If we ever get through all this craziness and Axpona kicks back up meet me on the second floor at the bar. I’m buying the first round. Stay safe friends.
Ivermectin is being used in over 50 countries to treat Covid. The FDA is pushing vaccines and Remdesivir.... Remdesivir was found in 2016 Ebola trials to have about a 30% Renal Failure induced fatality rate, over the other 3 drugs being used. The Analysis was so alarming that they stopped using it in the middle of the trials.....LET THAT SINK IT FOR A MINUTE. Remdesivir has been standard protocol for covid hospitalized patients since the beginning of the pandemic, and it is not FDA approved. It is being used under EUA. The worst outcome for covid hospitalization in the entire world is in.........yes the good ol US of A. (Not Africa, Not Afhanistan) but the United States of America. https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa1910993
mahgister I find your propensity for endless irrelevant invective tiresome.
Compare your last ten posts with mine...
After that count all the arguments in the text.... Compare the 2 numbers ... I will easily win about the relevance of facts...I really think that my arguments are right but i apologize if i am tiresome....I could be tiresome, you are right....
And you are right , i am a passionate subject and sometimes EVEN with my arguments i may use what seems to be an "invective " or i would say an abrasive tone.... I think i dont invectivate but i could be tiresome and abrasive yes.....You are right....
I apologize to you sincerely and to all here....It is not personal....
But in the times we live on, people die .... Truth matter....
It really is. I think this is exactly how Galileo felt when the science of his time was settled, and people made jokes at his expense instead of looking at the evidence. The hubris pouring out of some of the posters here is caustic to the Human soul. Gives me Shivers.
The head researcher of Pfizer, on live TV, admitted that they gave the placebo group the vaccines, half
way through the trial. That this had become a humanitarian issue, and keeping the vaccine from these people
was no longer ethical.
He SAID THIS ON LIVE TV. They got rid of the control group.
I don't trust anything these people have to say about controlled trials of this vaccine. They are Liars of the highest magnitude, and are committing outright fraud.
I’ll try to find the video. YouTube has been mass deleting everything...... to protect us all.
" Tens of thousands of people who volunteered to be in studies of the Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines are still participating in follow-up research. But some key questions won’t be easily answered, because many people who had been in the placebo group have now opted to take the vaccine."
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Mott was one of about 650 volunteers who took the experimental Moderna vaccine at a company called Johnson County Clinical Trials in Lenexa, Kan. Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine.
"During that visit we discussed the options, which included staying in the study without the vaccine," he says, "and amazingly there were people — a couple of people — who chose that."
He suspects those individuals got spooked by rumors about the vaccine. But everybody else who had the placebo shot went ahead and got the actual vaccine. So now Fierro has essentially no comparison group left for the ongoing study.
"It's a loss from a scientific standpoint, but given the circumstances I think it's the right thing to do," he says."
Mott was one of about 650 volunteers who took the experimental Moderna vaccine at a company called Johnson County Clinical Trials in Lenexa, Kan. Dr. Carlos Fierro, who runs the study there, says every participant was called back after the Food and Drug Administration authorized the vaccine."
"Fierro sees another possibility. Perhaps in a year or two the existing vaccines will have proven so effective that COVID-19 becomes not much more than a nuisance. Under those circumstances, the risk of participating in a study that has a placebo option would be low enough to be acceptable, say, for young people who have not yet been vaccinated."
It said placebo patients were given the option to opt out and vaccinate in January when the vaccine was made available by the FDA. Denying it to them would be wrong on ethical grounds. Big difference. All data collected to that point is valid.
Scientists have already collected data from the vaccine studies that could help them identify how individuals’ immune systems have responded to vaccination. That could eventually let them identify immune system features, called correlates of protection, that could strongly indicate vaccine effectiveness.
Th trial started on July 27, 2020, and was scheduled to go till June of 2023. They destroyed their placebo group in 6 months...... The approval was based on this study.... that has NO CONTROL GROUP. if you don’t find that troubling......get your child in line to get the next shot, and please leave the rest of us alone.
Regardless, all the efficacy numbers you are hearing about the vaccine effectiveness are all bunk. THERE IS NO CONTROL GROUP. 90%, 70%, 45%......it’s all advertising/propaganda.
Pfizer’s COVID-19 immunity protection diminishes after 2 months, and it can reach as low as 20% after 4 months: studies
Get ready for shots every month.
