Testing Ethernet switch


If you have bought an "audio" Ethernet switch, don't bother with this thread 

If you question Ethernet switches, here is one test of one brand. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMFQ3YvR3Eo&t=914s

 

tvrgeek

"Hans said he had no idea what it could be, but he THINKS he heard it. 

One more time, an extra ordinary claim needs extra ordinary proof."

Not even close.  He has reviewed a number of network switches and filters and found significant differences.  It's not something "he thinks he heard".  To quote the latest video on the subject, "there should not be a difference between an audiophile switch or network filter being in place, or not.  But there is.  There CLEARLY is."

As I said in POST ONE, if you are a believer, this thread is not for you. It is for those who do not understand the technology to be able to make up their own mind."   

 

🤣🤣🤣.  All post one did was announce you as a troll.

Not flat out impossible. You stated earlier in this thread “that (noise) should be handled by the client”. 

Ideally yes. In practice? Perhaps no.

I have offered more evidence of the possibility of why things sound different than you have offered proof of the impossibility of such. We both have beliefs supported by anecdotal evidence - neither of us have solid proof. I acknowledge that. You do not. You are beholden to dogma as much as any of us, but lack the self awareness to acknowledge as much. 

And I can’t help but go back to the notion that you have accused ALL makers of such devices of devious, dishonest practices. This is a claim you cannot (or have not to date) back up with facts, though you keep repeating the same idea that measured noise is irrelevant. Nor are you even willing - by your own admission - to investigate further as quoted below: 

“If ANY obscure possibility existed for what is claimed, yes I would try one. I await said evidence.”

I have offered exactly that. Exactly. You have declined and accused all manufacturers of such devices to be scammers. 

Perhaps you have been trolling us and i fell for it. No more. As you can’t add to the discussion or knowledge base, I’m out.

 

When you have more technical knowledge some things look obvious that others can’t see. For instance, if someone claimed the system sounded better if there was a 10 gallon vat of steaming split pea soup in the room, most would be skeptical, as we can’t imagine how such a thing could have any impact on the system and the sound that comes out.

So, to me, when there is talk of changing the nature of the ethernet infrastructure, I can see things that most people cannot due to an understanding of physics and digital technology, and such things appear to be completely out of the ream of something that can impact the sound, unless there are some sort of EMI emissions that get into the analog realm. The beauty of digital is that an accurate bitwise copy is always available. Once those bits get into a dac, well that is where a lot of variability can exist. Same with the rest of the analog realm--extremely complex interactions in the overall system.

So, that is how it looks to me. Not going to convince any who has a strong feeling on the subject, but again, we want to make sure noobs hear a few options. At the very least, its safe to say invest in good electronics and maybe room treatments first.