I love Tidal. The sound quality from its Hifi mode (lossless) is truly amazing and awesome. I have lot's of SACDs and lossless on even old recordings in 16/44 rivals it. If you felt sorry that there was not enough Hires content, try Tidal. My little Chord Hugo dac produces sound that is about on par with my EMM XDS1 cdp. The Tidal streaming even sounds better than the Hires downloads I tried from Acoustic Sounds and Musicdirect. I'm not kidding. I hope people support this because I don't want it to go out of business. Please give it a try. I'm just a user and longtime audiophile with no other interest than keeping this remarkable service alive so I and others can use it.
Roon also supports an iPad app/remote - essentially a beautiful remote front-end to Tidal (which Roon integrates with perfectly). The ipad remote really does take the experience to a new level and makes the music experience more immersive. Roon also allows me to integrate with HQPlayer so I’m upsampling all Tidal to DSD and outputting that to my Lampizator Big 7 DSD dac. The result is pretty glorious.
Just to note I think Audirvana can provide a similar integration vs. HQPlayer but Audirvana is iOS only I believe (the source of your music needs to be an Apple machine), whereas HQPlayer integrates in my Windows 10 machine (which is my source for Roon and Tidal, with USB to my Lampizator Dac). Note, the Roon iPad app needs to be a 64-bit one (the older 32 bit ones won’t work). HQPlayer’s interface is terrible, but once you’ve set some settings (like DSD and a filter of your choice) you then don’t have to touch HQPlayer again - Roon becomes the only interface you need to interact with, and Roon’s interface is surely the very best user experience in music available; it’s not perfect, but it’s close - especially so from an audiophile’s perspective as it provides a depth of control over the experience if you need such control but doesn’t interfere with your experience otherwise. It’s a thoughtful and will considered design with the audiophile in mind.
I really hope Apple doesn’t screw up Tidal, if they do complete the acquisition. Though I have many Apple products I have little confidence in their approach to music (Case in point - it’s amazing that upstarts like Tidal and Spotify were able to gain such a commanding share of what should have been a mature online music market, and one which Apple had all the opportunity to own but didn’t, because they didn’t figure it out. Am not sure now if they’ve figured it out...).
Count me in as another Tidal fan. So much music - too little time! I am a relative tyro with it but let me share how I enjoy it in 4 different settings:
In my main system, I run the latest version of Audirvana + on a Mac Mini which now supports Tidal. An available A+ remote app allows control of Audirvana (and Tidal functions) remotely on iOS devices. I probably listen to Tidal least in this system preferring to wallow in the glory of my musty vinyl collection here.
In our main living area, I use a Sonos Connect amp to drive Sonus Faber Guarneri speakers and a Rel sub. I access Tidal (and my digital music files on a NAS drive) with the Sonos app. I listen to Tidal most of the time here - the sound is unbelievably good.
In my office, I stream Tidal from their website on my Macbook via a Logitech bluetooth to RCA adaptor that feeds a 20 year old JVC mini-system. Amazing sound.
Finally, I have a couple of Sonos Play 3 speakers. We stream music from my library and Tidal through these out in the yard. Absolutely knocks the socks off my aged contemporaries when they are over as I stream from the "Retro" genre on Tidal. Sounds like crap but it's the music that matters.
Sonos and Tidal have changed the way I listen to music...in a very positive way.
I had the same question and actually started a thread about this very question. I'm being told I have to use Chrome Remote Desktop. I should be able to control my Mac mini from my ipad. Didn't try it yet.
As I understand it, TIDAL will only play back Hi-Fi using Google Chrome. Also, it is my understanding that TIDAL will only play on one device at a time if you have a single user account.
So to the point, is it possible to use an iPad or iPod to remote control my PC running Chrome? What options, if any, are available to control TIDAL from my listening position? My PC is directly connected to a gateway via Ethernet. The only thing I can think of is maybe screen mirroring?? I can not afford at this time to add any additional hardware to my audio system, such as a network streaming player.
The volume control on the Chrome GUI in TIDAL, if you lower it, are you loosing "bits" or is it more like an analogue control and not loosing resolution?
It’s just a volume control. No other function. You're not losing anything but gain by lowering it.
One more question already asked on this post but no reply yet.
The volume control on the Chrome GUI in TIDAL, if you lower it, are you loosing "bits" or is it more like an analogue control and not loosing resolution? I would like to drop the volume on TIDAL to match my other components, but am afraid it would not be loss-less.
I'm streaming TIDAL on my PC using the Chrome interface to listen in HI-FI. My PC is then connected to my DAC using a high quality TOSLINK cable and a good sound-card on the PC.
The problem I am having is that whenever TIDAL posts an update, and I install it, I loose "HI-FI". I can still stream high quality or low quality, but not Hi-Fi. To get around this I have to uninstall Chrome and then reinstall it and then I get my Hi-Fi back. I have not yet found a way to "ignore" the update and for all but one update I have had to reinstall Chrome.
Anybody else having this problem? Is there maybe something in Chrome that is not set up correctly? Its not hard to uninstall and reinstall Chrome, but I don't understand why this is happening??
devilboy, it's because when you use tracks on the Ipad, you are using Tidal on Ipad. See my other post, you can't do it this way (without a seperate app) with Tidal.