And if you believe any of those numbers from Pfizer... that has a criminal history, of falsifying research...... please take 10 of these shots, all in one sitting.
Pfizer has been a “habitual offender,” persistently engaging in illegal and corrupt marketing practices, bribing physicians and suppressing adverse trial results. Since 2002 the company and its subsidiaries have been assessed $3 billion in criminal convictions, civil penalties and jury awards.
@pesky_wabbit thank you for your input. Not interested in any back and forth with you. Vaccine approval takes 10- 15 years for a reason, you are okay with 6 months, and blatant violations of testing protocols. I am not... we might as well be on different planets, hell galaxies. This conversation will not go anywhere...
One man's contextuality.... is another man's fraud. And this has never been done in the history of Clinical research, and to make this abomination mandatory....Forced at the point of a gun. Yeah....
Specifically, I am asking if this guy who’s genuinely expressing concerns about the technology he claims he’s invented for use as a Covid vaccine, is he who he says he is?
I will read more about him, I just want to ascertain if he’s a good source of science?
This terminology ADE seems to keep coming up in discussions and concerns about the Covid vaccines, amongst other concerns. Dr. Malone did quote "fortune favors the prepared mind - Louis Pasteur".
There are other sources of doctors with 20+ years experience (again self proclaimed) who discuss in great length breaking the issues down in layman's terms, their concerns. I do want to hear both camps, 100% for and those expressing concerns.
@femoore12 - exactly! And I heard it on CNN, it must be true also.
There’s a lot of people, and I do mean a lot, who are claiming injury and who are (not confirmed to me, self proclaimed professionals) who are putting their credibility on the line expressing concerns.
I rather consider that I would be a fool not to at least entertain the notion that some due diligence is in order here. When I make a reasonably high dollar purchase these days, I will ask about, and I will read reviews and I do absolutely look at the negative reports as well. There is nothing I have ever purchased that I put in higher esteem than my health.
The very first person I saw publicly share concerns on television regarding Covid vaccines, was during the Presidential debate. Please feel free to quote me on that anytime :-)
Why do so many who promote "one must listen before buying your components" trust the internet so much? When this all started I paid a visit to my doctor to ask him his advice. He took the vaccine and suggested we do so too. I trust him. As for doomsday preppers....future grocery stores of the apocalypse.
In simple explaination, this V was created in the lab combining five viruses and purposely realeased for the vaccination program. This intention is purely about vaccinating the world. Not JUST for profit, but a much worse outcome. Those that don't understand this need to open their eyes.
@cd318, considering your last post was directed towards me, I'll respond.
I'm not typically one to open any of these links thrown around but for you I've made an exception. And I appreciate.
This is what has puzzled me the most.....I'm repeating myself, but how can a middle aged man go through what I've gone, (not vaccinated) and so FAR still fly my flag... Can I really be that lucky, (because gambling is not necessary my expertise) I think not.
All I pray is that I never spread the virus to ANYONE while being infected. I surely did NOT infect my family.....asymptomatic???
Massive constrainted and forced vaccination are contrary to ethics and to medecine...
Using only massive vaccinations with an airborne mutating virus is irrational especially when some "power" censor all proved treatment by experimented doctors from the beginning : campaing of lies about 2 of the less toxic drugs on the planet already used billions ,yes billions, of times....
Then think about the UNKNOWN long term consequences of this UNKNOWN Jab used in a false proclaimed urgency , because the WHO and Dr. Fauci falsely claimed that there exist NO TREATMENT, which was false from the beginning thanks to DR. Raoult and Zelenko here....
Then what is rational behaviour in any pandemic journey with an airborne easily mutating virus? Vaccinations of the at risk groups + preventive and curative EARLY treatment for the others....
This is my conclusion....After reading for months all doctors who TREAT patient by their own admission and with succeess...Not the health bureaucrats in power and their minions...
Some years ago Gates talked about the need to reduce the Population. D. Rockefeller in a secret meeting said they WERE going to reduce the population. Thier plan is underway. This need's to be said, sorry.
Some years ago Gates talked about the need to reduce the Population. D. Rockefeller in a secret meeting said they WERE going to reduce the population. Thier plan is underway. This need’s to be said, sorry.
Stick to the facts not to alleged intention...
People will think with some reason that you are nut...Dont give them munitions please...
My last post deal ONLY with facts not intention hidden or alleged unproven one...
What do you want?
Take people in a fantasy possible conspiracy or unreal one?
