Personally I would not be concerned about manufacturing capacity or supply chain issues in China until I go to a Wal Mart and see a lot of empty shelves. The mass market for clothing or televisions or toys will reveal evidence of Chinese problems far in advance of any niche market such as "high end" Chinese audio gear. Relax. |
Another option is to buy the Chinese stuff after it's already here in some importers stock. Look on Amazon and you can find something that does not have to be shipped from China. Besides, there's a cruise ship now that's been quarantined and has to stay at sea for who knows how long due to the coronavirus. That could be your Chinese gear stuck on there and it might have to be burned. Buy some of it that's already here. ok |
Frank, there's only one "s" at the end of Douglas. You must have really made an impression on them. Congratulations. |
That was my point; most people who disparage socialism don't even know what it is. |
After reading what elliotbnewcomb posted, and after climbing up off the floor from laughing, I wish to make a point. Corporate America sold out the American worker four decades ago in favor of cheap labor. Anybody that tries to tell you that ANY manufacturing jobs that have been lost from this country are "coming back" is either stupid or crazy. This especially includes trump. The ONLY way this will EVER happen is if the US government partially subsidizes the US company in question. Otherwise, that company will not be able to compete with the cheap foreign labor and will never make a profit. When Nixon "opened" China in 72 everyone thought it was great, and it was great if you happened to own a textile factory or furniture factory or an appliance manufacturing facility. It wasn't so great for the people that worked at those places, though. The chance that any significant amount of manufacturing jobs that have left the US coming back are about as good as the chance that 8 track tape will make a comeback. That's how capitalism works. |
Here where I grew up there is a Tennessee Eastman huge industrial complex, a huge Holston Army Ammunition Depot manufacturing facility, and what used to be the largest book printing facility in the world. All of them had the Communist Party question on their job applications. And, yeah, Nathan Bedford Forrest, the racist military genius, also came from here. And you have also given me some laughs. |
Don't mention it. And I am not the fascist here. I just thought that someone who worked at a company should be able to spell the name of that company unless they just swept the floor there. Sorry. |
Frank presumes to educate us on Communism and Socialism by quoting a wingnut. Maybe Frank doesn't comprehend that every cop, soldier, fireman, public school teacher, and any other municipal water or road worker is a socialist worker. I wonder if they know if they are being murdered or just committing suicide? |
oregonpapa is very very gullible if he believes those stories. There is NO WAY US manufacturing jobs are at the same level they were at 69 years ago. 69 years ago (1951) was likely the zenith of American industrial output and if anyone believes that same capacity now exists in this country they are living in a fantasy land. 69 years ago labor unions were strong, a man could work for a company at a good wage until he retired while his wife stayed home and raised the kids, and he had every expectation that his kids would be better off than he had been. If you or anyone else thinks that those conditions are present in this country now, well, you’re wrong. Our country has become a nation of consumers; we don’t make much of anything anymore other than cars and military items. If China ever develops a middle class equal to what the US used to have, then things MAY change but only in the sense that labor and manufacturing will then shift to India or Vietnam or The Phillipines or some other source of cheap labor. Kind of ironic; when I first began applying for jobs, every application asked if you are or ever have been a member of the Communist Party. Now we as workers have been sold out to those same Communists. That’s not winning. And I suggest millercarbon stick with the cult and idolize the raccoon eyed juvenile minded moron and pathological liar. Yeah, he’s gonna fix it. Hilarious. |
Well, Frank, you didn't know that the president is "invited" to give the SOTU. He does not invite or "sucker" them into attending. Nice try. |
Oh, sorry Frank, I must have gotten Douglas and Boeing mixed up. I am not even certain if Boeing is in OR or WA but your screen name made me "assume" you're in Oregon, next door to Washington. |
".....this thread will be gone..."Not unless a snowflake whines about it. Whining; there will be so much whining, you’ll get tired of whining. Yeah. I’m there. |
oregonpapa Frank last evening quoted Ayn Rand and espoused his rabid hate and fear for socialism; that made me think about his statement that he started working at age 14 in 1953, which would make him over 80 years old now. I wonder how Frank feels about getting a socialist check in his bank account each month for the past fifteen years and how he would compensate for it were it not forthcoming each month. |
US Navy
Watkins Engineering
Newport News Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co.
Hayes & Lunsford Electrical Contractors
That covers nearly fifty years and I can spell all of them without being a fascist or a member of a cult. |
oregonpapa, I don't believe you. I first starting applying for jobs at about the same age in the mid 60's here in TN. And that question was on every job application I filled out. Maybe the places you worked at were owned by Communists and thus did not care about that. Or maybe they were owned by one of those white supremacist nutjob wannabe soldiers out there in Oregon. Who knows.
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Almost forgot; Frank fails junior high civics. The president is invited to Congress to deliver the SOTU speech. He didn't sucker anyone other than gullible folks like you. |
Frank says most high school kids don't know when the government is taking advantage of them. Yet Frank apparently doesn't realize that the government is taking advantage of all of us when they take money from us and give it to hedge fund magnates and investment bank CEO's while those corporate titans pay NO income tax. The raccoon eyed anus mouth moron and pathological liar recently gave them another big tax cut and is figuring on another one before the end of the year. But Frank doesn't see this as being taken advantage of. Maybe when they start cutting his Social Security benefits he will begin to understand who is really taking advantage of who. |
If you are pulled over on the interstate and the cops find ten thousand dollars cash in your car, there's a very very good chance they will "suspect" that your money is the proceeds of drug dealing or money laundering or whatever lame reason they can conjure up. And they will take that money as well as your car. Even if you had just come from the bank after taking that money from your account in order to buy a motorcycle from a seller who insisted on cash, you will be victimized by the state and it will take you perhaps several years to prove your innocence. I didn't vote for that. This kind of thing never used to happen until the fear and hate of Bush's global war on terror came along, and with it, the militarization of local cops and sheriff departments. The above scenario does not have a hint of "due process" anywhere in it. |
