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Been a long time now saying no one will ever DIY anywhere near as good as what you can buy already made. Never in a million years. Well, I have been proven wrong.

Not like I shouldn’t have known better. I Met both Caelin Gabriel and Ted Denney around 1992, back when they were not that far from being DIY’ers themselves. So it is not so much that it can’t be done, as it is just astronomically unlikely.

Okay, well so anyway that’s what I was saying, good luck you will never do it. Someone decided to call me on it, and took the unusual step of sending me a power cord to hear for myself.

This first one I got, we will call him Mr Black. I was actually quite surprised how good it was. Real solid imaging, spread across a sound stage nice and deep and wide, with plenty of dynamics and gobs of detail and extension. Only problem, no bass, the sound overall was thin and the top end extension a little too much. I let it burn in playing CD hoping it would warm up and round out but it never did get there. Captivating as the sound stage was the lack of bass and body eventually got too much and I moved it aside. Figured oh well not bad for DIY went back to my old Shunyata and sort of forgot about it.

Until he checks back, we get to talking, and he drops the bomb, “Yeah I was going for real good imaging with that one. I have much better now, way better.” Really??!?! “Would you be interested in evaluating?” Would I?!?!

So I get these two power cords, we will call them Mr White and Mr Silver. Mr White looks exactly like the first one, except white not black. Mr Silver is thinner and stiffer, almost too thin to be your typical audiophile type power cord. With nothing else to go by I decide to start with Mr White.

Right away, and I mean immediately, this thing is impressive as can be. All the great 3D imaging, incredible speed and resolution of Mr Black, only Mr White is superbly balanced top to bottom. This has me pretty gaga, not least because this is straight out of the box. It was late, I was pressed for time, just thought what the hell might as well get this over with. But now I am sitting here trying to understand how any power cord - let alone one some guy made at home - can be doing this to my system.

Couple days later I am calling and being told yeah, friend had a Nordost Odin 2 to compare and this is at least as good. ? I have never heard Nordost Odin, 1 or 2, but by now I am finding it hard to argue.

What am I hearing, with 10 maybe 20 hours on it? The Holy Grail of audio, at least as far as I’m concerned, is infinite speed with zero edge. Nothing really does this. Everything super fast always winds up being etched, or hard, or thin, or hyped, or anything other than what I want which is full and round and balanced AND light speed fast. My ears are sensitive to glare and so forced to choose I will take full and round and balanced over fast. It is just a more enjoyable listening experience. All the best components in my view capture both of these sort of conflicting goals. Tekton does, with electrostat speed combined with big box fullness. Townshend does, improving perceived speed by lowering the noise floor while eliminating ringing. Herron, Koetsu- pretty much everything in my system is oriented along these lines.

Mr White is pushing on the edge of this envelope. It is even smoother and fuller now, but without losing any of the initial speed.

I actually had these before the F1 came but held off writing about them partly out of respect for Max Townshend, who is actually running a business, and also partly because it is just kind of hard to believe the darn thing really is this good. Thought maybe with the F1, which are even cleaner and more revealing than Synergistic CTS, maybe it might reveal some problems with Mr White. He is after all home-brew. Cannot possibly have the thorough vetting of a “professional” product.

But no, both these truly exceptional lengths of wire are fine together. So fine I was reluctant to try Mr Silver. Unable to comprehend how he could be better, unwilling to listen to anything less. I get spoiled fast! 😍 But I put him in there and at first thought he might be even better. But it was just the impressively palpable presence and solid stage. After a while it was clear Mr Silver is not as superbly effortlessly detailed and fast as Mr White. Not quite as good bass either. Bear in mind the bass we are talking about being "not quite as good as" is really, really exceptionally good! The main difference between the two is a bit of glare.

