wife Margaret with their family settled in the mountains of western North Carolina.
@dill -- Good one. Sorry our love of audio and animals "soured" on you. See, I can make jokes too. My topic has run it's course, so if Matthew and I want to indulge ourselves with our crazy Fur Kids and our audio gear, feel free to skip or opt out.
I often realize that people live more free when they tolerate more and "law-enforce" less. It's a lot less spending than enforcing more and more rules. The more group of people such as nation or community or regional reasonably can tolerate, less effort needed to enforce rules. Therefore I do not mind conversations turning toward Hanover Hounds and appreciate Audiogon going light on this discussion after hearing and viewing enough of complains and confrontations about them folks doin not too great stoppin and removing entire legit discussions even more than "every so often".
@allenf1963, at the risk of further antagonizing @dill, I will only say that after reading what you wrote about the development of the Plott Hound, I am surprised that "the brown dog" (Boxer/Plott mix) only weighs in at 35 lb.s!
Getting back to those two puppies I told you about (female 35% Boxer, 35% American Staffordshire, aka pit, 30% parts unknown, and the Male 35% Boxer 25% Staffy, 12% American Bulldog 30% parts unknown, the female matured at 69 pounds and the male at a whopping 89 pounds!
Anyway, reading what you wrote about the lineage of the Plott, they do not seem totally unlike the Pit.
@czarivey-- Thanks, Brother. Sometimes we just need to brag on our Fur Kids. My own kids are full-fledged adults....so Fur Kids are all I have that mind me (sometimes).
@immatthewj-- Yes, Bruce The Brown Dog (when he was a puppy people would look at this strange looking dog and ask, "What is he?". My son would say, "He's a Brown Dog!") is definitely on the smaller side. He has lost probably 10 pounds in the last few years. Getting to be an old feller. Been with us 13 years and still lives to chase his ball. You have extra dependents, not pets. That's some big pups!
Now, it clearly figures that threads bashing ultra-mega-jumbo-mumbo-priced components such as 6-figures on pretty-much any component will get axed. manufacturers of such equipment are watching this site to interfere and ask to shut it down manually. Rockplrt-Lyra thread had been recently closed mainly because of that. Admins and Audiogon staff status becoming very shaky and untrustworthy indeed!!!
@tonywinga-- After reading your reply above, I had to visit the "Jay's Thread" because I had missed it. Loved your story about how you acquired the MoFi version of the Alan Parson's masterpiece.
"Tales of Mystery and Imagination..." in 1976 was my introduction to The Alan Parson's Project. The drummer in my band was my best buddy, and we had, of course, flipped out over "Dark Side of the Moon" by Floyd. So we when read that the engineer for that record had recorded a concept album about Poe (my favorite author) AND WE FOUND OUT he used the members of Ambrosia (a band we fell in love with after hearing their debut album) I immediately went to my favorite record store and ordered it. We must have played it 10 times in a row that night, stoned out of our gourds. From that point until the release of "Eye in the Sky" in 1982, I was at my record store the day Parson's dropped a new release, grabbing a copy and rushing home to my turntable. My favorite Parson's albums are the first three -- "Tales of Mystery...", "I Robot", and "Pyramid". An amazing stretch of releases.
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