Cost effective Schumann Resonator

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I took the plunge and bought two Chinese units from ebay a couple of days ago. They won't arrive until March. Curiosity finally got to me. 

I use a USB wall wart and six-foot long USB cable so that the device can be suspended more than 1m50cm off the floor. Better safe than sorry.

Thanks. Pic 5 shows this usb device plugged into an ac usb adapter into a wall outlet. My understanding from reviews is that SR should be approx 5-6 feet above the floor for best effects. Does this make a difference?

But one, get one Blue USB device. Buy two, get one Black USB device, the more accurate version.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F273903516414

Can someone post a link to this black USB SR...thanks.

Wow, yourself, needle nose.

Wow.

You pays your money and you takes your chances. I think the BLACK USB little finger size SR from Hong Kong is a good deal. 

I see the seller on Ebay named David like OP mentioned. Is he someone that makes solid Schumann's?

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Maybe you need to get one or two of the very accurate BLACK USB Schumann device from Hong Kong. Hmmmmmm....🤔

I will try... But Geoff you had another brand of Shumann Generator than me I think a rectangular black like a key....... Probably better... I think it is possible with these to put 2 small plate shungite+copper on each side of the S. G. … Mine are not those rectangular thin usb S.G. ...I will try after buying the rectangular Ufeel ...

So, are you using two shungite plates for the USB devices yet? Squeeze those photons!! Squeeze ‘em real good!

You send me some  Thanks....But I add the shungite to it  ….A good idea... I thank you very much for your kind gift....My best...

I cannot remember whose idea the copper tape was. 😳

Unfortunately no …. :)

Only the original idea to add shungite stone+copper tape to the S.G. ...

It is a collective work of 2 I think … :)

My best to you...

Did he have the idea of two (2) shungite plates - of squeezing the photons?? 😬 😬

I thinks the idea comes from one of your friend also is not it?   :)

OK, here’s the latest trick for anyone with USB Schumann frequency generators. Rather than sticking one thin shungite plate to the side of the little finger size device, I stuck one shungite plate an BOTH sides of the device - each plate having one of my Flying Saucers for Windows copper foils on the outside. I have two USB Schumann devices, both of which are mechanically isolated with elastic suspensions with resonant frequency circa 1 Hz. The idea behind the shungite sandwich is borrowed from my Super Intelligent Chip, where the Schumann waves are partially confined; the photon streams are squeezed by the shungite sandwich. More intense sonically.

But our good mutual friends, dare I say colleagues at NASA and Harvard ( Cliffe for the Deadhead chicks previously mentioned, but a regress ) have done some work on human body natural resonance frequencies, effects of infrasonics, very interesting reading....
5-10 HZ for some of the major organs, gee not so far from 7.83

But since our good Sattelite shepherd passed physics, one should contemplate how any smallish recording venue manages to fit that low bass note into the room ? 

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OK, I tried it, and I could not hear any effect.  Next...

It's really the same sort of problem as for the electromagnetic wave Schumann generators that I alluded to earlier. Since the EM wave of 7.8Hz requires an antenna that’s 25,000 long how do they get the darn thing into that little box? 😬 By the same token, how can they get a 7.8Hz acoustic wave into the room - even with computer speakers that have a low end of what, 70Hz or something? Answer at 11.

Addendum: I was telling someone this morning about the Schumann frequency and the CD with the Schumann frequency on it. When I informed him he couldn’t hear 7.8Hz he asked, "why would I want to listen to it if I can’t hear it?" Which is, actually, a perfectly reasonable and valid question. 🙄

@geoffkait But what if your speakers cannot go down to 7.8 Hz as most speakers cannot?

Another inexpensive alternative, and one which I've explored, is the Schumann Frequency CD, available from any number of Internet stores. Of course the Schumann Frequency is not an electromagnetic wave but an acoustic wave. The trick is to get the 7.8 Hz frequency out into the room using ordinary speakers, if you see what I mean. 

Nonoise and James:

Experimentation is the Key to Having the Schuman generators improve the sound. Five to eight feet is often the normal range for best results and centered between the speakers.
I do like their effect using them in a traditional stereo system, a dedicated headphone system, and a car system. Acoustic Revive, Telos, Stein, and by far the most beneficial - the Synergistic  Research Atmosphere units. 
Enjoy.

David Pritchard

Haha, good questions.  On Amazon Prime, I can return it if it doesn't work.  So on this experiment, I'm really focussed on the results first.  If this thing has any affect, then I'll do more reading and maybe come back ready for debate.

Innocent questions: (1) Since the wavelength of an electromagnetic wave at the Schumann frequency of 7.8 Hz is equal to the circumference of the Earth 🌎 how can they fit a 25,000 mile long antenna into that little box? And (2) how can the Schumann frequency wave even fit into the room?

