I love my VPI Classic. I also still use my Thorens TD-125 MKII occasionally that I bought in 1973 when I was in high school. Belt drive, 24 pole synchronous motor, aluminum tonearm with a removable magnesium head shell. I talked my Dad into cosigning a loan for my first real stereo system. Thorens turntable with a Stanton cartridge, a Pioneer power amp (I figured it would be easier to update later) and Klipsch La Scala speakers. I told him I wanted it more than a car!
What are your top 3 favorite turntable companies (manufacturer) and why?
I am interested in knowing which 3 turntable companies you like and why? Not interested in the Direct Drive vs Belt drive argument, just what is your experience with the company product and... support too. Something like this as an example-
Garrard- very solid and classic design that sounds great and built like a tank.
Well Tempered- Very good design and even better tonearm performance. Best model is ________
Technics- Very solid design and easy to adjust. Great idea with removeable headshell
Your thoughts and experience welcome
Pretty nice first rig. I also got my first loan for stereo equipment but Radio Shack was all I could afford the first time around. I think I was 17 years old. Second time I borrowed money was for an engagement ring, third was my second stereo. Both good investments, still have the wife, the stereo gear is still in the family somewhere. Crown IC150 and DC300A, Pioneer PL12D turntable and Shure V15III, Bose 901 series II speakers (save the hate, I've heard it all:)). Only piece still working is the Pioneer although the 901's could still be, sold that pair in the 80's. I wanted the Thorens TD 125 but it was 3 times the money of the Pioneer. Had to cut somewhere. |
The three turntable companies I like are VPI. Had a Nomad that I ran a Soundsmith Zephyr on and was quite surprised how good it sounded. Jumped to the Prime 21 with gimbal arm & I don’t think I’ll ever need another table.
American made.
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Above all I love my Townshend Elite Rock, so simple yet completely amazing SOTA SS with ET air bearing arm (talk about rube goldberg) Ariston RD 80 with mods. These are the ones I've landed on the last years, but the townshend I've had since '84 and will never sell. I love turntables like cars, I'd like to have a nice warehouse full and all working with a person employed to maintain and dust them daily for my enjoyment. |
@inna said: "Libraries and other places use Simon Yorke with SME arms for transfers. Who is familiar with them ? And why would they use it with SME arms and not full SME set up, I wonder ? Speaking of British." Here’s a photo in a restoration suite from my visit to the Packard Campus, Culpeper, LOC: |
Sota: very recent ownership experience. American, great company, suspended, speed control, platter, bearing, vacuum (regulated), integrated dust cover, looks (woodworker), upgradeability, American. Their higher end tables (Nova VII, Cosmos VII) I found to be great values relative to their performance. (Not familiar with their other models, though.) VPI: ownership experience. American, solid build, fine performance, upgradeable, great line of tables at all price points. I enjoy talking to and listening with Harry and Matt at the shows... Scheu: ownership experience. Relatively simple table, sounds great, nice looking. |
I don’t have a personal favorite- I think there is such a wide range of choices in drive systems, ergonomics, modern v. vintage and the need (or not) to use multiple arms of different types that the choices can be endless. I haven’t had a huge number of tables over the years, currently run a vintage SP-10 that I bought new in 1973 that the late Bill Thalmann restored in 2017-- that’s in the vintage system. The main system relies on the Kuzma XL/Airline on an HRS base with a big Minus K desktop: Before I bought the XL/Airline, I had a Kuzma Reference with a Triplanar arm. I’ve had good experience with a lot of tables, including the old Rockport. I always thought that French table, the Verdier la Platine seemed like a bargain, but I gather there is a fair amount of tweakiness to it. Some of the older big Japanese tables, not just the big Micro-Seiki, are well made and ingenious. Of course, the newer Tech Das brings that technology up to date. I’m a big fan of industrial design and turntables, as a mechanical device, explore these opportunities in multiple ways. You could imagine the Wright Bros. or Jules Verne designing one. |
Still have my 1983 Denon rosewood turntable...beautiful...not used any longer. Got back into audio 5 years ago & went with VPI … purchased from local audio store = American company, american made. It was a "B" stock unit = got a great price but I kept having issues. VPI took care of me - full money back towards new table and discount price on their newer fatboy arm. Built like a tank - it will passed down to my kids. VPI customer support and service top notch...they back their products. Looked at their website last night - they have a new model out...$5K and it comes with a 10 year warranty! Not many 10 year warranties on audio gear. |
Nice tables if you can afford them. As I'm not the heir to a fortune, my favorites are a bit more plebian: Technics (Just bought a new SL-100C which I match to a Goldring E4). Music Hall Stealth and Classic - Have used both and found them musical and reliable. Dual - starting with a Dual 1212 in 1970 through a Dual 1219, a CS-622 and CS-5000 over 52 years, I think they offered the best bang for the buck. Their new CS-618Q is also quite fine. |
@mylogic Speaking as an American, I recall what Thomas Jefferson is reported to have said, “I consider a man who knows only one way of spelling a word uneducated,” or something to that effect. |
If I wanted to spend $5k on a new turntable, just the table without tonearm and cartridge, I would be in trouble, I guess, because I wouldn't really know what to get. It would be very easy for me to choose if I could compare them all, not always necessarily side by side, though preferable. In any good system the source is heard quite clearly, it sets the pace and tone. Besides, I know well how tape sounds, I have this reference in my head. I will sort of paraphrase Jefferson - there is more than one way to skin the cat. |
Are you talking about the UK manufacturer, C. J. Walker turntables? £200 in the early 80s bought you a lot of quality middle of the road turntables…….obscenely high priced home produced turntables had yet to materialise in the UK marketplace. |
For anyone considering an AR table, look for one from the 1980's, the ES-1. The 60's model has a terrible tonearm, the ES-1 could be had with no arm or a Jelco-sourced (I belive) one. I have had three AR's, starting with the original back in 1969. In the 80's I bought one and cut the arm "housing" off the floating subchassis, mounting a unipivot in it's place. It worked okay, but when AR introduced the ES-1 I got myself one (and mounted a Rega RB300 on it), and liked it even more. I then discovered the VPI HW-19, and the AR was history.
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