Cerious Technologies NEW Graphene Cables

If the signal traveled the path of least resistance it would travel down the Graphene, assuming the Graphene is acting as a conductor in the first place, and not the metal backbone metal wires, which one assumes are actually nothing more than structural reinforcement. And if that were the case, then Bob could use coat hangers for the backbone. It’s also possible, as I mentioned before, the Graphene is simply acting as an RFI/EMI shield and not as a conductor at all. Which is the case in the SR Black fuse.

Furthermore, the distinction between electrons and photons in the explanation of how things work is not trivial, especially in light of the fact that many folks seem to believe that the signal travels back and forth in AC circuits. Follow?

Jetter 2-11-2017
But if I remember correctly Al has mentioned that the music signal, whatever it is made up of, like electricity in general, travels the path of least resistance.

Hi George,

Thanks for thinking of me, but no, I never would have said that, in this thread (which I have not participated in until now), or in any other thread. The old saying that electricity follows the path of least resistance is a somewhat misleading oversimplification. Electric current flowing between two points will utilize all of the paths that exist between those points, and will divide up between those paths in inverse proportion to their resistance. (And that’s even a bit of an oversimplification, because at frequencies other than zero Hz, i.e., other than at DC, inductance, capacitance, and impedance enter the picture, in addition to resistance). So a greater fraction of the current will utilize a lower resistance path than the fraction of the current that will utilize a higher resistance path between the same points, but all available paths between those points will be utilized to some degree.

Also, as Geoff indicated information in an electrical signal is conveyed in the form of an electromagnetic wave, which propagates along a cable at a substantial fraction of the speed of light in a vacuum. Generally somewhere between 50% and 98% of the speed of light in a vacuum (which is about 186,000 miles per second), depending primarily on what is called the "dielectric constant" of the insulation that surrounds the conductors in the particular cable.

So for example the time required for a musical signal to propagate from one end to the other of a 10 foot cable having a propagation velocity of 75% of the speed of light in a vacuum would be approximately 0.000000014 seconds. In other words, essentially instantaneously. (Consider the fact that just one cycle of what is considered to nominally be the highest audible frequency, 20 kHz, is several thousand times longer than that, with mid-range and bass frequencies having cycle times that are far longer still). Any differences in that 0.000000014 second figure due to whatever effects strand jumping may have on the electromagnetic wave therefore figure to be completely insignificant.

That said, based on the experiences that have been reported in this thread I don’t doubt or question that Bob’s cables are outstanding performers, whatever the reason may be.

Regards,
-- Al

Thank you Al for taking the time to explain this subject so clearly. It has always been difficult for me to understand how much difference in sound a wire and dielectric can make in the near instantaneous passing of a signal.  And I do think I hear a difference in cables.  I am keeping this short to not show more of  my lack of understanding of physics but really appreciate your explanations.
George

Since Graphene is defined as a two dimensional material, meaning that it’s thickness is only one molecule, the slurry of Graphene infused liquid ceramic used to surround the backbone metal conductors is not really Graphene any longer, but some other graphite based material. The special properties of Graphene, I.e., high strength and high conductivity are based on the premise that the material is only one molecule thick. Thus, I conclude the Graphene infused ceramic is acting as an anti vibration jacket and/or as an RFI/EMI shield. Please note I’m not impugning the efficacy of the Graphene cables. I actually think the cables would be superior to many deigns, but for the reasons I just mentioned which, by no coincidence, are the same reasons Graphene is employed in the SR Black fuse.

Thanks to Al for pointing out the audio signal travels at near light speed. Of course that means that the signal must be comprised of photons, not electrons. Massless photons are *compelled* to travel at the speed of light in a vacuum and at somewhat lower velocities in other mediums like water or copper, the actual velocity depending on the physical characteristics of the medium.

Maybe someone could make interconnects out of slow glass? 😉