Aggrivated tinnitus from speakers?

You must have the ears of a bat?  18k tinitus, amazing.  

   I suffer from long term exposure to firearms , racing and live music. About 10 years ago I rethought my system, and went with low power tubes. Since my price point is pretty modest I run a basic tube pre, SEP tube amp and 97 db speakers. I have the room heavily dampened and avoid the use of silver in all my cables. I did extensive tube rolling and run Telefunken NOS small tubes and dropped my rectifier tube to a lower power and this provides a very smooth but linear response. Last year I rotated in a SS amp at 60wpc, and if I listen too loud I pay for it. Where I really have to be careful is in the car and wearing headphones. I miss loud off axis music that shakes the house , but late night listening at low volume to someone like Diana Krall is absolutely amazing. But I had to give up listening to her husband at 95 db. In retrospect I’ve struggled my whole life understanding the lyrics and now they are crystal clear. Now if I could only spell. Happy Hunting, Mike B. 

I've also had tinnitus for years. Who knows from what. When I was in boot camp way back in the mid 60's, we took a battery of aptitude tests. My highest score was in sonar. So I figure I had pretty good hearing back then.

Tinnitus is difficult to measure because It is not an exterior source but your brain filling in perceived blanks. Mine seems to vary in intensity from who knows what. I've had many of the risk factors mentioned so I can't really say if any or all are factors. Firearm exposer, Coca Cola (really!) rock concerts, pantoprazole and (legal) opioids.

Some here need to dismount their high horses. My issue predates COVID by a long shot and I am fully vaccinated. Additionally, Think about your specific hardware condemnations or suggestions. Are you really helping or just advocating for your own biases. Dismissing an entire line of products is not productive.

There is a source of tinnitus aggravation or cause but not well spoken about because of censorship and denials...

The link under is in french but google translation work well ...

I hope it can help some ...

Even in this thread there is at least two posters  who suspect the Vaxx as being the cause of this proven adverse event :

https://www-vaccin--covid--acouphenes-com.translate.goog/?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en

This one is the french tinnitus twitter association from vaxx :

https://twitter.com/VaxC19Acouphene

We are no more in the biases zone... Studies and testimonies around the vaxx emerge in spite of censorship ...

Tinnitus is not a light problem... It can be disturbing problem....

Information is key....

Interesting. I too suffer from Tinnitus, or at least some form of damage caused by my work environment. My left ear only.

The interesting thing I find is that it seems to be worse when streaming. Listening to vinyl or CD’s does not seem to be as much of an issue. I don’t actually know if its is Tinnitus to be exact but I get pain in my left ear after some time. I know there is some frequency loss as well as I hear much more highs in my right ear.

I have known this for some time from my work life but it has really come to bother me now after pouring out a nice chunk of money on a major audio upgrade. I think I will see my doctor for some further advice or solution, if that is possible at all.

Just when I bought nice kit, too!

Update on Neuromod Lenire device....the wife and me acquired 2 units from an Audiology clinic in Edina MN on last week Wed Dec 20. We have each been doing the one hour treatment daily sine then. It consists of BT headphones, a wired tongue tip device and a cell phone sized device programmed specifically for each of our tinnitus profiles. It s a 30 minute soundtrack of rain / light t storm background with slow moving cello / synth tune that repeats over and over, along with a staccato (think 32nd notes) playing along the same tune two registers above the cello. So far no great changes although there does seem to be some slowly evolving quieter periods dueing the day. Was mentioned not to expect much for at least 6 weeks or so.....will update again mid Feb.  

I have Menieres Syndrome in my L ear, a symptom of which is low frequency loss, and tinnitus.  it goes into remission for 6-7 years and then rages for a month or so, and then reduces.  The tinnitus never goes away but it does get quieter, when in remission.  A couple of weeks ago when I had an active attack, I literally couldn't hear anything in my L ear.  Now, hearing is back for the most part, tinnitus is down.  My MD put me on a 4 day lemon juice/water fast and my tinnitus went from a 7 to a 3.  There is an entire thread on hearing aids here as well, which many have said actually improves the tinnitus and makes their stereo sound better.

I have been interested in identifying the frequency of my hiss.  it's frustrating that there is no treatment for tinnitus that works.  A recent study on the NIH website shows that the use of Far Infrared laser in the ear canal, coupled with Gingko Biloba was statistically better than the control group, so there you go.

It's frustrating . . . my favorite way to relax is to listen to music and I have a pretty good system for that.  The tinnitus just messes up the soundstage, and pisses me off.  That concludes my rant.