But when I say glare, this has to be taken in context. I never, ever thought of my Moabs as having any glare. Until they were on Podiums, at which point they were- comparatively. The glare wasn’t the Moabs, it was the ringing, now eliminated by the Podiums. Synergistic CTS never seemed to have any glare or grain- until compared with Townshend F1. Same kind of thing, a ringing that presented as a hard edge or glare is gone now, and for the better. Mr Silver is indeed a fine power cord in its own right. Just not up to the exalted level of Mr White. I suspect few, if any, are.
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$10k power cord feeding a $2200 integrated, or am I wrong? What a ridiculous use of those funds. Enjoy!
Lots of arrogant and rude comments here.

  @millercarbon is having some fun, being himself, adding some humor, and making a message about audio gear.     Yet there are always those who must always put down and be negative.     I need to use some expensive power cords and see if I can hear a difference. 
     Personally, if the power cords are silver and of very high quality, there may be a difference,...
 if they are standard power cords, I would not expect any audible difference.    As most homes as mentioned are ran with 16ga or higher from the fuse box to the wall outlets, with runs of hundreds of feet to the upstairs rooms, and far rooms through walls and ceiling runs.    Hard to believe a mere 2-4 foot power cord fed by this 100+ feet of 20ga electrical wire can make a difference.
    I will need to try to believe.

    Was I negative?
:)  ;)


  I enjoy miller’s posts, 
  
In defense of my post: I’m sharing my opinion, like you, ARTICDETH, except mine isn’t that there’s a chance he’s correct here with the power cords he’s selling. It’s that hearing Miller Carbon’s Evangelical opinions on EVERYTHING are what ruin the positivity of the rest of the forum. The source of the negativity, I say, is him calling everyone who disagrees with him a moron. Every time. 
It got to the point that I quit coming around the “Carbontologist Compound.” I know, don’t let the door hit me. Do some basic inferencing. It’s 2021 and we’re on the internet. If this gets posted, then MC ISN’T the owner/moderator of AG and he’s just a chronic contributor. If it doesn’t, at least I know to stop barking up this tree. Seeing as MC is now suddenly a comment section fascist who is “making lists,” maybe that’s for the best.
I’ll just take my business elsewhere.
Lots of arrogant and rude comments here.

5 words:

"You reap what you sow"

Cheers!

6 now actually...

whoops now 9.....help
One day out of the blue someone said, "Hey if I send you something would you listen to it?" Just like that. I was flabbergasted. "Well of course. But why?"

Because you seem to be a good listener and are really good at explaining to people how things work.  

For years all I ever did was bash people who think they can DIY wire as good as the pro's. I have lambasted this no end. One day some guy says, "Hey I know you don't think DIY is any good but if I sent you mine would you listen to it?" So the first one wasn't much good but the next two he sent me, wow!

There's actually quite a few more examples I won't go into right now. Point I want to make, the people getting their kicks bashing me, many of them are on a little list I created to help me keep track of all the greatest waste of space offensive creatures on the site. They don't like me, I don't like them. I am okay with that.

Just one thing. People are sending me stuff, really good stuff too, simply because I have demonstrated skills and credibility- and integrity. How many of you on my Hateful 18 list can say that? The one directly above is a charter member, I know for sure no one cares what he has to say- about anything.

So maybe it is true, you really do reap what you sow.
People often offer to send me stuff to try too. Maybe more than anyone including you MC.

I seldom accept.

Why?

I only do it if it is something of interest to me and that I would buy at asking price if it pans out. I’m not going to yank peoples chains about any product I have not paid the asking price for myself. Also I am not interested in handouts especially ones that come with strings attached....you either keep quiet, endorse it, or get razzed by the shills. Not worth it to me.
The crazy thing about living rent free in someone's head, even after you get tired of the mess and droning and leave they still think you are there. Oh well.
Seems like there's a outbreak of Millercarbon Deranged Syndrome. For those in fear, please take the vaccine,
go into lockdown mode and double up on the mask. Or Just don't watch, like CNN. You will be in a better place.
Some of us have acquired immunity  Not scared of being infected by independent thought. No need for protection from audio justice warriors .

Why the anger. It's supposed to be fun. Life's too short. Peace out.
"...because I have demonstrated skills and credibility- and integrity. How many of you on my Hateful 18 list can say that?"
You may not want to know the answer. It may be humiliating.

