@forestg
My dimensions are 15.5' x 26' and it's a dedicated room.
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@ozzy62
its not only Klipsch that get bashed, but Golden Ear as well. The people that scream the loudest are the ones who have never heard them. |
Would any of the owners of the current Klipsch IV lineup be so kind as to post the approximate dimensions of their respective rooms?
My next speaker purchase is going to be one from the Klipsch Heritage line (now that the Forte IV is out). I need to audition all 3, but I know my room is going to have a huge impact on which one I should buy. Also, if you could supply the distance between the speakers I’d be most appreciative.
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Head throbbing treble. Searing treble w wrong amp.
To much treble.
As mentioned. How much is klipscch paying you. ????? Spoken like a true neophyte. Have you heard any of the recent klipsch offerings? My guess would be “no”. It’s always fashionable to bash klipsch speakers so newbies like to pile on and virtue signal. It’s what they do. Oz |
I have owned Klipsch(Heritage and Reference) speakers for the last 15 years and have never experienced that "piercing" treble that chases one out of the room. Source, amplification, placement/toe-in, room acoustics, all come in to play with Klipsch(and others) speakers and sometimes it requires some work to get it "right".
Bill |
Head throbbing treble. Searing treble w wrong amp.
To much treble.
As mentioned. How much is klipscch paying you. ????? |
I have owned klipsch speakers in the past that I felt needed and benefitted from various upgrades. Even though better crossover parts would surely be an improvement, I don’t have any issues at all with the CW IV that lead me down that road. In my opinion, they need not apologize for any facet of their performance.
Oz
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Love my Cornwalls!
Cornwall II, decorators. When I got them, they were black, hand painted with a brush - a few times. Previous owner got them from a bar. Even had chicken wire protecting the woofer. Not pretty, but sounded really good. They had both the Crites XOvers and Tweeters. I did extensive bracing - side/side - front/back - motor board - corners - port shelf. Also damped the midrange horn with spray/damping material on the outside to get rid of the ringing.
They were brought up a bunch of notches because of these tweaks/mods.
So yes, upgrades from the factory make a difference. Previous bike was a BMW S1000RR. A beast by any measure. Swapped out the pipe, added 8hp to it (on a 450lb machine that approx 200hp, it made a difference...) Did I have to do this? No, of course not. Did it "go" better? Yes, it did. (And it sounded better...)
Crossover components matter, a lot. So if you can get them to sound better with comparatively few dollars, why would you not do that???
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Agree with garbage crossovers. Great speakers. Buy new crossovers from alk engineering and they really sing."
I agree with all of this but it is amazing how special these straight from the factory speakers are with the lowly junk crossovers. There are a bunch of shade tree mechanics in the Klipsch Heritage "fan boy" groups and we have to let them tweak a bit. Is it really any different than a C7 Corvette owner buying performance parts to squeeze out more performance? Out of the box the C7 can hold it's own against exotic cars double it's price. Pretty special car at it's price point even with it's not so exotic archaic pushrod engine.
Bill |
@kcpellethead The CW IV is very satisfying without subs. But I have a large room and like the added fill at the lower frequencies. Most people would probably be fine with the speakers sans subs.
Oz |
I am loving these .... I went to buy my daughter a soundbar, and listened to the Heresy IV.. . Almost bought Forte III but out of stock,, so timing was perfect. Some have called them Baby Cornwall IV....not so sure about that. But they do possess the sonic signature of the CW. Bass is great but not quite the pitch definition of the Cornwall. Beautiful midrange, no harshness or fatigue on the top end . The Klipsch detractors should give them a listen.
Driving them with a pair of Quicksilver Mid Monos and c-j Classic 2SE preamp.
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@ozzy62 - Do you feel you need the subs with the Cornwall IV?
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mickeyb
which ALK extreme crossover set are foe the CW4?... |
Agree with garbage crossovers. Great speakers. Buy new crossovers from alk engineering and they really sing. |
Man would love to hear some properly setup 4s. Anyone in West to Central Mi willing to do a demo please let me know. I love the look and that they are US made. |
@kcpellethead
once they break in I think you will be mightily impressed. |
F U cornwall 3’s and 4’s!
sincerely,
my Cornwall I’s |
I grabbed a pair of Cornwall IV on impulse a couple months ago. They’re still breaking in, so I haven’t tried changing out components with them yet, but I swapped out speaker cables and was surprised how much it changed the presentation. On a side note, despite knowing their dimensions, and thinking I had plenty of space for them, they are huge in my listening area. |
The only big negative with all klipsch speakers and I owned most of them including the Cornwall junk Xover parts look inside China special , I rebuilt several including the heresy 3 I sold fully upgraded
i culdnot believe even with the K horn maybe $100 worth of parts
when you upgrade to premium capacitors,resistors, and inductors
then they are special the Xover being the ❤️,or brain 🧠 of all speakers using more then one driver is critical ,I have written to them many times ,they refuse to listen ,all about max profit.
that’s why I consider Spatial audio labs , a great speaker especially
their X3,X5 which I plan on getting. |
If you ever hear the mid 60s cornwall with the electrovoice and university drivers in it you will really love the sound of the cornwall it is a different speaker than the new one.
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For anyone that thought I was one of the haters from my post, I assure you that's not the case........... |
Love my Cornwall 3's. I feel sorry for the haters. They really don't know what they are missing. |
I’d probably have a pair by now if I had the right spot for them. Always tempted to not think so much and just pull the trigger, just for kicks....🧐.
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@oddiofyl , Man, You have the Forte IVs!? I sold my Forte IIIs in December 2020 to make way for the Cornwalls. I would love to hear the IVs. I bet you are loving them. The IIIs were fantastic, and yours are certainly improved. |
Same thing with Forte IV , especially when changing tube types. Think I have everything dialed in and they sound fantastic. The detractors have probably not even heard the new Heritage line. Best speaker I've ever owned . |
I have Heresy IV’s and love them more as time goes on. I bought them with the preconceived notion they would be good but can get unruly on the top end, are a bit unrefined but can really rock. When I received them I was *almost* disappointed in how refined and warm they are.
fast forward about 9 months and I’m still in love. Like the OP said, and unlike my previous Focals, these will allow you to hear each change up the line. I back them with a pair of Rythmik subs and am ecstatic. |
Ozzy, isn’t it great to get these checks? Do you think they’d be open to direct deposit? |
I wish they were paying me! I need a benefactor here.
If you’re the curious and adventurous type in the hobby, these speakers could spell trouble for you. Time to get back to the music.
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Hey JB...I know how you feel. (Disregard the haters) Its the super efficiency of the Klipsch Heritage group. I104db @ 1 watt RMS into 8 Ohms) Any change in kit is amplified in its noticeable impact. Early on I wondered why "everything" made a such a difference. Almost every criticism leveled at LaScalas are due to this "hidden feature". They are picky about who they play well with! They have "evolved" from the shrill, bass shy, tunnel horn, PA speakers into invisible transparent magic machines allowing me to listen INTO the sound stage. Best of all, they are wonderfully crystal clear at low volumes. (Which is another weird "hidden feature" since they are capable of truly rock concert volumes with no fear of driver destruction.) Each upgrade around them will be abundantly revealed and rewarded. FUN! I know this because I bought these first and then upgraded every else second. Do I get my check now? |
@jbhiller is getting slightly more than me, but I’ve been on the payroll a little longer.
So here is my obligatory Cornwall plug of the week. The Cornwall IV is an awesome speaker and you should buy a pair.
Now I just sit back and wait on the check. Bet you wish you had a gig like this.......... |
How much is Klipsch paying you? |