@devilboy Ok perhaps some clarification, do you mean an Auralic Aries Mini? If so you need to download the DS Lightning Server app from Auralic onto your ipad, and then you can control Tidal via that app. I hope that makes sense.
I bought a brand new Mini and new ipad. I get "hifi" quality on Tidal when using the computer and monitor. However, I can't control Tidal with my ipad. When I choose tracks with the ipad the sound comes through the ipad's speakers only. My ipad surfs the internet just fine as it and my new Time Capsule "see" each other perfectly. I just can't control Tidal with the Ipad and make the music come through the main system FROM THE IPAD. What am I doing wrong?
If you are having buffering issues, you don't have the throughput. You say you have 'decent' speeds. Decent is fine for spotify and MP3s but if you want to dance with Tidal, you need 'fast' not 'decent'. Tidal is the real deal. All else pale. If you can't run Tidal, fix the shortcomings in your system so you can enjoy it. .
Someone help me. I have an old Mac Mini (2009, version 10.5.8). I have 3 problems: 1) Tidal says lossless is only sent via the "hifi" setting, and Google chrome is needed for hifi. I can't get Google chrome on app store cuz 10.5.8 won't accept it. So should I download 10.6 (but doing so might result in a loss of items or music from my mini). Or should I take this opportunity to get a newer, faster mini with SS drive?
2) Can I control Tidal from my Android phone while my dac plays Tidal? Can I control volume from my phone too? If I have to get up and change music from the mouse and keyboard then forget Tidal.
3) My phone "pairs" with my computer but my computer (or airport express), can't pair with my phone. The computer sees the LG4 phone, but won't connect.
Alao, do i run a hard wire from my airport to my computer?
Sorry for all the questions. I'm just pretty stuck here.
These
recordings were created from a compilation from Philip O’Hanlon's SACD
collection that he played at 2016 T.H.E. Show. These songs are terrific.
The link to
Tidal is below. If you save it as a favorite (need Tidal subscription),
it will remain in your playlist section in Tidal. I keep all of
Phillip’s playlists on Tidal.
See www.onahighernote.com for a list of all of Philip's playlists that are available on Tidal. Find the playlist you want, sign into Tidal and make the playlist your favorite. The new playlist will be stored on your Tidal account for future use.
Jer, You above post indicates "The biggest deal breaker for you is buffering". When I first started using Tidal Streaming, I also had buffering problems and it was driving me crazy. I had no problems with other programs, or activities, using my Internet connection. After days of research, I finally discovered that my router was not handling music streaming packages correctly under some conditions (creating random data drops). Other people reported similar hardware data drops using the same router. I replaced my router with the Apple AirPort Extreme Router and all my buffering problems went away. I do not know if replacing your router will solve the problem but it might be worth doing to see what happens. Your 200Mbps download 25Mbps upload speed are fine and should not be a problem.
Are you using an Ethernet connection or Wi-Fi for your Tidal Streaming. Ethernet is the best connection since Wi-Fi could be a problem depending on how far away you are from your router. If you are using Wi-Fi, an extender might be required to help boast the signal. The Ethernet connection should be plugged directly into your router and NOT the switch box.
If you continue to have buffering problems, please send a request to Tidal and ask them for help. They might have some thoughts to solve the buffering problems. It could be a memory problems on your computer or something similar.
Please send a request to Tidal to report their UI needs improvement. You might also indicate where you are having problems. I use Tidal on my Aurender and the user interface is fine. I hope the above helps.
Giving Tidal hifi a second try about a year later. It's still just ok. It's catalog still seems incomplete.I get about 70% when importing playlists. The front page is filled with beyonce and rap. Not my taste.Overall the UI needs serious improvement.
Really weak with triphop and downtempo which is what I listen to for background music. Most mainstream 60's70's80's and classic rock is there. The biggest deal breaker for me is buffering. I am curious where the servers are located. I am in LA area. No other program, gaming, streaming service has this issue and I have decent speeds. 200Mbps download 25Mbps upload. Will most likely not renew
The sound quality from Tidal is definitely better (44.1k/16 bit is markedly better sounding than 320k MP3). When I go to find albums, not all of them are available on Tidal, same with Spotify, but maybe to a lesser extent, not enough to be concerned about.
theo1124, Please send your feedback about missing classical artists and albums to Tidal Streaming. While there is no guarantee they will include the items you listed above, it is very important for them to hear their classical musical catalog needs to be updated with additional artists, etc. Tidal needs to hear from its users what classical (or other) artists and recordings are missing from their catalog. Unfortunately, I know that Tidal needs a legal contract with the artists and/or distributor of these recordings so this process may take some time. There is a artist feedback form on their web site to summit your requests. Thanks.