Nobody ever sends me anything. May it be because I do not advertise my address?
What’s inside people’s heads? Some angels if you are lucky ( no not Mike Trout). The angels live inside me: I can feel them smile,Their presence strokes and soothes the tempest in my mind
And their love can heal the wounds that I have wrought.
They watch me as I go to fall, well, I know I shall be caught,For the angels live!
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Another interesting thing about the Hateful 18 list, reviewing it as I did just now it is striking how many are no longer around. Some because they were banned. Others shunned. Still others so pathological they reappear under different names. There is a johnnystereobuyer on there, he is gone. Now there is a johnnyaudiogoon, and what a delightfully apt name it is but- join the list. To be ignored forevermore.

As much fun as it has been slamming some of you waste of spacers, I find such sport is taking away from time for actual serious real audiophiles. Not to mention sentient human beings. So while I do enjoy slamming, you really are time wasters. Keeping the list has saved me a good deal of time, anyone on there I no longer read anything you post. Seriously. You do not exist in my world. I mean that literally. My world is actual audiophiles. Those I have all the time in the world for. Just ask any of the many I have consulted with and helped. Or better yet, don’t. They are good people, I wouldn’t wish you on my worst enemy.

All good things must come to an end. I will continue the list. As new waste of spacers come along they will be duly added. I just won’t bother letting anyone know. And with that, Cheerio!
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@ mapman

You are welcome to buy the power cords and then you can post out of knowledge like MC not imagination. I am giving you 30 day money back guarantee.
millercarbon,

"Another interesting thing about the Hateful 18 list, reviewing it as I did just now it is striking how many are no longer around."

I am still around. Still trying to make you a better person than you present yourself as. Still trying to make you be grateful to those people who checked on you every hour, or whatever number of hours, throughout the night while exposing themselves to your viruses. You know, those you called morons and were insulting here more than once. How often did your mother check on you every night? Not once an hour. Those people did. Your lively personality called them morons. You hid while your peers were risking their lives. You never volunteered your skills.

Let me know what unit you were admitted to. I will send them a thank you note with Edible Arrangments. They deserve it and the snake sitting on your wallet would never let you do it.
I’m welcome to buy the power cords?

Gee thanks. But no thanks. I’ll leave it to MC.  Did he buy them?
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As entertaining as some of the commenters are, still I am sure I speak for many when I say, better off without.   

Mr Silver it turns out is now Nova. The dazzling Mr White is now called Supernova. Both to be produced by bewgow under the name moneoone, pronounced M101, as in M101 The Pinwheel Galaxy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinwheel_Galaxy

A bit grand perhaps but Supernova is a pretty grand power cord.

There is kind of a history here, for anyone not so triggered they have lost all connection with reality. The record is not made up, it is there, albeit buried somewhere back in a few of my nearly 9k posts. Still, unlike some others everything I say is factual, not weasely innuendo, and a lot of it can be checked out.

Like, there was my review of the Herron VTPH2A phono stage. I heard about this here, which goes to show this site has value even in spite of the many spewing constant hate and blather. We sift through it, we find the gems. The Herron being one of the gems.

Did not know it at the time, but Keith told me later mine was to be one of the last. The way Keith does it, in order to keep costs down and prices reasonable he has to buy a production run worth of parts. Some of these are generic and can be used in other products but a lot like the chassis and boards are specific to the phono stage. This is a huge investment that takes a long time to recoup and he was planning on this being the last one.

But then my review came out, and Keith’s wife said maybe you should keep doing this? Keith told me my review was a big factor in his deciding to continue for one more run. I got a PM just the other day thanking me, because since I mentioned Keith was just about sold out of his final run, this lucky audiophile was able to buy the very last one.

I say this not to brag about my influence, but to make a much more serious, one might even say poignant point. The things we say on a forum like this, they have real life consequences. Normal people know this, but a lot don’t and this is for you.

You may think you are bashing me. Right. As if I care what you think. There’s a reason I don’t respond: I don’t care! What I do care about are the people you affect with the bilge you spew.

