Youngsters these days.

I am actually grateful for the 20 second interlude at each side and don’t find it a bother.. Sitting is the new smoking they say. So getting up every 18-20 minutes is probably a good thing for me. 
Also, I find that the mental energy of making decisions for streaming are more onerous than choosing an album and putting it on. Infinite choice actually creates decision load that draws down our will power reserves. 
Some younger kids—including my own—are aware of this. It is why they would sometimes prefer not to watch a movie on Netflix. The effort of deciding requires real mental energy. I am not sure that this is properly factored in when people speak of the convenience of streaming. Without a doubt, the universal access has its appeal—but it is hardly without concomitant cost. Nothing is.

++dramatictenor and markpao I also have very little problems with crackle and pops on my LPs and overall, for critical listening, to me, they sound more musical and engaging than CDs, but I haven’t the experience with streaming to make a fair call there.

I do appreciate the convince of CDs, however, as I usually listen late at night or early mornings and it’s a bit easer to just sit back and enjoy the music, if I don’t have to jump up, turn on a light and perform a turn and clean ritual.

I truly did enjoy the old CA Audio CDP. To my ears it sounded very good, plus the convince of having a 5 CD changer.

@rajugsw Please Thank Your Grandson for His Service. My Son is in The Army Reserves.
I will and thanks to your Son as well......Jim

My only records that have pops on them are Louis Armstrong. 🎺

+1 dramatictenor
I don't get it either. When I was a kid I remember the snap, crackle pops with my so so turntables, cheap cartridge's and poor cleaning methods. We've come a long way. My LP's are for the most part noise free.
With that said, I am considering steaming. Only for back round music though as we have no good FM stations here. 

@rajugsw At 50, yer a young feller anyhow.  

Please Thank Your Grandson for His Service. My Son is in The Army Reserves. I just turned 50 last year but sold all my Vinyl 3 years earlier but transferred them all to 96/24 PCM files/DVD-Audio Discs. I don't miss the care and feeding that Vinyl requires. I am not the Nostalgic type that ritualizes the whole cue up, put arm down, and then turn over the record when the sides is complete kind of Audiophile anymore. 

A properly mastered/remastered SACD.DSD file will equal or surpass it's Audiophile Cut & Pressed Counterpart IMHO.

So I have a cd player, a streamer and two turntables. I prefer the sound of records, but streaming is fine quality. What I don’t understand on this thread is the talk of snap, crackle and pop on vinyl. My records are silent. Do people mistreat their lps? Not keep them clean? Not clean their stylus each side? I don’t understand. (I mean I kinda do, but isn't this site for audiophiles and music lovers? Why would they abuse their stuff?)

My Dad would let me listen to top-40 station in the car, (I even thought many songs were lame) Example: Silence Is Golden by Tremeloes would come on, he'd exclaim: "then why don't they shut up"? Many don't appreciate the younger generation's music. I can understand that.

It is probably prudent to NOT voice those sentiments about your kids, after all, they may be making certain critical decisions about your life in your dotage.

This reminds me about how, when we were riding around in the family car and certain rock/pop songs came up on the radio that my father would mock.  I would reply by singing some crap tune from the days when he was about my age, such as, Ish Kabibble's "Three Little Fishies."

Because they do not have any "class" any more.  I sometimes overhear the absolute crap my kids listen to and lose hope for the future..... :-(

Thanks uberwaltz,
 I'll check on that.....Jim

I have been looking through AGone and AudioMart listings for a used CDP that will play Red Book CDs, SACD and accommodate streaming. Maybe I'm wrong but, It looks like I might have to choose between one that is CD/SACD or one that is CD/Streaming capable.

Jhills.
Its older now but an Oppo 105 should do everything you are looking for. Certainly cd and sacd and stream Tidal, don’t think they can do Qobuz.

Strike my maybe

" maybe I spoke too soon."

There is a rumour it is always too soon.

 maybe I spoke too soon. 

isochronism,

I wish you the same luck as I have had. Do not give up, maybe some day...

Good, you finally found it! 😊👍

isochronism,

"Although your mind went beyond ... 😳"

At least I have it.

@isochronism
That’s good!!!! And probably true.....Jim

Jim, Now your grandson will say "see gramps, I told you so" and roll his eyes again!!! Then you can tell him "that so-called Bootcamp you went through didn't do it's job"!!! "now pass me that darn remote so I can do some streaming, boy"!! HA

@isochronism I feel very safe in saying I'LL NEVER STREAM!!! HA

Yea, that's where I was a week ago, but now thinking - maybe just a little. LOL

@larryi  Many of the currently available digital sources of reissues sound quite bad.

