Help with TT for my System


Hello, and thank you in advance for your time and sharing your expertise: my system is a VAC Phi 200 in two - channel mode, and a VAC Standard preampsifier, which I found used and sent it to the factory to have an MC phono preamp added to it. According to Kevin Hayes, he fitted the best MC preamp he had ever included in one of these with an output of around 0.35mu. I also own a near new Ortofon Cadenza Bronze cartridge, and my speakers are a pair of Sonus Faber Guarneri Evolutions. My connections are a totally different subject. I would like to spend around $4K  or less on a used or new turntable, with ease of operation due to my age. All the best, Ken

ckenr

Are you talking about actually using the TT, or doing a setup of all the different angles? A good dealer should set tthe TT up before they send it to you. If you are planning on using your current cartridge, you'll probably have to send it to the dealer. 

@052rc - I know someone locally who'd hang the cartridge as a favor, but is hesitant to recommend any specific brand. That's why I am open to buying a used turntable. 

For 4K go for the technics 1200G. Pretty tough to beat until you get north of 10K.

@ckenr You have a Cartridge, which created a situation where the Tonearm that is recognised as very good partnering with the Cartridge can be looked into.

The Tonearm might cost you between $1K - $2.5K depending on New or Used Model.

A TT to suit the Tonearm will not be a real challenge to find one, and need not be silly expensive to supply a very good Musical Experience.

Forum Member @mulveling is more than qualified to comment on the C' Bronze, and has quite an experience with TT's and Possibly Tonearms.

In the UK a VAC Amp is very rarely found in use, and within my local HiFi Group there is a VAC Phi Beta 110i and VAC 170i.  

+1 Technics TT as easiest set and forget with great Sonics

Another option Mofi Untradeck

Thank you all very much! The consensus points to an SL-1200G. From a posting on YouTube, I think I'll bite the bullet and spend some money on a pair of solid silver interconnects also. I am already very happy with this choice.

Enjoy your music!

 

I would probably try the Technics also, but I’m surprised no one mentioned Rega as an option, since you mentioned your reluctance for setup, as their turntables are all plug and play, with no adjustments for tonearm or cartridge.  

@ckenr The Option for the Technics will do you no harm, with this Model referred to there is a Tonearm supplied.

There does remain the Option for a Alternate Headshell and an Open Mind on which Material / Material + Weight is also worth consideration.

I use a 9 Gram AT MS 9 with Ortofon Cart's. 

I also use a Japanese DD TT. 

@drbond: I think my price point and the ease of operation requirement have excluded a lot of brands. I sold my Well-tempered Amadeus because I could no longer bend over, maintain a good balance, and correctly aim the stylus on the record. Initially, I was going to ask for just an arm, and then find a record spinner to match it., but the least resistant course of action seems to be the closest thing to a plug and play. I have to listen to my body also! 

 

@pindac: thank you for the confirmation and suggesting the headshell. I happen to live around the corner from Blue Jeans Cables. I should be able to try out a few of their products to find the optimum sound.

I own a Signature 21 so am biased toward VPI Industries. Put me in the fanboy category that recommends what they own so take that into consideration.

I traded in a VPI Prime at Gig Harbor Audio they may not have sold . If you are in the Seattle area and don’t mind a nice drive, they have a fun store to visit. It has a uni-pivot arm that sounds just as good as my current preference, a gimbal arm. I find a gimbal arm easier to handle.

I have heard nothing but good things about Technics and agree that would be a solid choice.

I used a Ortofon Cadenza Bronze cartridge on the VPI Prime and still use it on my Signature 21. I do like to buy from USA companies like VPI though, and they have models at price points from $1,500 and up. You can even call and talk to or email the owners for advice and recommendations.

I don't see your VPI on GHA's used gear page. I will contact them on Monday. Meanwhile, the sl1200g on A/G in Utah has sold, and I have made an offer for a used anniversary SL-1200G in Los Angeles from a seller who is reluctant to ship. I have also checked the Hi-Fi shark website, and for some reason it is not picking up what's on USAM and A/G.

Just bought an open box 1200g from Music Direct for $3,440 plus tax. Guarantees to be better than new. I'll be thinking of you all when I'll be listening to it - it'd better be good!

Better Start Cleaning the Vinyl Source Material, prepare for success.

Better Start considering how the TT's support structure and how the TT is to be mounted on a Support Structure? Prepare for Success 

The Five 'P's' are one friend. 

I have also ordered KAB's liquid damper after reading (skimming, rather} a very long review in these pages. The person who'll be hanging the cartridge is also of the opinion that the damping kit should ameliorate and resonance issue with the factory provided headshell,  and I should not spend any additional money on a different one.

 

I miss my Teppaz!

The advice is certainly going to produce music as a End Sound in any configuration, Damper - No Damper - Factory Headshell

To suggest that a Headshell is not to be exchanged is very opinionated and very limited to what can be experienced and more importantly what can be attained. 

There is the individual, who has their own unique preferences for how an End Sound being produced is able to impresses them.

A simplistic method to make investigative inroads to learning is a exchange of a Headshell, where for multiples of individuals, this as a method has proven to be a substantial step towards attaining the End Sound experience that really satisfies.

Is the expert advising on the TT Support Structure and how the TT is mounted on it?    

If you're going to invest that much in a turntable, a better headshell can certainly be a good investment if you have a resolving system, which it appears you do. It appears that the 1200G headshell includes one important feature that many headshells don't - azimuth adjustment.  Having said that, a headshell that handles resonance well and has better connectors and wiring can make a difference.  I personally like the LP Gear Zupreme headshells, which are made by Jelco.