There is a REAL one EVIDENT conspiracy : concealling the value of proven low cost treatments in the midst of a crisis worlwide...HQC and Ivermectin....All the facts are there to be seen by everybody....
( i will not speak about "gain of function research" almost proven by now and the artificial orgini , because these facts are not OFFICIALLY PROVEN)
Lying about ivermectin and HQC is evidence casted in stones...It is only that a crime against humanity....
Then stay mute about allegations and speak about facts....
When history will come better judges than us will set the table of judgment....
If a neighbour who dont like someone says that he will be glad that someone kill him; Is this a proof of murder by this neighbour? No...
I myself want to kill some neighbours times to times... 😁and there are too much people on earth anyway because we are not enough wise socially to accomodate life on earth... Am i a criminal if i say so?
No...
Saying that , after Malthus in a Darwinian old way, that there are too much people on earth is only that : an opinion ...
Not a fact and not scientifically proven facts which someone can use in the court now...
Not treating people dying from a disease is criminal.....Erasing half of the solutions treatment for VAXX profit is criminal....These are easily provable fact by now.... Anybody can see it... In the other hand nobody can SEE the intentions behind these facts...Save the evident profiteering by corporations.... This is facts...
Nobody here claim that ONLY his immune system will protect him better than a vaxx... We are not all fools...
Like always you are with binary oppositions and warring camps...Simplistic arguments.... Like your past attribution of "tin foil hat" for any unorthodox audio experiments here.... Simple mind perhaps?
But many doctors claim ,with myself, that those which takes a risk/benefit calculus for themselves, being with no co-morbidities for example, can with Vitamin d and vitamin c high level and zinc and quercetin and with some others simple treatment precautions face covid-19...
And sleep better without bothering themselves with Unknown adverse short term or long term effects of an experimental technology....
Think about the death probabilities of the disease....
Think about the probabilities of unknown adverse effects on one kind or an another....
If you can think out of propaganda, medical one or audiophile one....
I will repeat:
in a pandemy with an airborne mutating virus we need VAXX and TREATMENTS....NOT one only and mainly...No VAXX and NO treatment alone but the 2.... and NO need to FORCED MANDATORY MASS VACCINATIONS....
We have two different camps.Mainstream media/tech (who censor any opposing view) and Alternate journalists and experts (who've been sensored. Which side has the possible agenda/profit? I got rid of Television in 2006. I have instead been study and researching (informally) more and more since then. At a point you find everything is connected and the truth all becomes perfectly clear.
I generally prefer the sound of copper cables over silver. Doesn't seem to matter which components either, I always seem to fall on the side of copper cables. My friends think I'm bat poop crazy that I would even have a preference (I'm sure there are plenty here who would think the same) but I do. Purely psychological? Maybe, but it's psychological phenomena that I prefer.
I prefer copper cables as well (I enjoy my A23 quite alot) except I also like Shindo silver cables in the context of my current setups. All of it is system dependent I guess. Maybe the thesis is that we prefer the cables we prefer....that just so happen to be copper (or in some cases silver).
When I had an ARC reference stack, I preferred Transparent Audio cables because....well...because I paid alot of money for them and by gosh I was going to make sure they did the trick. I evolved more into the camp that @atmasphere so accurately communicates which is truly balanced gear is virtually cable agnostic. Peace.
How on earth are you able to keep up with the Kardashians or the Real Houswives of Orange County LOL?
There isn't alot on television that inspires but have you seen the documentary "Echo in the Canyon"? You may be unplugged but still accessing content like this online. It seems for a while there in the 1960's, alot of musical greatness lived/visited that windy road and some great music poured out of there. Joni Mitchell, CSNY, Cass Elliott, etc, etc.
The “Lock Step” scenario is the first of four narratives presented in the Rockefeller Foundation’s summary document, “Scenarios for the Future of Technology and International Development”. It deals with a zoonotic viral pandemic that wipes out millions across the globe. It’s not that long of a read, so let’s just take a quick walk through it, because it is indeed very eye-opening. The details are worth knowing.
“A new influenza strain — originating from wild geese — was extremely virulent and deadly. Even the most pandemic-prepared nations were quickly overwhelmed when the virus streaked around the world, infecting nearly 20 percent of the global population and killing 8 million in just seven months, the majority of them healthy young adults. The pandemic also had a deadly effect on economies: international mobility of both people and goods screeched to a halt, debilitating industries like tourism and breaking global supply chains. Even locally, normally bustling shops and office buildings sat empty for months, devoid of both employees and customers.