I've found the same, even on the re-mastered CDs of some of my old favorites. I did a side by side comparison a few weeks ago and found the re-mastered CDs to sound bad compared to the originals. 

Jim

About 1/4 of my recent music purchases have been of music I already have on LPs (purchased just for the convenience of being able to use my streamer/server instead of the record player).  Many of the currently available digital sources of reissues sound quite bad.  I've looked on discogs for alternative CD sources, such as Japanese CDs, but, the prices are extraordinarily high.  It seems that good CDs, like good LPs are still in demand enough to command a lot of money.

Back on topic ... Jim, I'm with you on the software. I fell in LOVE with records while young ( besides tape) that's what there was! When CDs arrived, B&O came out with a player for $1000. I said I'll  NEVER get CDs!! That is the only time in my life I went back on a " I'll never". I'm in the eastern tri-state area and even still enjoy NYC FM jazz and classical. I feel very safe in saying I'LL NEVER STREAM!!! HA

glubson, Yea, I do that too. Sometimes we just remember the parts that stand-out. Although your mind went beyond ... 😳

isochronism,

It was one of the posts I remembered to remember.

Your assumption is wrong. If you use your bifocals you'd see that there are only three asterisks for the withheld' name (of whom I alway's enjoy the texts of). I won't suggest a whoopin' for you, as we see them words ain't tolerated aroun' here, boy!!!

My post: " ***  need's to be taken behind the woodshed" was removed??? Is plain-ol' fun now being sensored?

You should have asked geoffkait if he thought it would have been fun being with you behind the woodshed.

Maybe, had you gotten the room...

I’m using a Lumin streamer and a Modwright-modified Oppo 105 (vacuum tubes) for CD, SACD, and d/a conversion. 2 boxes plus power supplies. Competes favorably with vinyl. In another system, it’s a Cambridge CD transport, an Aurender streamer and a Mytek Brooklyn dac. Not inexpensive. Both are about equal in SQ.

I think I overdosed!!!

Did you remember to take your smart pill 💊 today? 

 Now that make's me think that of all the removed posts I see, most probably were Goeff's. He'd be up to like 40,000 or more... Oh' the humanity of it all!!!!! 

I have been looking through AGone and AudioMart listings for a used CDP that will play Red Book CDs, SACD and accommodate streaming. Maybe I'm wrong but, It looks like I might have to choose between one that is CD/SACD or one that is CD/Streaming capable.

A tough choice for me, as I have hundreds of CDs and a few SACDs from back when I had a Sony SACD player, but like the CA Audio, quit reading discs. The only streaming I have ever done with audio, is Pandora and UTube, through my AV system, so am sure I haven't really gotten much of an appreciation of how good Hi Res streaming can be. I am finding a few good options to go either way though...Jim

😢

Looks like.

My post: " ***  need's to be taken behind the woodshed" was removed??? Is plain-ol' fun now being sensored?

Ok I’m a Boomer. I admit it. Actually one of the first boomers, as I was born exactly 9 mos after VE Day. (If you don’t know what VE Day is - oh well.)
After listening to CDs and streaming predominantly of late, I’ve rediscovered vinyl for real, and do most of my current listening in that format. Streaming is best for exposure to new music, and for checking out albums before committing  to buying an LP. Vinyl sounds best (and all my equipment is pretty high end.) All formats have their place, and I would not give up any of them. 

Im 46 years old and I’ve been ripping CDs since 2000, purchasing hi-res FLAC files since 2010. I currently have 300GB of music on my MacMini with dual SSDs. I still purchase CDs, SACDs and rip them along with streaming Tidal and Qobuz. With the nice Schiit Yggdrasil I have CDs sound great compared to what I heard from them in 2000. They sound so good I’ve been purchasing them again and adding to my collection. In 2010 when hi-res hit the market I swore I’d never purchase a CD again. My new system has overturned that decision.  I’m happy to listen to old CDs again. They sound great. 

I’ve been fortunate.  My sons, both in their 30’s, still call me for advice when they have big decisions to make.  I try to respect them as adults and they return the favor.

As is so true of us “Boomers”, I was a slow adopter of technology.  I was accustomed to records and tape and didn’t see the need to use CDs.  My ex-wife actually showed me the advantages of the CD.  I used VCRs and didn’t see the need to go to DVDs at first — using CDs made it an easier transition.  But I still have 2 nice Sony VCR’s, just in case!  And though I seldom play cassette tapes anymore, I still have the Technics in my equipment array, just in case and because I like the look.