I found one on Amazon Prime for $70, I could not resist the temptation.  I will report back my findings.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07412LCX7/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

While reading up on a new Clones music server I linked to their site and discovered that Funjoe has his version of a Schumann Resonator. He recommends a height of 5' and close placement to the listening position.

So I took out my Quantum version, which I've kept close to my system, in the rack, and placed it on a CD cabinet close to where I sit (about 1 yard) and it's 4' off the floor. What a difference it made. Much clearer presentation with better separation and a surprising increase in bass definition. There are real fingers plucking and pulling on those bass strings. It's really easy to hear the difference. Even the highs were better defined. There's a moment in a familiar recording where there's this shiny kind of shimmer, high up in the register, that turned out to be some very rapid high end piano key strokes, struck very softly. I can clearly hear piano foot pedals being engaged, sustained and released, when previously they just had a soft, thumpy impression of being used.

With the older placement, I heard only a slight improvement. Goes to show that I should keep up on things like this. Anyway, I was so impressed  that I went and ordered one from Clones Audio and it's even better than the Quantum unit. Much better. It has a slight buzz that you can hear with your ear close to it while the Quantum unit has a more aggressive buzz. Being a much older device, it might be on it's last legs.  The Clones device is also less than half the price of the Quantum unit, delivered from China. 

I put the older unit in my bedroom to see if there's any benefit and if there is, then there's going to be another Clones unit to order.

All the best,
Nonoise

Question for users: why do you think location, especially height is important when placing the Schumann device? It just seems odd, I'm not doubting it. You know, what with the wavelength of the Schumann wave being so long and all, 26,000 miles long. 

Cheers

They sell a Schumann frequency CD all over the Internet probably Amazon, too, that will produce a 7.83 Hz acoustic tone in the room through any speakers, even bookshelf speakers. Of course the Acoustic Revive device and other similar units produce an electromagnetic wave. An electromagnetic wave, not to be confused with RFI or EMI or even a shield against RFI or EMI. An electromagnetic wave with a wavelength of 26,000 miles. We can get into how such a long wavelength wave fits into the room later. Lol

Both the AR888 and the Fleabay version (I recommend the Chartres Resonator Mk2 version for better resolution and detail, esp with +12V LPS, there are tons of suppliers for that on Fleabay as well).
Positioning the AR-888 or alternative product is key, you need to experiment. I recommend the first one in the middle between the speakers, between 5ft and 6ft, the second one either on the back wall or on the side wall at the reflexion point (the same location you would put an acoustic panel). 
This tweak has no downside: it does not change the soundstage or induce imbalance but, because of how it functions, "cleans" the air in your listening room, resulting in more details and increased clarity.  Other tweaks or cables can have side effects. IME one of the best tweaks!

I've been listening to the original RR-77 for many years and it does do everything the manufacturer claims and I've too have felt "relaxed" during and after listening sessions.

I still have mine sitting unused. I paid $75 for it early this year. Think I'll list it "tweaks".

So, that's how it works, it relaxes you? Not the RFI/EMI thing that Acoustic Revive used to explain? Have they updated their explanation too?

WOW...WOW...WOW. I just tried the new Acoustic Revive RR-888 Schumann generator and what an improvement in my sound! Cleaner, more spacious, more control and wider sound stage! After 4 hrs of listening I even felt more relaxed. Brought it over to 3 other audiophiles and all heard the same improvement to a bit lesser degree than at my own studio but nevertheless a very nice improvement. This "tweak" will never leave my room.
Don't know what improvements Acoustic Revive have come out with from their RR-777 to this RR-888 unit but makes no difference it worksQ!

(Dealer disclaimer)

Tried mine in the areas suggested with no changes, except when my wife asked if it was going to stay up there on the wall between the speakers. I guess I'm just one who doesn't hear it. Will probably sell it at a loss monetarily, but as a gain inquisitively.

If you must use a wall wart for power, try to find one that is a linear power supply.

Thanks for the input. Will try your recommendations and let you know the outcome. The wall wart I'm using is a generic adjustable one that comes with switchable end connectors of various type. The resonator is a middle of the road model ($75) with larger 16V, 10,000uf caps. Looks like I may have to pick up a better power supply.

Make that about 6 feet off the floor.

I am using several Schumann Resonators in my system. The quality of the power supply and dc lead feeding the SR makes an enormous difference to the sound. I have experimented from a $25.00 wall wart linear power supply, to 12v battery powered, to the fabulous Paul Hynes SR5. The SQ difference between the wall wart to the SR5 is like comparing a lamp cord to Odin PC. The difference is that significant. SR placement can yield interesting results as well. I have tried; under speaker cables close to speaker binding post, under pre-amp, under IC from pre-amp, next to power conditioners. All these different positions of the SR will give different sonic effects. If you only have one SR, my favourite spot is on the front wall between the speakers about 8’ off the floor. YMMV