The pandemic blanketed the planet — though disproportionate numbers died in Africa, Southeast Asia, and Central America, where the virus spread like wildfire in the absence of official containment protocols. But even in developed countries, containment was a challenge. The United States’s initial policy of “strongly discouraging” citizens from flying proved deadly in its leniency, accelerating the spread of the virus not just within the U.S. but across borders. However, a few countries did fare better — China in particular. The Chinese government’s quick imposition and enforcement of mandatory quarantine for all citizens, as well as its instant and near-hermetic sealing off of all borders, saved millions of lives, stopping the spread of the virus far earlier than in other countries and enabling a swifter post-pandemic recovery.
China’s government was not the only one that took extreme measures to protect its citizens from risk and exposure. During the pandemic, national leaders around the world flexed their authority and imposed airtight rules and restrictions, from the mandatory wearing of face masks to body-temperature checks at the entries to communal spaces like train stations and supermarkets. Even after the pandemic faded, this more authoritarian control and oversight of citizens and their activities stuck and even intensified. In order to protect themselves from the spread of increasingly global problems — from pandemics and transnational terrorism to environmental crises and rising poverty — leaders around the world took a firmer grip on power.
At first, the notion of a more controlled world gained wide acceptance and approval. Citizens willingly gave up some of their sovereignty — and their privacy — to more paternalistic states in exchange for greater safety and stability. Citizens were more tolerant, and even eager, for top-down direction and oversight, and national leaders had more latitude to impose order in the ways they saw fit. In developed countries, this heightened oversight took many forms: biometric IDs for all citizens, for example, and tighter regulation of key industries whose stability was deemed vital to national interests. In many developed countries, enforced cooperation with a suite of new regulations and agreements slowly but steadily restored both order and, importantly, economic growth.
Across the developing world, however, the story was different — and much more variable. Top-down authority took different forms in different countries, hinging largely on the capacity, caliber, and intentions of their leaders. In countries with strong and thoughtful leaders, citizens’ overall economic status and quality of life increased. In India, for example, air quality drastically improved after 2016, when the government outlawed high-emitting vehicles. In Ghana, the introduction of ambitious government programs to improve basic infrastructure and ensure the availability of clean water for all her people led to a sharp decline in water-borne diseases. But more authoritarian leadership worked less well — and in some cases tragically — in countries run by irresponsible elites who used their increased power to pursue their own interests at the expense of their citizens.
There were other downsides, as the rise of virulent nationalism created new hazards: spectators at the 2018 World Cup, for example, wore bulletproof vests that sported a patch of their national flag. Strong technology regulations stifled innovation, kept costs high, and curbed adoption. In the developing world, access to “approved” technologies increased but beyond that remained limited: the locus of technology innovation was largely in the developed world, leaving many developing countries on the receiving end of technologies that others consider “best” for them. Some governments found this patronizing and refused to distribute computers and other technologies that they scoffed at as “second hand.” Meanwhile, developing countries with more resources and better capacity began to innovate internally to fill these gaps on their own.
Meanwhile, in the developed world, the presence of so many top-down rules and norms greatly inhibited entrepreneurial activity. Scientists and innovators were often told by governments what research lines to pursue and were guided mostly toward projects that would make money (e.g., market-driven product development) or were “sure bets” (e.g., fundamental research), leaving more risky or innovative research areas largely untapped. Well-off countries and monopolistic companies with big research and development budgets still made significant advances, but the IP behind their breakthroughs remained locked behind strict national or corporate protection. Russia and India imposed stringent domestic standards for supervising and certifying encryption-related products and their suppliers — a category that in reality meant all IT innovations. The U.S. and EU struck back with retaliatory national standards, throwing a wrench in the development and diffusion of technology globally.
Especially in the developing world, acting in one’s national self-interest often meant seeking practical alliances that fit with those interests — whether it was gaining access to needed resources or banding together in order to achieve economic growth. In South America and Africa, regional and sub-regional alliances became more structured. Kenya doubled its trade with southern and eastern Africa, as new partnerships grew within the continent. China’s investment in Africa expanded as the bargain of new jobs and infrastructure in exchange for access to key minerals or food exports proved agreeable to many governments. Cross-border ties proliferated in the form of official security aid. While the deployment of foreign security teams was welcomed in some of the most dire failed states, one-size-fits-all solutions yielded few positive results.
