Do speaker cables need a burn in period?


I have heard some say that speaker cables do need a 'burn in', and some say that its totally BS.
What say you?


128x128gawdbless
If it sounds wrong the first time, it will continue to sound wrong, unless youโ€™re some kind of nihilist or defeatist, or your name is eeyore.

I'm adding this so as to not confuse anyone: cables do break in and it's not your ears getting used to them.

All the best,
Nonoise
jetter,

"...it is our ears adjusting to the new and different sound, not the sound itself changing."
How are our ears adjusting to a different sound if the sound itself is not changing?
There is only the merest chance he has the same amp as me, but highly unlikely. I will never know.
gawdbless said: "My Audioquest speaker cables were purchased used, so i am guessing that they are already broken in. So far, all the responses are in agreement that they do need time to settle down, whereas from what I have read elsewhere there were more nays than yays. I thought I would ask a proper hi-fi community the question. Thanks for all your replies."
Speaker wire burn-in in amplifier specific. So, unless the prior owner used the same make and model amp as you, the cables will act (and sound) like new.
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Note that I hear what we refer to as cable burn in.ย  However, I am in the camp that it is our ears adjusting to the new and differentย sound, not the sound itself changing.

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Do cables need burn in?

Depends on your standards of evidence.

If audiophile anecdote is good enough for you, then yes they "need" burn in.

But by this same standard of evidence you'll find people who say everything needs burn in, and every tweak works, and everything makes a difference.ย 

So, it's your time and money.

Maybe you can start with a cable cooker ;-)
>>Speaking of different approaches you ought to consider trying some, you know other than your usual bland blah blah blah. No offense.
geoffkait,

You do have a talent. The only one you have, it seems. Your posts are frequently exact words that others would tell you. You know yourself well and project.

I cannot try some other approach than usual bland blah blah blah. Had you not put the request for "no offense", I could try. This way, you limit my honesty.
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geoffkait,your posts don't offense me.ย  your spool of wire does though.
Kitty, how many times have you repeated the groundless diagnosis?

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No offense.
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Geoffkait,If I were to ask you to make a directional wire for me how would you do it? For example, I want a wire that measure higher resistance from A - B, and lower from B - A, what manufacturing technique would you use? (Alien technology is not allowed).

Donโ€™t worry, itโ€™s not alien technology. Itโ€™s not rocket science, either. Itโ€™s super easy. Hereโ€™s how you do it. This is how the big boys do it. Donโ€™t tell anybody. This is very hush, hush. When the big old spool of wire is delivered from the wire manufacturer, take a length of wire - keeping track of the start and end of the wire by marking it. Then, construct a digital cable that requires *only one* cable/wire. Then insert the cable into the system and evaluate which direction sounds best. Or you can bipass fuse with a small length of the wire that you marked. Then listen both ways. Voila! Then you will know how to CONTROL DIRECTIONALITY for the rest of the giant spool of wire. Problem solved. You can also instruct the manufacturer to wrap the wire on the giant spool as it comes off the final die. Now all interconnects, speaker cables, power cords, tonearm wires, HDMI cables, etc. can be easily constructed so that arrows will show the correct direction.ย 
Geoffkait,If I were to ask you to make a directional wire for me how would you do it?ย  For example, I want a wire that measure higher resistance from A - B, and lower from B - A, what manufacturing technique would you use?ย  (Alien technology is not allowed).
Andy,
Are you always this serious?
Maybe time to return to the regular scheduled programming - debating cables :-)
@geoffkait
Yes, I have rolled up my sleeves and investigated aftermarket fuses of several varieties and directionality of those fuses. Bottom line is that I do not perceive differences between those aftermarket fuses and my typical Littelfuse or Bussmann fuses (I do however perceive differences in SQ between cables, so go figure).

>>>>Let me get this straight. You perceive differences in directionality of cables? Or just differences between cables? What are you trying to say?

Most of those aftermarket fuses are still in my gear and I have no reason to remove them since I own them, they work, and they donโ€™t seem to make things sound worse.

Were the aftermarket inserted in the correct direction? If you canโ€™t hear directionality and if you canโ€™t hear the difference between fuses one assumes half of them are still in the wrong direction. No wonder you canโ€™t hear any differences. Thatโ€™s what I mean by trying to get to the bottom of things. Obviously youโ€™d rather stick to your guns.

My own trials and observations of those fuses and common sense related to the length of a fuse wire compared to the many signal traces, electrical parts, and feet of wire present in most equipment are what has led me to be skeptical of what others report hearing. However, for clarity, I do not question what they hear, just the reasons why. Also, unlike some others, I am fine with this difference of opinion and feel no need to change anyone elseโ€™s mind.

>>>>Weโ€™ve already addressed the copper traces on printed circuit boards. They arenโ€™t directional. But all the other wires are. That is part of why you canโ€™t hear directionality. Obviously I canโ€™t know all the reasons why you donโ€™t get good results while many tens of thousands of others do get good results.