Good luck and keep us posted! |
Well, back to matters of importance. I got some wood today to build a platter. We'll see how it goes.... |
Dude! That's sick! Lumping Yes, Tull, Miles in with the Cowshills and Part-ridges! What's happened to ya' over all these years! |
Hey Dan- Along with the Partridges and Cowsils, I assume ;8^) |
What happened to you guys?!? Those albums you've brought up are in my regular rotation. ;-) |
Hi Mes,
John Miles opening for Tull must have been a great concert. I wish I could've been there. You're welcome for the memory, and I believe you're right that Rebel is the name of the album. I have it in my collection.
And thank you for reminding me that I wanted to play Tull's "Songs from the Wood" album today. I haven't heard it in a while and as I recall it sounds very good on vinyl.
Best regards,
Frank |
In the end you can't take the table or any of it with you. The table and everything else has it's own destiny and story to tell and is only temporarily passing through you.
That you are even contemplating making a "change" indicates it's time for both you and the table to close one door and open another. You'll miss each other to be sure but you'll both land on your feet.
The table making beautiful music for some extremely happy someone and you experiencing the excitment of building/buying something else and the incredibly music it will make! |
No offence implied, but you're not going to be able to sell that table for what it is "worth". You have far too much of your soul invested in that table.
If you are looking for *better* sound, then call up Chris and order a new platter, and then look at upgrading your arm and cartridge. If you want *different* sound, then sell it and take your chances. |
Hey Plato, boy did you just bring me back. I saw John Miles open for Tull in the late 70's, and it was a great performance. Immediately bought the LP( Rebel, I think) that song is from. Hadn't thought of him in a looooong time. |
It's an inanimate object. If you feel like moving on it's not like the turntable will become depressed or suicidal. Why even ask for other people's opinions? |
Glory,
Wow, I must have really tweaked your button with that little one-liner. I guess I could say a lot of smart, cutting, and clever things here to get back at you, but what would be the point?
I do admit I have a somewhat dominant personality, but I don't alway's get my way and don't expect to. And it's not like I don't take good care of my spouse or my son. The welfare and well-being of my loved ones is a major priority in my life. I view myself as a compassionate and fair-minded person.
In the words of '80's pop singer John Miles:
Music was my first love
And it will be my last
Music of the future
And music of the past
To live without my music
Would be impossible to do
In this world of troubles
My music pulls me through... |
I am curious what you would switch to! |
Yea, she never said a word when I was swapping gear out regularly. We're still friends, and probably get along better now;)
I don't think I'd do a new plinth. That one weighs about 80 pounds. If I did one 8" thick it would probably be close to 200#. I like the composite platter, but I still think I would rather build my own. But, the composite platter is kinda makin me think I might be able to find some "different" materials to do it out of....
Doug, I've been following your exploits regularly. I wish (even though I'm kinda glad I don't) I had Paul's ears!! Maybe I do need to get a hold of Larry and set it up all over again. Sure can't hurt.
Abe, I always wanted to do an idler wheel. Another thing to think about. |
Glory, give it a rest. It seems to me Joe has stated that he's moved on. Stop pretending you know anything about that relationship and stick to audio advice. This ain't the Oprah show and you ain't Dr. Phil! :-) |
It was the complications of building platter that kept me from building my own a few year back. But then, I don't have the shop that you have. Not so much the puzzling together and epoxy work. I had that worked out. Access to a good CNC would make the outcome more predictable for me. I still think it would be a fun challenge. But honestly, for the work involved, I couldn't see doing it just for a platter replacement. Now, building something like the old 320 or 360, that would be awesome. AND, you can't get them new anymore.
If you do decide to build a new one, hang on to your first one until you're finished. Then you'll be able to enjoy how much difference there is with the new table.
"Done, I'm done, on to the next one!" - Dave Grohl, Foo Fighters |
Nice table!
As one whom makes things for both fun and a living, I'd asy sell it if you have the "itch". The next one will be even better than the first, and some other person gets to enjoy your handy work.
There's something very cathartic about a clean break and a fresh start... |
Plato,
"Women come and go." Good thinking, real good.
You maybe married for 17 yrs. but your wife knows who you are.