By 2025, people seemed to be growing weary of so much top-down control and letting leaders and authorities make choices for them.
Wherever national interests clashed with individual interests, there was conflict. Sporadic pushback became increasingly organized and coordinated, as disaffected youth and people who had seen their status and opportunities slip away — largely in developing countries — incited civil unrest. In 2026, protestors in Nigeria brought down the government, fed up with the entrenched cronyism and corruption. Even those who liked the greater stability and predictability of this world began to grow uncomfortable and constrained by so many tight rules and by the strictness of national boundaries. The feeling lingered that sooner or later, something would inevitably upset the neat order that the world’s governments had worked so hard to establish.”
President Trump’s September 19, 2019 Executive Order on “Modernizing Influenza Vaccines in the United States to Promote National Security and Public Health”, which very similarly asserts the essential need for a rapid rollout of vaccines in the event of a zoonotic viral pandemic; and
Event 201, the much-noticed planning event coordinated by the Gates Foundation, the World Economic Forum and the Michael Bloomberg School of Public Health at Johns Hopkins University’s Center for Health Security, also gamed a global “novel zoonotic coronavirus” pandemic “modeled on SARS” killing 65 million people, issuing recommendations on how corporations could “help” in such a crisis. Although the gamed Event 201 pandemic was to occur in South America, one of the players in this event was from the Chinese Centers for Disease Control with no South American representatives in attendance.
Microsoft founder Bill Gates’ statements and Gates Foundation activities throughout an extended period of time, including a 2013 Netflix documentary called “The Next Pandemic”. Is it not uncoincidental that Gates just “stepped down” from leadership of Microsoft to focus on his vaccine-focused “philanthropic initiatives”. Gates, together with help from Amazon, launched the Seattle Corona Assessment Network (SCAN), which is sending at-home corona tests to Seattle residents. SCAN is “an outgrowth of the Seattle Flu Study, which has been using genetic analysis to track the spread of infectious diseases for more than a year”, according to GeekWire. They are now “offering” nasal swabs to area residents, just as the Gates organization has taken human samples elsewhere in the world.
The origins of these developments in “syndromic surveillance” goes much further back, to the early post-911 days, which arguably ushered in Our ill-considered coup on Western democracy.
Notably, the Rockefeller Lock Step scenario does not mention the word “vaccination”. It appears a strange omission, as anti-vaccine censorship and mandatory vaccine legislation also preceded this unprecedented alleged pandemic event. In fact, Rep. Adam Schiff of Russiagate fame has been recently sued by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons for “bullying tech companies into censoring information about vaccines.” Specifically, their complaint “points to letters Schiff sent to Google, Facebook, and Amazon in February and March of 2019 urging those companies to discredit or deplatform any content that suggests vaccines may be harmful.” Of course Amazon, Google and other Big Tech company have begun “disrupting healthcare” already.
Now the people are being told vaccines will shortly provide them with the immunity they apparently lack. This is an even greater threat, as the Moderna vaccines that may be used, as reported by the great Mint Press News, now Unlimited Hangout reporter Whitney Webb, are DNA tamperers. We like to call them GMO vaccines. The ruling class attack is thus genetic and species-genocidal.
Despite this omission, the Rockefeller “Lock Step” scenario is nonetheless a ruling class dream come true (but epically dire for the masses): the end of the sovereign individual in a cradle-to-grave system of behavioral, medical, digital surveillance and control. One wonders if the world’s leaders, celebrities and politicians who disproportionately seem to be afflicted with “novel corona” will be lining up for their biometric IDs. Also notable is the threat level attributed to encryption, which is blamed for the end of the global Internet and the free flow of information – and thus technological and economic innovation – among the world’s peoples. Consider this in the context of the EARN IT Act that has been heavily pushed by Attorney General Bill Barr, which calls for government backdoors ostensibly to fight online child abuse.
These “steps” constitute an evisceration of constitutional democracy, the sovereignty of the individual and the advent of neofeudal conditions, where the corporate state is lord and master over one’s person. We call this “Chinafication.” Investigative journalist Harry Vox, who broke this document back in 2014, calls it “authoritarian capitalism”.
Vox first warned the world about the Rockefeller pandemic “Lock Down” scenario on October 21, 2014 from New York City. His prescient and timely warning is highly suggested viewing.
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