DAC Advice - Benchmark DAC 3


Hello Everyone. I am seeking advice. I am rebuilding my audio system after kids and space limitations. I have (being shipped soon) the Benchmark amp AHB2. I currently have old SF Concerto stand mounted bookshelf speakers which I plan to replace. Have not decided on the new speakers yet. I want/need a DAC. I am hard leaning to the Benchmark DAC3.

I need balanced output. I need analog input so I can tie it into my home theater system. I like the idea of a single item with volume control build in and different selectable inputs. I like the idea that it will be very compatible with the amp by the same company. I like benchmark as a company/group - I was able to call the company and speak to someone who was super helpful. I like the size as it fits my space well. I want a neutral DAC (and amp) that does not color the sound. I am not a super audiophile - I just want some solid gear that does not get in the way of the music that will last a long time - my hearing is not perfect nor is my room.

Since this DAC fits with what I need, any reasons that I should not buy this DAC? I just wanted to check with some experts before finally deciding so I don’t mess up. Thank you.

 

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If you like the neutral sound of Benchmark DAC3 you should check out a couple other FPGA DACs - Audiobyte Hydravox and TEAC UD-701N. I like the TEAC, it is neutral with just a touch of sweetness that prevents it from sounding clinical. 

You'll want the Benchmark DAC3 since it outputs +24 dBu from the balanced connection. This means you can use the AHB2 in low gain, which in turn reduces noise and maximizes the performance of the AHB2.

 

I've used the DAC3 HGC with the AHB2 and it sounds phenomenal. I currently have the HPA4 with a DAC3 B in my system. The HPA4 is a little more convenient because I can easily set the volume between movies and music due to the discrete volume control / display. The DAC3 HGC is now part of a headphone system on my desk.

I decided to update my DAC 1 PRE, and since I don't buy new, I picked up a DAC 3 HG, which I'm enjoying very much.

Do not buy the DAC if you want to use as a volume control. Get the DAC3B (no volume control) and buy the LA4 preamp (or HPA4). The LA4 will make the DAC sound better. That seems weird to add more signal path for cleaner sound but it will work like that with this ultra clean preamp.

I sold a $7.5K DAC so that I can buy a 2nd LA4 preamp for my new Livingroom system. If you want a clean sound the LA4 will deliver. The DAC3 with volume is not great at low volume.

My office system is LA4 and 2 AHB2's. I also have a DAC3B but I have that on my tube headphone amp. I use a Musetec 005 DAC with the LA4 + AHB2. I have a second Musetec 005 DAC that I will pair with my second LA4 preamp for my new Livingroom system. I am sold on that combo.

I do like the all Benchmark stack DAC3B | LA4 | AHB2, but the very smooth Musetec 005 is a nice touch over the slightly brighter DAC3B.


 

 

 

Sorry, had my head where the sun don't shine, my dac is the Benchmark DAC 3 DX, not the HG I reported it as.

The Old Fart

I made a mistake. I should have stated. I sold a $7.5K PREAMP to get another LA4 preamp. I never go DAC direct to amp when the LA4 to amp is better (for $2.5K)

@yyzsantabarbara "The DAC3 with volume is not great at low volume".

Super Interesting you mention that point. I had a DAC3B here for a few weeks, and while it had a nice dark and quiet background, huge sound stage, I just could not get use to the sound of it, and low-volume listening (even with my own separate preamp that does well with other DACs just fine), the DAC3B never quite gel’d with me. Was kinda shocked.  Could never figure out why. Maybe just preference. Who knows. I called Benchmark and asked them many questions, and if it needed more run in time. They said no, and were seemingly offended at my observations of what sounded like plain sound to me. Weird.

Its a super high quality very well made unit. I reluctantly returned the unit. Wanted to keep it, argh. Tested fine too, no issues with the unit.

I went back to my NOS R2R ladder dac with more distortion and engaging musicality. It was like "ahhh the music is back", there it is. Still wondering what else I could have tried with DAC3B. Maybe someday I’ll give it a do-over demo, to see what I missed.

@decooney Interesting observation. It is either preference or lack of synergy with the gear you were using. 

The DAC3B is a little 'hot' on top. I can tell that by listening on my uber revealing SR1a headphone, It is fatiguing on that gear with 2-channel. That is with the LA4 preamp and CODA 07x preamp. No issue with low volume though.

However, put the DAC3B on my tube RAAL VM-1a headphone amp and the sound is magic. The headphone amp is sort of an integrated amp in the sense it has preamp and amp built-in.

 

I had DAC 3 HGC. Running it into my amplifier direct did not sound nearly as good as running it into my preamp first (both Pass Labs). I don’t know how it will integrate with other benchmark pieces, I suspect it will be on. However in my experience there is no substitute for a good active linestage.

Yes the analog inputs are a nice feature and overall it’s a very nice DAC. I enjoyed while I had it. 

I remember being at a trade show a long time ago and everyone was crowded around the DAC 1.   I think that was the product that really made DAC / Headphone amp combos a huge segment of HiFi