This hobby is so much better when the one you live with is treated as more important than your power cord. You know what I mean by power cord?
The music sounds so much better when you're not hidding your selling and buying and you treat your partner with more respect than, they come and go, but my system will always be with me. You project that to you wife and if you have kids to them also. My wants and needs are number one.
If your life gives off that kind of sound then maybe you need to charge out your cart, oh I am sorry I mean your heart.
My gear is number one in my life. If I am a sap then you are a little boy that always gets his way. |
Joe,
Keep the Teres. Theres some part of you there when you finished the build. Your ingenuity, your passion, your style.
FWIW, just in case you are wondering or tempted about the "idler" revolution, let me tell you my opinion. I have a Garrard 301, Thorens 124 MKI and MKII and yes they are good. But keep the Teres! It is, in its own way, special! Believe me, you will regret selling it.
regards,
Abe |
As you've already considered, changing out the acrylic platter would be something to improve on. Maybe the challenge of building a platter will keep me happy for a while. I have to admit I got (almost!) as much enjoyment out of the build as I do out of listening to it. That you're even asking the question tells me the answer - for crying out loud, keep it. Yea, I know it sounds like that. but lately I've been getting that itchy feeling that says get rid of everything and start over. As much as I like my Audio Note kit, I haven't thought twice about getting rid of it and starting over. I'm going to have to give this some serious thought. |
Joe,
It's great to see you back, even with a tough question. I vote with the others who say keep the table, at least until you're sure you've found something better. There's too much of Joe in it to let it go without a good reason.
If it'll help let's have Larry (Cello) ship up the Wally Analog Shop. It's still 1/4 yours, and you haven't gotten much use from it recently.
Regards,
Doug
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That you're even asking the question tells me the answer - for crying out loud, keep it. You put a lot of work into that table - its part of you and it will hold continuity to that effort, which was a good thing and is still a good thing. With the undamped acrylic platter the Verus will be an excellent upgrade, then maybe the new composite platter. |
I have to tell you, Joe, that I really enjoyed following your build. You did one hell of a great job. I think I understand where you are coming from. Sometimes it is about the journey, and not just the destination.
So you essentially have something like the old 250 model? There have been many changes and improvements since then. As you've already considered, changing out the acrylic platter would be something to improve on. But from what I hear of the difference between the 265 and the 320, maybe you might consider upgrading the whole table. An 8" thick plinth with a ton of shot would be a cool base. If Chris is selling the new composite platters ala carte, that could help keep the build complications down, as would the new Verus motor. Then you'll need to start thinking of upgrading the tonearm. ;-) |
Jphii,
I looked at the pictures of your turntable and it's a work of art and the fact that it makes beautiful music is just the icing on the cake. Since you built it yourself there is an additional attachment. You should never part with that turntable no matter what.
If you're getting antzy then upgrade the cartridge or the phono preamp but KEEP THE TERES! A good source is the heart of the system. Why start all over?
I broke out an old Yes album today and was simply mesmerized by it. I was listening to the side with "Yours is no Disgrace," and it blew my mind. It's clean, it's clear, very dynamic and musical, with powerful articlate lows and fast shimmering highs. It's great how an LP can do that after decades of sitting on a shelf.
I know what you mean about the wife thing. My music system's have been with me since puberty and that's one constant in my life that I won't give up. Women come and go.
I've been married for over 17 years now. I got my wife her own stereo (which sounds pretty good) so she doesn't have to mess with mine. She wouldn't know how to work it anyway.
Same with my car... I bought a stick so my wife doesn't want to learn to drive it. It works for me. :)
Glory, you need to get your priorities straight. What a sap you are! |
My thoughts are with Tobias:
If you like the TT and can't think of one you would like better keep it. If there is one you would rather have, and your sure, trade it in. Very simple. |
Maybe the wife thing is because you would not let her touch the TT and she felt like # 2 in your life.
Invite her over for a spot of tea and show her she's # 1 and let her take the TT for a spin. =8^) |
stop getting rid of stuff...no reason to. |
If it were me I'd start building the new system with the Teres as a foundation. I wouldn't change it unless I found a TT I liked better, and a buyer who'd appreciate the Teres. But that's me and not you. Best of luck! |