Bringing up an old thread.  Earlier in this thread I mentioned I had the Polk R700s and they were tinitus friendly.  Since then I got the audiophile itch to upgrade speakers and bought the horn loaded Klipsch Cornwall IVs.  Users and reviewers said they were great at low volumes, so I thought I could get full dynamic sounds at low levels.  I modded the crossovers with V-Cap Odam capacitors and Path Audio resistors, and I dampened the midrange and the horn loaded titanium tweeter. To go with it I have the Laiv Harmony DAC and still the McIntosh 8950 integrated amp.  Cables are all Audio Envy USB, PC for streamer, and Hijiri Tukumi  for the amp.   So, despite everything I put in front including cables, with the Klipsch I have noticed my tinnitus has seemed to have gotten worse.  My system doesn't sound bright or hard, except for when one of those type of recordings come on.  I'm not sure why the issue has gotten worse.  I don't really listen loud, but because it sounds so enjoyble I do listen for long periods.   Maybe duration is the issue?  Maybe the titanium tweeter?  Anyway, it got me wondering about maybe another speaker change and go with a tinnitus friendly design.  Mihorn posted about the KEFs, maybe not the safest route but I do want to audition the KEF Reference 5 Metas because I like their looks.  

OP Aggrivated tinnitus from speakers?

I had severe tinnitus for many years. Tinnitus has disappeared after my system’s sound became natural like the right speaker in below.

All audio systems in the world sound like the left speaker in below. No wonder so many people suffer from tinnitus since they hear the harsh sound like the left one (brain must process that crazy sound) and they don’t even know it. I’m sure your tinnitus will be better if your system sounds more natural which is easy to achieve.

https://youtu.be/IHf_FSa8amE?si=BWt42OA_PScXh8cH

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Littleman, any progress to report on your Lenire treatment?  I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on purchasing the kit and would love to hear (no pun intended) your progress, thanks .

Update on Lenire treatment..it has been one year and a month since we (me and wife) acquired the Lenire devices. It is time for us to repurchase the tongue tips (at app 350 a piece) as the first ones are rapidly fading....supposedly a separate battery for them. We both believe that there has been a small amount of mitigation to the tinnitus we each have since a year ago. Not sure if it is worth it, nor are we certain of whether it is actually "working" or is this a bias / placebo expectation working. It's a lot of money to purchase these devices....if your considering it, do go to a highly reputable audiologist in your area....read the reviews, etc. How they are setup and tuned is an important part of the process. Hope it works well for those are proceeding with it....and please provide updates here.

knock on wood by my tinnitus while listening is almost non existent the last couple of days.  I think what set me off when I posted was I was listening to a lot of synth wave/dark wave complitions on You Tube via my tv>>hdmi cord going into the DAC on my McIntosh integrated.  That genre and my source (tv)were probably the culprit to setting it off.  The last few days I have been listening to my streamer>>Laiv DAC>>anaglog RCA input on the McIntosh inegrated. So far so good.  

Alcohol (Sir-Drink-A-Lots need to make a choice) and hypertension are big tinnitus culprits, not to mention medications, etc. 

73 yrs old and started 1980 and I slept with it until 10 yrs ago when the pitch doubled in sound..So every nite take a sleeping pill or I do not sleep...I worked in ship building welding and chipping guns all around for 42 years.But still have very sensitive hearing .Always having Solid state Amps and never gave thought to tube amps..Until 2019 with Raven Audio ad said 45 days trial and thinking I am not going to hear anything different. Well ears are ringing and I hear all the detail above and below my ringing and was amazed at what I heard coming from the music..And purchased Raven Speakers and even more detail I never heard.. I found that I could not go over 75db and can not play longer than 45 minutes and there are days now I do not hear my tinnitus ringing .. I listen to soft music and Oldies and it relaxes me ..I just spent money that I was scared to spend on Raven Audio Reflection just what more could I hear... Well few weeks of breaking in Reflection I am one happy tube steer junkie.. But limited to time and db levels but once a week during winter only I enjoy the music.. I have found the sweet spot on my speakers and center of speakers are ear level and pitched ion maybe few degrees ..We all have something to deal with for sure but try and make the best of it..

Littleman, any progress to report on your Lenire treatment?  I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on purchasing the kit and would love to hear (no pun intended) your progress, thanks .

I had a pair of O/93's that made my ears ring. Tried 2 rooms and different amps and cables with no luck. It's a shame because I loved the sound and what they were capable of. 15 or so other pairs of speakers (including the same brand) and never experienced anything like this. 

Only thing I could think of is sound pressure triggered something. Gave it 6 months, good luck with your issue.