I hadn’t played records for years until recently, but reading comments here about how great the sound of records can be . . and being a bit nostalgic . . and having a lot of records and having recently been given a lot more . . I bought a turntable and a Spin Clean and have been cleaning and listening like mad — what else can you do while sheltering at home?  My sons stream — audio to them is their iPhone and ear buds.   Will they care about any of my equipment?  Probably not.  But I’m just 65 and not planning on checking out anytime soon, and I enjoy it.  Maybe they will too as they get older and more curious about why their Dad fiddled with all this bulky equipment.  Or maybe they won’t.  I hope they will know the value and sell these things for a decent return when the time comes.

@isochronism 
 
;-) 

I am very grateful to have made the jump to streaming/file playback. I likely never would have discovered on disc the fantastic - and I do mean fantastic - music I now enjoy if I had stayed with the silver discs. I can still play them, but the enjoy�men of so much more music is very worth the effort to get going with streaming. 

With the advancement of the streaming setup, there is not much gap at all in performance between CD and streaming. I still have a transport ready if the music service or Net goes down temporarily, but I do all reviewing with streaming and file playback. At one time, when I used a Mac Mini and upconversion software the quality was not ready, but now, it's all plenty good. 

Jim, if you heard the benefit of doubling speaker cables, that's nothing compared to Schroeder Method on ICs. 

I guess I fall into the hard copy ‘old curmudgeon’ camp.

I stream to find new music, check out music I’ll probably never purchase, or when I’m extremely lazy, but, I grew up with the comfort and excitement of having a physical collection of albums, cassettes, CD’s, etc. There is a pride of having a collection of music that your can touch, feel, read, but most importantly own.

I never get the same feeling listening to music streamed. I only feel like I’m borrowing it temporarily, but a very real feeling of non-ownership, even though I pay for Tidal.

Beyond that, especially with vinyl, most often, it just sounds right.

@douglas_schroeder 

Good hearing from you again.
After talking to you, I remembered that I had a matching set of speaker cables that I used for bi-wiring on a different set of speakers. My little Maggies are not set up for bi-wiring so I was only using one set of cables. I did add the second set of cables as you prescribed. I have been running it that way since and the little Maggies sound incredible. I have not made the jump to spend an extra $500.00 for matching IC cables, as I have to split my budget between audio and motor cycles. 
I had a Wonderfull sounding CA Audio, CDP but it stopped reading discs a while back, so had to dig out the old Denon. I found that repairs to the CA Audio deck would be expensive and unreliable, so now on the hunt for something that sounds as good, without breaking the bank...Jim

Weren't you one of the people who said they would try the Schroeder Method of IC Placement? It appears you never did. 

You're missing out on so much more than you think, in several respects. 

Thanks all for all the comments and good advise.

Except for isochronism  take that whippersnapper behind the woodshed. Afterward, tell him, "now clean those records"!
You trying to get me killed? At 69, I'm still pretty spry but he's nearly a  foot taller and out weighs me by about 100 lb. Think I'll just give him a good talking to. LOL

So now thinking of a CDP/DAC, capable of high Rez streaming and will play SACD.  Any such thing?
On a budget, so I'm thinking used and would like to keep around $1K - $2K. My old Denon still works great and sounds pretty fair, until the music gets complicated. Looking for something that is smooth and musical without sacrificing detail and resolution and good at keeping things sorted and in place when the music and vocals get complicated - as in orchestration and Celtic, with multiple instruments and vocals.
Thanks for suggestions....Jim   

• Vinyl?
• The SQ depletes with each play.

Come on over to my place. I'll change your mind with a mono promo copy of The Dave Brubeck Quartet's "Jazz Impressions of The USA." The album is 65 years old at this point and has been played a couple of hundred times at least, as it is one of my demo records. Paul Desmond's breath can be felt as it comes out of the end of his alto sax.

Frank

LP’s,  CD’s,
all I use, have a good collection, many of which I still have,not heard from the 80-90’s.


 Most of my records, I recorded to my computer, cleaned up,a bit, added bass, mid and treble, recorded to taiyo Yuden cdrs’ for playback,
I love the pops, crackles, and ticks from the LP to cd recording process!!!!
  The tone and sound is analogue, played t(rough my stereo from the CD player is great, they sound like records, and I love it!!

 Have %80 of my CDs and LP’s on cd now.
 Have maybe 500 cds not on iTunes yet, my iTunes is over 90K+ songs. More than I’ll ever listen too.

 When listening, I use my CD player or turntable.
streaming is not for me.,... I’ll use my iPod hooked into stereo when low volume and background music is needed.
otherwise it’s CD and LP.

 As,mentioned here, it’s the,physical product I want/collect.
 I’ve bought maybe 2 albums and 8-9 single songs via iTunes ,I don’t like buying air,,so if I can buy the actual cd or LP, I will.