Can a DAC do double duty?


Hi All,

I have Eversolo streamer going to DENAFRIPS Pontus via USB. Then XLR’s from Pontus to my processor. 
 

I have an older Pioneer Elite CD carousel which has coax. Can I go coax from CD player to Pontus, then Pontus to processor via RCA in’s on my processor?

 

Obviously I would be listening to either/or not at the same time. But is this doable? And if so does it do any harm to Pontus?

 

Thanks so much in advance!

 

Best Regards…

kingbr

Thank you @cleeds! I figured it was ok, but honestly haven’t heard of anyone doing it. No extra burden or no harm to the Pontus right?

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I’d think all you need is the one XLR connection from the Pontus to the processor and just switch inputs on the Pontus to toggle between the streamer and CD player.  I’m guessing you’re looking at adding another RCA connection because you’d rather use the processor to toggle?  Might be interesting to try both ways and see if you perceive any sonic differences.  

Thank you for the replies! Only 1 XLR cable? My processor is the Krell Foundation. What would be the best way to connect? I need the 2 XLR’s for left and right for the streamer, no? And then the RCA’s left and right from the Pontus to the Krell?

Only 1 XLR cable?

Sorry, my bad.  You are correct and I meant one pair of XLR interconnects.  Both your CD player and streamer should be able to flow through just the XLR interconnects from the Pontus (no RCA interconnects needed), and if the Krell is fully balanced that’s sonically probably the better way to go along with not having to potentially have to buy another pair of RCA interconnects.

Thank you @soix! No actually that's MY bad, I should have known that's what you meant😖. So both devices would then share the same inputs? Wow would have never thought that possible. That would be weird though because I have the XLR named as "Eversolo" and the cd player as "Elite" on the Krell. So I would then just always keep it as "Eversolo" but I'd still be able to play the CD player under the "Eversolo" input, right? 

Full disclosure I already have the CD player connected to DENAFRIPS Ares DAC but would like to sell that DAC and declutter my system a bit which is what prompted me to inquire about this,,,,

No harm at all the 8 is their best have a smps on the digital and a linear supply on the analog end ,and the new AKM 99 ES chips are very non bright.

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So I would then just always keep it as "Eversolo" but I'd still be able to play the CD player under the "Eversolo" input, right? 

That’s exactly right.  Maybe renaming the Krell input to “Pontus” would be a little less confusing?

Thanks again and great call on the Pontus naming @soix 😂! Love it!

 

@martinl07d I am running the Elite PD-F17-old school baby👌🏻

@kingbr...’nuthin’ wrong ’bout ’old skool’.... ;)

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"You may be right, I may be crazy
Oh, but it just may be a lunatic you’re looking for.."

...played loud(er) for spouse, with a Look.

"...jury’s still out..."

(....counted fingers...still 10...and not calling the ramparts of a local bridge Home...)

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Man, I miss my Pioneer Elite CD Player!!!  Yours is a6 CD version?  Still running good without any laser issues at all?

That elite stuff was awesome. I still have my Elite PD65, and it still sounds lovely. It took something quadruple the price to outdo that monster. Finally replaced it with a Marantz SA7S1. Both are very sweet and more analog sounding than most, but the Marantz is more precise and refined in the drum and vocal reproduction. I am glad you got your question answered and shared a blast from the past with us.

LOVE that the Elite player got some attention!😊

 

I did have to have the “arm” replaced as a cd came loose somehow and jammed up everything. My local guy said “it wasn’t worth fixing because of cost”, and he wasn’t sure he could get the part needed. I literally said “I don’t care what it costs please do whatever you can. It ended up around $300 but truthfully I’d have paid double! I’m a cd guy, always have been…

@amtprod not sure if it’s A6 version? Got her off EBay a few years ago. In a previous life I had the PD-F908 and sold that one after my divorce. A few years ago when I got back into the game the first thing I looked for was a Pioneer carousel. Came across the Elite and pounced!

 

@asvjerry B. Joel Glass Houses is a true Time Machine for me. “Sleeping With the Television on” (does not get any better than the intro to that one😌 brings me right back to the old days when you’d fall asleep watching a movie and wake up to the snowy screen with that playing), and “ I Don’t Want To Be Alone Anymore”. IMHO those were BJ’s best and most underrated songs. Not sure why they never got the airtime…memory lane man, doesn’t get any better…

Just buya external dvd,Blu-ray  with a usb A on one end which you need to rip CDs 

these multi disc are NG the bigger the platter the more the wobble.

Agree with the advice above - not issues with using two inputs to the Pontus

However where I ran into an issue with the Pontus (which I love by the way) was in trying to hook up both outputs of the Pontus at the same time.  I wanted to run RCA into my tube integrated and run XLR to a headphone amp.  Even though I would have only used one output at a time, Vinshine confirmed what the manual said about not connecting both outputs at once. Beyond my understanding but something to do with output buffering I believe.  My solution was to get a new integrated amp with XLR input with a good built-in headphone amp

@jmalen123 I have the PD-65 as well.Sadly, there's something wrong in the laser electronics and it no longer reads a CD.  I -LOVED- this CD player.  It really had an incredible presence and projected the instruments into the room.  I wish I could get this thing fixed!!

Even though I would have only used one output at a time, Vinshine confirmed what the manual said about not connecting both outputs at once.

@burtlake Great and important info, and thanks for sharing — I was actually wondering about exactly that issue.  OP, there’s the definitive answer to your initial question.

Damn, thank you for pointing this out. I actually emailed Alvin at Vinshine about this and they're currently on holiday break...Guess I'd better put those plans on hold 😔

For years, all the way back to the original Audio Alchemy DAC I have always had a DAC as the heart and hub of my digital gear....

Just received this response from Alvin:

 

Dear Brian

 

Nice to hear from you again!
It's been some time since we last spoke. How are you doing? I hope you are doing well.

 

Absolutely no problem to connect multiple sources to the DAC's inputs. 

However, there is no need to use RCA output to connect to the same Krell processor. Your existing XLR output will work just fine.

 

Hope this helps!

So that being the case, then I would just switch between Coax and USBB on Pontus to switch from CD player to streamer, right?

...and another Billy J. to keep in mind...annnd our OP may be wount to agree:

"Don't waste your money on a new set of speakers
You get more mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers"

Barefootin' is an option. 😏

Thanks again All!

So yup decided that’s the route I’m going! I’ll list the Ares II, AQ Water RCA’s. AQ Coffee Coax and add my Transparent Coax (XLR’s are Transparent and I already have the Transparrent Premium Coax hanging around) to the Pontus. 
 

So I can actually upgrade my cd sound and hopefully get some extra $ in my pocket. How often do you get to do that😌?

 

@asvjerry of course I agree, if I didn’t try to get all that initial mileage from a cheap pair of sneakers I would have never discovered my 2 BJ faves😉😂😌!