There are plenty of good people out there. Some trying to learn. Some trying to share what they have learned. Some trying to make a living, somehow, in this microscopic little market niche. Some of them just trying to put together a music system they can enjoy.

And yes, some of them maybe even trying to start a new business.

None of this is easy. Heck even what I am doing, took two years solid writing, polishing, trying different things, having to persevere even in the face of some of the most despicable people, who would never dare behave the way they do in public but feel just fine doing it on-line. So, in other words, cowards.

But like I said this is not about me. This is about all those other people just trying to get along.

If you don’t like what we’re doing, well nobody ever said you have to be here. Move along. Please.
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If I may offer a constructive criticism:
I would consider changing the name. It does not make good business sense.


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justintimberlakefangirl90013 posts04-22-2021 10:24amjust a reminder, millercarbon, ted denny, and majority of synergestic research clients are scientoligists in the los angeles area. ted denny is cut of the cloth of run L hubbard
Report thismapman18,881 posts04-22-2021 10:39amScientologists? Is that true? Would explain a lot.
Wow, I joked a little about it being Scientology linked way back.
Now there’s more angling that way for an explanation of the "snake oil".

And it looks as though all Ted Denney’s threads and posts here have now all been shut down, and he hasn’t posted since they have, he got his just desserts, now all that's left are his disciple's.  All I can say is, thank the real god out there!

Cheers George
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You can’t make this stuff up. Just sell it for $10k on Audiogon. Needs some marketing work. No thanks. Over and out.
If I may also offer a constructive criticism:
I would consider offering free shipping ($50 value) with $10 000 1.5 meter power cord. It does not make good business sense to nickle and dime at that level.
MC, thank you for the post.

I will unfollowing this discussion as it has degregated to anything other than a discussion of a power cable.

I favor free exchange of ideas in the spirit and manner of mutual respect between free thinking individuals consistent with our God given rights of free speech, free thought and respectful dissent.

If you have another discovery to share, feel free to pm me. You may put me on that list.
MC explained how they sound very well.

MC knows ****, he’s also a voodooist, as the thread heading says, he’s just like the other Ted Denney SR disciple here, just like other used car and real estate sales men

Cheers George
Against my better judgment, I’ll chime in with a thought on all this. Please allow me to preface it with this:

I am a firm believer in the benefits of a good power cord. I am also a firm believer in what a DIY’er can achieve. Been there, done that; although not with power cords. I understand the inordinate amount of time that some of these DIY projects require. Additionally, interaction style issues aside, I don’t believe MC is a “voodooist”. I have disagreed with him on a few occasions (am I one of the 18?😱) and the audio related experiences that he has described in some of his posts mirror mine. Personally, I often find the obsessive criticism of what he writes and reaction to his style every bit, if not more, distasteful than most of what I have read written by him (can’t say I have read every one of his posts). I think that his willingness to spread the word of a potentially great product and help the creator in the process is commendable. Lastly, some might call me frugal to a fault while I prefer to think of myself as cautious with my hard earned dollars. So, what is my point? (assuming anyone cares ☺️):

A DIY’er with a relatively short history as a member of this community and without one single feedback (never mind positive feedback) would like me to consider sending him $10,000 (!) for his DIY power cord with only the endorsement of one of our august community members as reassurance that the transaction will not go awry. Really?! I sincerely wish him luck in this endeavor, but it seems to me that he has to do better in this regard in order to drum up interest in his product.
@frogman

You have many good points. I do not have a feedback and that is precisely why the first transaction is going to be so important, right. You think that I want to sell one power cord and be done.
Good review does nothing much everyone sort of expects good review. Bad review is going to be destructive, right.
Thanks for your response, bewgow.

**** You think that I want to sell one power cord and be done. ****

Not at all! I assumed that you would like to sell many. Besides, you have already received your first review; and an extremely positive one at that. Or, am I to assume that MC will not be purchasing your power cord? He could be your first official positive feedback.  With your 30 day money back guarantee there is reason to receive a negative feedback.....if you honor the guarantee.  Every upstart goes through a similar process and is subject to similar uncertainty.

Good luck. I wish you success.