- "Frank, there's only one "s" at the end of Douglas. You must have really made an impression on them. Congratulations."
I'm relieved to know that the spelling fascists are alive and well on this site. Thanks for the correction.
Frank
Buying from China
What do you think the impact will be in buying gear from China in the near future. Will the parts supply chain be depleted. Will part s other then those specify be substituted.? Will wait times for electrics will be extended. I can get pretty paranoid about it. Interested in the options of those with better insights. Should I wait awhile until things settle down befor I place my next order? I imagine things are going to be tough for the small hi end audio manufacturer.
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DTS is alive and well here in A'gon-land. *lol* Now then, speaking of the Rose Bowl ... That stadium holds 104,000 people. "Someone did something" and held a rally recently that could have filled that stadium to the hilt, and still had another 50,000 people outside the stadium looking at the big-screens. That's gotta hurt. Frank |
oregonpapa, I don't believe you. I first starting applying for jobs at about the same age in the mid 60's here in TN. And that question was on every job application I filled out. Maybe the places you worked at were owned by Communists and thus did not care about that. Or maybe they were owned by one of those white supremacist nutjob wannabe soldiers out there in Oregon. Who knows. |
True that. It started with a back injury, for which, he took oxycodone. He, like hundreds of thousands of other Americans, got "hooked" on the drug. Humans build up a tolerance to these drugs causing more to be used in order to attain the same level of pain relief. Therefore, at some point, the doctors, being surveilled by the DEA, refuse to refill prescriptions. At that point, the "addict" is forced to doctor shop, then seek out street dealers, and then possibly turn to heroin. Rush, to his credit, entered rehab and kicked the habit. If one hasn’t suffered from excruciating chronic pain ... well, perhaps one should walk in the moccasins of another before passing judgment. Frank |
So it's all about owning the other side. Some are still in high school. Rush was a repeat drug offender with about 2,000 violations in just 6 months, using that "hillbilly heroin", that led to his going completely deaf. He was investigated for over 3 years before getting off with a lenient sentence. I guess it pays to have connections in high, right wing places. His undocumented housekeeper made all the trips for him and vanished after the story broke. He should be serving a long sentence and this is the guy you're proud of? That whole charade was a disgrace, and a perfect example of the continuing improv act that's been going on for the last 3 years. All the best, Nonoise |
I started working (officially) in 1953, at the age of 14 when I was issued my Social Security Card. To date, I have NEVER been asked on a job application, or by an employer in any way, if I have ever belonged to the communist party. That included my first job out of high school at the Douglass Aircraft Company. What kind of employer would ask that? And, would I even want such a job? Frank |
oregonpapa is very very gullible if he believes those stories. There is NO WAY US manufacturing jobs are at the same level they were at 69 years ago. 69 years ago (1951) was likely the zenith of American industrial output and if anyone believes that same capacity now exists in this country they are living in a fantasy land. 69 years ago labor unions were strong, a man could work for a company at a good wage until he retired while his wife stayed home and raised the kids, and he had every expectation that his kids would be better off than he had been. If you or anyone else thinks that those conditions are present in this country now, well, you’re wrong. Our country has become a nation of consumers; we don’t make much of anything anymore other than cars and military items. If China ever develops a middle class equal to what the US used to have, then things MAY change but only in the sense that labor and manufacturing will then shift to India or Vietnam or The Phillipines or some other source of cheap labor. Kind of ironic; when I first began applying for jobs, every application asked if you are or ever have been a member of the Communist Party. Now we as workers have been sold out to those same Communists. That’s not winning. And I suggest millercarbon stick with the cult and idolize the raccoon eyed juvenile minded moron and pathological liar. Yeah, he’s gonna fix it. Hilarious. |
All empires fall ,how well the managment of the decline before the fall determines the longevity of the empire. The orange buffoon has only sped up the decline, facilitated by the Senate. Before long the orange buffoon will ride his horse into the chamber and declare himself a God and the sycophants will bow and demand we erect a statue. It will be orange in color and have small hands grabbing a 🐱. |
millercarbon For generations we have lived through the managed decline of America. A decline that seemed inevitable and was even gathering steam until the right man came down a certain escalator. Everything changed that day. The world is changing, and for the better. All thanks to the man who came down the escalator. >>>>Pewee Herman! Pewee’s Big Adventure. 🚲 |
So much immaturity, so little capacity for thought. My Melody was bought used and more than a dozen years ago. I guess by the "logic" of some around here that means my thinking has to be frozen, or I can’t change my mind without first divesting myself of every last remnant of what I thought years ago. Probably should just throw it all away. In order to satisfy the chatterers. As if that would do it. As if anything would. Jobs follow incentives. Buyers seek value. Pass regulations that make employment costly, make your fiat paper currency dear, don’t be surprised when jobs disappear. For generations we have lived through the managed decline of America. A decline that seemed inevitable and was even gathering steam until the right man came down a certain escalator. Everything changed that day. The world is changing, and for the better. All thanks to the man who came down the escalator. |
Both of those articles appear to get their facts from the same source and look like ad copy. Must be a slow news day. None of the jobs mentioned are actually happening being that they are all "planned." Good luck with that. A deeper look into real "manufacturing" jobs occurring reveal that about 80% of them employ 5 people or less. These are mom & pop businesses, like boutique soap makers. It makes for some great headlines and gives one a false sense of hope that we're finally turning that corner. All the best, Nonoise |
