The New Synergistic Research Purple Fuses

No matter what the nay sayers say, I know what I've heard when getting SR Black fuses for my amp, then SR Red for my Dac, and then SR Orange for my amp and Dac.

The SR Purple are next for me.

And btw, I don't need saving. My money, my hobby, my ears, my music, my joy.

Oregonpapa, Would it be risky to apply an electrical contact protector to an SR Violet fuse? Since there is already graphene used in this fuse, should we avoid adding more and limit ourselves only to a cleaning and protection product, such as ProGold? I believe that these products should be applied very carefully and without putting on too much and then wiping off the excess? I'd like to get your opinion on this, and if that might alter the original sound?

Ted - How about giving some kind of credit or discount to those distributors and customers that purchased your black, red, blue, and orange fuses previously?

I understand progress but this product churn is turning many people off.

audiosens >>>

 Would it be risky to apply an electrical contact protector to an SR Violet fuse? 

I've applied TC to all of my fuses except for the three new Purple fuses in current use. I intend to hear the fuses completely broken in and then paste them. Is it risky? I've not heard of any problems with any previous fuses that have had contact enhancers applied, and I certainly haven't had any problems myself. Your choice is up to you. 

Frank

 

@jwmazur

Interesting post.  I now have a collection of SR fuses that are worthless.  I guess they go to my fuse grave.  I understand technology but I can not be switching fuses every 18 months.  That is one of the reasons I like QSA.

So here is a question....if you have multiple different fuses in your system, how do you know which one is really making the impact on your sound?   Let me give you an example.  I have an SR orange in my Music Server, and my DAC and my mono amps and pre-amp.  I went to QSA yellow one component at a time.  After changing the source which was my Lampi Pacific, I did not hear any change.  After a couple of weeks, I added it to the Pre-amp.  Again not much of a change.  I finally added to the monoblocks.  Once I had the same fuse in all of my components did I hear a noticeable difference.  

Based on my experience, I would find it hard to believe, that if you only placed an upgraded fuse in only one component, you would hear a difference.  Now I am also of the opinion that upgraded fuses will help lower-end systems more than high end systems but that is another debate.  

Thoughts?

willgolf I now have a collection of SR fuses that are worthless. I guess they go to my fuse grave.

 

I was afraid of that willgolf. This is why I asked the OP exactly what things changed so I could get an idea what they would do to my system.

But all I got was a lot of

In my system, they are a significant improvement over the SR Orange fuses.

The three SR Purple fuses in my system are fully broken in at this point. They replaced three SR Orange fuses that were being used before.
The sound has never been better.
I compared the SR Orange, the SR Purple, and the QSA Yellow fuses in the system. While very good in the detail department, even better than the SR Orange fuses, the QSA Yellow fuses just didn’t have the musicality of the SR Orange and Purple fuses. We are talking about moving beyond "etched or darker," and moving into the realm of "real" here. I mean, reach out and touch them, real.

To me that’s not the answer I’m looking for. Thanks Andy

"I now have a collection of SR fuses that are worthless."

Try selling them on A’gon or eBay. I believe you’ll find that they are not worthless.

"This is why I asked the OP exactly what things changed so I could get an idea of what they would do to my system. But all I got was a lot of ..."

I thought this answer was pretty specific: We are talking about moving beyond "etched or darker," and moving into the realm of "real" here. I mean, reach out and touch them, real.

Frank

As technology advances, so do products advance. If this weren’t true, we would still be using gaslit street lamps, buggy whips, and outhouses. It is the same for audio equipment manufactures. Without technological advances, we wouldn’t have moved beyond mono systems into the stereo realm. After-market fuses wouldn’t exist in the first place. As for me, I welcome advancement in design. 

There's a reason the patent office is still open guys. 

Frank

There’s a reason the patent office is still open guys.

Sorry, but there’s no chance in hell a patent would be granted for what is "claimed" they can do by thoses here. Andy

A patend? Why on earth would you go to a patend office and share your idea with the world to have it copied. US patents are just that US patents. They have ZERO weight in CHINA. The companies that I worked with NEVER got patents because the plans that got you your patent are in plain view for the rest of the world to copy. I worked on a LOT of tool designs for drilling. You draw a picture of something in the drilling world, you better keep it close to your OWN vest..

Do you know what a patend cost? TO MUCH...

NOW you know why fuse R&D and the total process of manufactures is wrapped up in a LOT of fancy talk with a MONEY back guarentee. It's just GOOD business sense to NOT throw the baby out with the bath water by giving away your secrets to ANY patend office in ANY country.. 

A patend dosen't have to prove it works, it has to prove it's not a copy of someone eleses work..

Do you think Houdini got patents? LOL

Regards

Do you think Houdini got patents?

He was an illusionist, just the "properties" of these fuses are made out to be by some here.

That’s why there’s no chance in hell of one being granted to one of these "fuses". Andy

andypandy,

I here yah talking, but have you even bought a QSA or SR fuse to even try? Or are you just runnin off at the mouth?

The QSA light blue is only $71 and to me, was a complete shocker of a value...

Now it’s either gonna be yes, no or some more bs...

I don’t really care too much for the ’properties’ of the fuses.