I listen to classical 90% of the time and use Spotify Premium as a supplement to my vinyl collection. I recently bought a terrific Cambridge Audio CXN streamer so I decided to try Tidal again. Of course the sound is great but for Classical Music Tidal leaves a lot to be desired. If you do a search for Sibelius, for example, you get a listing for records for a mixed bag of composers, many having nothing to do with Sibelius. The listings are very limited and incomplete.They seem to have some kind of generic album listings for many composers that comprise some sort of assembled playlist and are not specific recordings by some artist, orchestra or conductor. Compared to Spotify or Naxos/Classicsonline they are not good and the improvement in sound quality does not make up for the poor selection of artists and recordings. I will cancel Tidal again when this monthly billing is used up. For the money and for my ears Spotify Premium fills the bill. I use it to explore music and composers so when I find something I really like I find a vinyl recording for my library.
Heads up to anyone (like me) using Amarra for Tidal. I just checked and you can now download the Amarra for Tidal remote for iOS from the App Store. I haven’t had a chance to use it yet, but the video that Sonic Studio posted looks good! I’ll try it tomorrow. It’s way way past my bedtime.
This is an outstanding list of excellent recordings assembled by Philip from On Higher Note (Luxman, Mola-Mola, Vivid speakers, etc) and Randy Cribb of Audio Advice for Tidal. If you do not have Tidal Streaming, maybe you should consider it. Uncompressed music at $19.95 per month. This playlist is has great songs and is wonderful to listen to.
Please see the link below for "ClassicsOnline HD•LL. It is the first HD (high-definition) and Lossless (CD quality) classical music streaming service".
www.classicsonlinehd
The info below was copied from their web site:
"ClassicsOnline HD•LL is the first HD (high-definition) and Lossless (CD quality) classical music streaming service to use adaptive bitrate streaming technology which allows subscribers to listen to classical music at the highest possible sound quality available on their home or mobile networks with minimal loss of sound quality. Over 60,000 classical music albums from the world’s most pristine labels including Naxos, Sony Classical, Harmonia Mundi, Chandos and many, many more are available for streaming and downloading at recording quality up to 192khz/24bit. Full album downloads are also available in high-definition, lossless (CD Quality), and MP3 formats.
ClassicsOnline HD•LL offers a wide range of classical music from the world’s leading independent and major labels for both streaming and downloading. High Definition (HD) recordings which exceed CD quality are available as are CD quality recordings which we call "Lossless".
Over 60,000 albums are available from hundreds of labels including: Harmonia Mundi, Sony Classical, BIS, Chandos, Naive, Naxos, BBC Legends, LSO Live, Pentatone, Ondine, Delos , Signum, Hungaraton, and many more. To see the complete list of labels currently on ClassicsOnline HD•LL, go to "Search," click on the "Advanced" box, and open up the "Label" dropdown box. All albums available to download are also available for streaming with a streaming subscription.
ClassicsOnline HD•LL subscribers stream at the highest audio bit-rate quality that the network connection can support. With a good network connection, subscribers can stream 16-bit and 24-bit music. No other music access service streams lossless audio higher than 16-bit, 44.1 kHz quality today utilizing our advanced "Adaptive Bit Rate Streaming" technology. The cost is $14.99 for a monthly subscription (First 28 days of listening FREE) or $149 for a yearly subscription (receive 2 months free)”.
Tidal Streaming Customer Service is excellent. For example, I asked "Does Tidal have playlists for Classical music?". Their response is below:
"You can go to genres, and then select classical music. Here you will see a variety of content. While this is not our entire classical music catalog, this is just a start. We have playlists, albums, and some featured tracks on the genre page.
If you go to the Artist / Composer page you can use the appears on section to find albums where that Artist / Composer is featured a long side with other classical music. I find the Appears On section on the the best for finding new music based on an Artist that I enjoy listening to.
Another alternative is to use our partner Roon. They have spent years developing a huge metadata search engine which provides users with some incredible search flexibility and power. Roon is a paid service, but they do offer a 30 day trial. Here you can search for your favorite composer and see every instance of their work on TIDAL.
For classical music lovers, it is definitely an application to check out".
Roon looks very interesting. Does anyone have any experience using Roon?
Of course I would never do this, but, I can take the digital out of my transporter and connect in to the digital in of my alesis cd burner and you can burn tidal playlists (and albums) onto cd. You would need to do the meta data manually but you can bring those tunes into your car (or bring a compilation disc into the offic, give as gifts).
100 Tracks 03.04.2015, Acoustic Covers, Working Class Rock and Spotify 60-80s playlists have been described above. For example, as noted above, "The 100 Track Playlist" was created by Chris Connaker of Computer Audiophile. If I do not know the name of a playlist, where do I search in Tidal to find what other playlists that are available (non Tidal created)? Is there a playlist for classical music?
I finally found 100 Tracks 03.04.2015 and agree that it is a "musical goldmine". Did Tidal create this playlist? If not, who did? Is the 100 Tracks 03.04.2015 playlist fixed or will the tracks change (be updated) over time? Is there a similar playlist for classical music?
Cerrot is absolutely correct! Playlist "100 Tracks 03.04.2015" is a musical goldmine! Thanks. After 10 minutes I can already see I'm going to like this service a lot.
VERY sorry for my typo MoFi... did not even realize until now. Spent all niht listening to that, and made many of those tunes "favorites" so exploring those artists now. Cecil Mclorin Salvant is aewesome.
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