OK, laugh, I go for 'One World' but, I've lived thru a few 'buy america', 'made in america' campaigns. Typically short lived, they do influence buyers of finished products for a while, down at the more affordable, more consumer level. If volume of parts in those products drop off, there will be impacts implied by the OP. I am unable to laugh about anything in these political times. Don't forget, long before China, Japan was already crushing a great deal of manufacturing, until multi-nationals began building factories anywhere cheap labor could/can be found, not just China. They move them at will. |
After reading what elliotbnewcomb posted, and after climbing up off the floor from laughing, I wish to make a point. Corporate America sold out the American worker four decades ago in favor of cheap labor. Anybody that tries to tell you that ANY manufacturing jobs that have been lost from this country are "coming back" is either stupid or crazy. This especially includes trump. The ONLY way this will EVER happen is if the US government partially subsidizes the US company in question. Otherwise, that company will not be able to compete with the cheap foreign labor and will never make a profit. When Nixon "opened" China in 72 everyone thought it was great, and it was great if you happened to own a textile factory or furniture factory or an appliance manufacturing facility. It wasn't so great for the people that worked at those places, though. The chance that any significant amount of manufacturing jobs that have left the US coming back are about as good as the chance that 8 track tape will make a comeback. That's how capitalism works. |
nonoise Pick any discipline and you’ll find a gaggle of scam artists, con men, grifters and shady characters on one particular side, and they have this uncanny knack of drawing in dupes, marks, schmoes, and suckers. >>>>Can we please keep discipline out of this? Yuk, yuk. You can’t cheap an honest man and never wise up a chump. Besides, people would generally be much better off if they believed in too much rather than too little. |
Pick any discipline and you'll find a gaggle of scam artists, con men, grifters and shady characters on one particular side, and they have this uncanny knack of drawing in dupes, marks, schmoes, and suckers. Just a few days ago a mother lost her child to the flu. She followed a group of anti vaxers on facebook who told her that all she needed was breastmilk and herbs and to forgo her Rx for Tamiflu. The site she was on is ran by some asshole who has no dog in this fight as he doesn't have any kids but sells anti vaxer crap to the unwitting and ignorant. That kid would still be alive if her mother had half the brain of a jackass. All the best, Nonoise |
IPAK is the co-called “charity” research organization that Weiler set up. It stands for “Institute for Pure and Applied Knowledge” the pretentious & ironic name Weiler gave to an organization designed to manufacture negative studies on vaccines. IPAK, while appearing to be a legitimate un-biased research organization (they have a website and everything!) in reality is just a front to pass off anti-vaccine propaganda “research.” You want proof? Ask James to produce the positive studies on vaccines that IPAK has released. The other function IPAK serves is giving Weiler an outlet to accept monetary donations. I don’t question that some of the money goes to fund his anti-vaccine studies. However it appears a good amount of the money also funds…James himself. In fact, my investigation has led me to believe that James may have been living off donations funded by his followers for some time. If true, it’s unclear that his followers realize they are donating to pay his Netflix bill. Even Elmer Gantry had to eat. |
Humm, science research? Using the term “scientist” to describe someone who hasn’t done real science, especially with respect to vaccines, seems strange. I want to see the first authorship on a body of papers where clinical trials, epidemiological studies, or basic scientific research are described and analyzed that focuses on vaccines. The anti-vaccine world might want to tout James Lyons-Weiler as a scientist, but he doesn’t do basic scientific research, so that is a title that is probably undeserved. |
James Lyons-Weiler’s speculations and fear mongering just go to show how even a scientist can fall under the spell of antivaccine pseudoscience (or any other conspiracy theory-driven pseudoscience). My guess is that the Lyons-Weiler who once ran a genomics core would have recognized that the “science” that the antivaccine Lyons-Weiler of today is laying down is nothing more than wild speculation that’s based on only the thinnest of scientific gruel and highly unlikely to be true. More’s the pity. Even worse, because he has a background in molecular biology, his conspiracy theory will sound plausible to most lay people. I guess some never met a good conspiracy theory they didn't like. More idiocracy from anti- vaxxers. |
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glupson "Why can’t just use a good virus checker on your iPhone?"Because then we have to buy an iPhone. And that one is, I think, made in China. >>>>I knew one of you little fishies out there would take the bait. CHOMP! 🐠 |
Wow. Now the mods remove even science research. To protect the CCP. Guess I was right to call them mini-Mao. https://jameslyonsweiler.com/2020/01/30/on-the-origins-of-the-2019-ncov-virus-wuhan-china/ |
"Quality control (or lack of) issues are so endemic to Chinese manufacturing you need to think twice, or three or four times before buying anything from there."It surely seems that way, but I also have a feeling that quality control is good once you buy (relatively) more expensive items. Maybe it is that way everywhere. Sort of, you get what you pay for. I have an NAD amplifier from about twenty years ago and the box says "Made in China to NAD specifications". No quality issues with that one, Works just fine. At the same time, I have had some plastic toys that fell apart while being unpacked. It would be interesting to know which parts is OP concerned about. Many people modify their equipment by switching parts evven before they break. Many of the electronic parts may be readily available without ordering from China at the specific moment. |
mordicai I am guessing this it is not about personal equipment purchases. would you please clarify for me and others: are you a manufacturer, talking about needed ’parts’ orders? are you a re-seller of completed products? Are you concerned about delays in receiving parts or products? In any case, when you order, isn’t the price held? Will President Trump’s promotion of ’made in america’ influence/reduce purchase of Chinese (other foreign) products? |
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