Cables recommendation


Hello everyone,

I currently own 803D3, C2700 pre and MC462 amp. I also have an Oppo 105D and  Denon X4700 that power the surround speaker. I’m now in the look for cables to fire this system up the best I can but to keep the spending reasonable. I currently do not have any cables.

I’ll appreciate everyone’s opinion and suggestion on cable speakers, power cables, interconnects from 2700 to 462 and other cables I should buy to get the most out of this system. I know many have similar systems as this one and would love to hear your recommendations.

Another important thing to note is that I do not have a streamer and thought to use the Oppo for this reason (maybe connect it to DA2 DAC of the C2700?) or maybe get a Sonus streamer. 

Thanks 🙏🏼

el_it

+1 to what @mesch said.

Many start like this with cables along with their first pair of speakers and sources - - aligning their cable spend without going overboard. However if you suspect that you will upgrade speakers or upgrade core components again later, its definitely worth the extra time, money, and energy to investigate loaners or demos. Some retailers offer a 45-60 day return policy, and this can be super helpful to decide.

I agree with a lot of the cable choices they're all OCC single crystal wire, that has been proven now for over 50 years to be the best wire for audio, there's no Crystal barriers in OCC single crystal wire, ofc wire has 700 Crystal barriers per foot that the signal has to jump through and that causes all kinds of bad things to happen.

I've been observing cable threads for far too long. I can never makes heads or tails of them, I'm sure I could collate the entirety of them and find reviews claiming a particular cable or line of cables as best ever, others would state it being terrible, totally inferior to some other best cable or line of cables, and this goes on and on and on, and likely extends to every cable manufacturer.

 

What are cable reviews and recommendations worth in this case? I came to this conclusion many years ago, result was I auditioned wide variety of cables over many years from lending library at Cable Company. Yes, cables sound different, but  my system totally unique, and changes to system have often necessitated  changes in cables. I find cables to be fine tuning device, trying to generalize effects of cables extremely problematic IMO.

Here are recommendations at the lower end of the cost spectrum:

Canare 4S11 Speaker Cable, Terminated with choice of connectors from Blue Jean Cable - For example a 10’ pair at $106 from Blue Jean Cable

Canare L-4E6S interconnects built to your specifications by Redco - For example 1 meter pair at $25

Power cables - Cullen Cable Avius at $129 for a 6’ cable. Patrick volunteered to update the connectors at no cost to very nice looking connectors.

Zavfino also makes beautiful power cables for slightly higher costs.

 

Whatever you choose, be wary of changing them out all at once. In fact, it's best to do one component at a time, factoring in any breaking in period, etc.

Be objective and open to the possibility that a difference in sound might not necessarily mean better.

Once you find a brand you like, it's probable that its tendencies will sound the same as you expand to more components, but again be wary of jumping too far at once. Only then can you be sure you're hearing the actual cables rather than your hopes and expectations for them.

I would recommend calling Jason Ressler at The Cable Company.  He is the most knowledgeable person I have ever talked.  I like his Synergistic Research.  He will sell what you need and give you the right recommendations.

Thanks again for all the great recommendations, it is very well appreciated!

For the moment, after hearing several recommendations, I ended buying used Acoustic Zen Matrix II XLR cables to connect the C2700 to the MC462. Now onto other cables that will have good synergy with them 😅

@orgillian197 I very much agree that in order to evaluate each cable I need to change each time one of them and keep the others but since I dont have the privilege of renting cables for testing nor have other cables in my possession, I would need to get all at once and hope for the best:( That is the main issue I have and the inner fight of spending money on basic cables and then start upgrading each which can lead to even further expense or just get good and solid cables that other people had great experience with to minimize that risk. I am leaning toward the secondary.

@jetter What would be your recommendation for higher tier? 

@sns Well said. I had a chance to even hear some great speakers with bad configuration that sounded awful while much inferior models sounded much better. It all comes down to the small details.

@decooney I just got these set up so no plans in the near future to upgrade anything. The cost is already beyond my initial budget so spending even more on speakers is out of the question right now 😂

@larry5729 Thank you for your post. I did contact The Cable company but not with Jason Ressler. I was advised to get Audience Ohno or Synergistic Research Foundation but these recommendations just seems to be based on price range rather than on gear specific.

@fbgbill Thanks, I will definitely look at Morrow cables. Which power cables models of Furutech did you made for the Mc's? 

 

@el_it I think the thought was more related to taking your time, maybe trying a few cables on demo before spending up too much unnecessarily.  While I'm I'm a cable nut and tried far too many different cables myself - - many of my 50+ year in-audio buddies settled on mid-level cost cables from Audioquest and did just fine. Lots of good recommendations on this thread to try. Best of luck. 

@el_it 

My power cables consisted of Furutech FP-S55N cable and Furutech ACFL-50(R) IEC and 50M(R) plugs for the main power cables to my power controller and the mono amps. All others were Furutech FP-SO22n cord and Furutech FI-11-N1 (G) IEC and FI-11M-N1 (G) connectors.

Iconoclast- designed independently by experienced Belden engineer and construction and science are explained on their website (see white papers)- you know what you’re getting and why the cost

Silversmith Fidelium speaker cables are thought to be a sonic bargain amongst many on this forum.

@el_it Audience is a solid recommendation. SR Foundation were not great in my system and certainly not a match for AZ Matrix II which I had and used in many iterations of my system including with B&Ws.

Audience OHNO XLRs should be good. 
Audience AU24SX speaker cables are just ridiculously good. I would spend less on interconnects and focus more on speaker cables first then power cords. 
 

I agree with calling TheCableCompany for advise and their lending library. I just received a Shunyata Research Venom X EF Power Cable, 1.75 meter. Shunyata stated for the price, the Venom X EF performs well outside of its cost, some have compared it directly to Delta NR v2 and feel it competes favorably in most applications.

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I also have the 803 D3s and an Oppo player. I'm using Anticables for speakers (bi-wired) and interconnects. Very happy with the sound.