Full circle and thinking about speakers
My first thought while reading your post was how far your speakers are from the front wall; a small adjustment in distance can make a big difference in bass response - you've probably already done this but I thought I would mention it. You don't mention which Schiit DAC. Consider your DAC and streamer selections. You said, "At times the highs are glaringly high and when I expect there to be gobs of bass, there just isn't any to speak of." Glare is an issue I've had with a few DACs and I had to spend more on a better DAC to get the results I wanted. Since you indicated the DAC and streamer were "placeholders," perhaps that may be the best place to spend that $2000. (Or part of it, anyway.) I would try to audition a few DACS in your system. You may be pleased with the results both at the high end with less glare and by the better bass response. Good luck!! Tom |
@tomic601 a Lyra Delos. Thanks - it already sounds awesome @oldhvymec will keep sensitivity in mind. @russ69 I’m learning - every effects everything else @howaboutthat41 I’ll have a look at the Fritz @millercarbon - I apprecviate your input to the magnepan recommendations, they are gorgeous! but 3’ feet into the room is just not going to happen. Besides my daughter just said: DAD! Enough! LOL Anyone for Focal floor standing? Thanks everyone - |
The Fritz do get down to 36hz +/-3db, which is pretty impressive, especially for a standmount. Here is something else to ponder: https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/649702072-spendor-s5e-floorstanders/. There is also a set of Spendor 2/3s on the Canuck Mart site for just under $3,000 CAD, but with the currency exchange rate and perhaps an entertained offer, who know what one might get them for. If I did not just get a set of Harbeths, I already would have bought those. |
High sensitivity speaker can have a VERY high floor noise, they pick up every issue and let you know about it.. 92-3 is very high. AND as high as I'll go.. It just leaves NO room for valve noise or a cable being just a little to close to a PS or PCs. Try getting 105, quiet like older horns, older valve gear and so so cables. It will make you want to change brands... QUICK... Regards |
I'm a big Magnepan fan. I believe they have class leading loudspeakers in every price range. However I only recommend them to serious audiophiles because they demand you place them way out into the room and they may need mega power to really sing. I have two pairs right now but I also have two dedicated listening rooms. |
ad hominem means against the man. My attacks are against the ideology. That you cannot differentiate and think it is all about you is but another aspect of this. In your case it is so deeply ingrained you seem unable to function even slightly outside of it. Like when you say you will let it pass without further comment, after you get your dig in! Mighty big of you. Kind of thing one would do if they were virtue signaling (you're offensive, but look how good I am!) or narcissistic (world revolves around you) or then again it could all be just your garden variety lack of reasoning and reading skills. Everything in the marketplace is after all competing with everything else. So this adds nothing. Less than nothing, actually, since you water it down with "potentially". Remember I did ask you to stop. If you keep getting beat up, maybe just stay down. |
There are scores of terrific speaker manufacturers out there. Depending on the model and one's inclinations or preferences, B&W is one of them. Magnepan is worthy, also, but, like Tektons, may not appeal to everyone for any number of legitimate reasons. My wont is to make affirmative suggestions to folks like the OP without directly or implicitly discouraging particular brands. |
@hombre heard you the 1st time around. .Can they stand alone or do they need a subwoofer? Interesting speaker - Looking at them now https://www.magnepan.com/model_lrs |
millercarbon, I will allow your ad hominem offensiveness to pass without further comment, but the remark about someone having a "market nailed down" seemed rather plainly to indicate what I inferred earlier, If not, my mistake, along with your implicit acknowledgment that there are other potentially worthy compeittors in that market. |
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Ahh yes, the crime of being enthusiastic about that which is good, while helping others avoid that which is not. Oh, the humanity! But wait- where did I say Tekton has a "major slice" of anything nailed down? If you cannot argue a point without distorting the other fellows position, that is more often than not indicative of having taken a weak position. Or weak reasoning skills. Or poor reading comprehension. Take your pick. |
There are multitudes of terrific speakers with sensitivity at or below 91, so I suggest you ignore millercarbon's tired, pedantic, and self-admittedly arbitrary cutoff. Oh, and B&W and Wilson make some great speakers. He also relishes in pushing Tekton at every opportunity, so perhaps factor that into your calculus (as if anyone has a major slice of the market "nailed down," ... good grief). Nevertheless, Tekton does have many fans and some good critical reviews, so may be worth considering. |
91dB is just below my (admittedly arbitrary) cutoff of 92dB. In any case you definitely want higher. No idea why audiophiles don’t pay more attention to this. Every time I read one of these posts where the guy is searching for the "right amp to mate with blah blah blah" the first thing I do is search and after a while I am no longer surprised when sure enough it always turns out they are low sensitivity speakers. So save yourself a whole lot of grief and look for ones around 95 and up. Do this one simple thing and you will find almost every amp 20 watts and up works just fine. And there are some mighty fine sounding amps in that range and very affordable too. Recommending speakers used to be really hard because they are all so very different. Then engineering and design improved so much the lower end where all the crap was has elevated up a lot. Now as long as you avoid some of the old school offenders like B&W, Wilson, et al, it is pretty easy. Especially in your price range where Eric Alexander has that market nailed down. Search around Tekton, look for something in your price range, keep in mind whatever you select will be so much better than expected your only regret may be not stretching for even more, order and enjoy! |
You may also want to consider these: https://www.jbl.com/speakers/STUDIO+590.html?dwvar_STUDIO%20590_color=Black-USA-Support&cgid=spe... Fritz speakers look nice but are all bookshelf designs, I believe. You might not want a really low sensitivity (or 4 ohm load) speaker unless you have a powerful amp. The rest you just handle with the volume control. |
I have seen several examples on this site and USAudiomart (as well as eBay) of ProAc, Totem, Spendor, and similar high-quality, smaller floorstanders (towers) that might fit in the $2,000.00, or so range. If you are seeking more bass, you either need a subwoofer with standmount/bookshelf speakers or else go with a floorstanding model. Condo living suggests you do not need a larger floorstander. |
It's really hard to suggest loudspeakers to someone because there is a lot of personal preference to this buying decision. Find a speaker brand that you like then move down the line to see if the characteristics you like are still there in a lower price model. You will have more choices in the 3 grand per pair segment. |