What I am interested in is their effect on my system.

In each instance, they have been an improvement.

Stock to SR Black for my amp.

Stock to SR Red for my Dac.

Then SR Red to SR Orange for amp/dac.

My notes on the SR Orange:

Base stronger - seems to hang in the air.
Instrument separation more discernible.
Hearing things in tracks I’d never heard before.

Overall, a huge A+ in my view.

SR Purple is next for my amp.

On the patent office comment ... Some of you, including andypandy, missed the point. As a history buff, I've read that back in the 1800s, there was a motion in Congress to eliminate the patent office. The reason? Because it was thought that everything worth inventing had already been invented. I used the analogy to point out the closed-mindedness of a few of the posters here.  

Frank

I have used SR Orange, Beewax Ultimate, and SR Purple. I will rank Purple #1 and Ultimate 2nd. Purple needs a week to break in while Ultimate only needs a day. 

trade secret.....can be more effective...sometimes...i spent 30 years deep into those and patents...they both have a place....

On the patent office comment ... Some of you, including andypandy, missed the point. As a history buff, I've read that back in the 1800s, there was a motion in Congress to eliminate the patent office. The reason? Because it was thought that everything worth inventing had already been invented. I used the analogy to point out the closed-mindedness of a few of the posters here.

Makes sense to me. I'm thinking the fuse patent had long expired decades before the AC/DC Tesla and Edison wars...

I'll put SR Purple ahead of a QSA violet fuse. Took a while to break in, but this is the best fuse I've heard and I'm not paying 7x the price for a QSA red

@cd45123...Can you please elaborate why?

@cd45123...Can you please elaborate why?

+1 I like to hear that too Andy

oregonpapa, Which is best to apply: NPS 1260 or Total Contact Enhancer ?  Which is easy to apply and good price for the improvement ?  Thank you.

@willgolf @andypandy am I gonna set off more crazy in this thread if I get into it?

Orange was good for more clarity- Purple seems to expand upon this clarity and detail with a greater openness to the midband, more musical, more 3D, it's like music has a greater flow. Sounds more open to my ears than the QSA Violet. That's just me

audiosens ...

"oregonpapa, Which is best to apply: NPS 1260 or Total Contact Enhancer?  Which is easy to apply and a good price for the improvement?  Thank you."

I have no experience with the NPS 1260. I do have extensive experience with Total Contact though. Sorry to say, it is no longer being produced. At this point, your best bet would be to go with the NPS 1260. It is getting good reviews from other members here. 

Frank

andypandy

35 posts

11-20-2021 4:57pm

Do you think Houdini got patents?

He was an illusionist, just the "properties" of these fuses are made out to be by some here.

That’s why there’s no chance in hell of one being granted to one of these "fuses". Andy.

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My point was he didn't show the world about his trade secrets, IF he would have submitted anything to a patend office, The cat is out of the bag.. Anybody could copy his stuff, all of a sudden, Houdini ain't an escape artist any more.. Even getting satisfaction for someone using YOUR patent is only as enforceable as you are willing to pay for in a civil court.. Nothing criminal, and you still have to collect ANY moneys.. Good luck with that..

Just put two SR Purple fuses into my Pass mono blocks.

It's a slam dunk. Out of the box it's better detail, imaging and soundstage. I can't wait for them to break in.

BTW, I have SR cables and interconnects but I was a bit skeptical about the fuses. Then another Audiogonner saw my amps and said, "I have the same ones. Have you upgraded your fuses?"

So I did. Such a nice improvement. Highly recommended.

My point was he didn’t show the world about his trade "illusion" secrets.

And the only thing you get from these now from what I’ve been reading about them, is called "expectation bias" for your $200, and it's what Atmasphere aptly calls them. Andy

jpan member since Apr 23, 2012

andypandy member since Nov 13, 2021 LOL!

’now from what I’ve been reading about them,’

And andypandy name drops ’Atmasphere’ like that’s supposed to give him some sort of gravitas.

I really would like to know what Ralph would have to say about SR Purp(le) fuses he’s tried, for the first time?

I can’t remember off hand, but I think some of his beautifully engineered/designed gear doesn’t’ even use fuses?

I’ll put SR Purple ahead of a QSA violet fuse. Took a while to break in, but this is the best fuse I’ve heard and I’m not paying 7x the price for a QSA red.

@cd45123...Can you please elaborate why?

Orange was good for more clarity- Purple seems to expand upon this clarity and detail with a greater openness to the midband, more musical, more 3D, it’s like music has a greater flow. Sounds more open to my ears than the QSA Violet. That’s just me.

cd45123, this is just the type of information I want to glean from this particular thread. Experiences from someone that has compared the QSA Light Violet (or other purple) to the SR Purp.

The SR Purp seems like it has a very good cost/performance ratio. I owe you man, for spending your hard earned money and valuable time and effort. The beer and or wine are on me. Way to shine...

Let me be clear, there’s nothing wrong with the QSA Light Violet, QSA Red or the special order QSA Red/Black, if you want it and can afford it, nothing at all.

So if anyone has tried the QSA Light Violet, QSA Red or the special order QSA Red/Black fuses, I’d love to here about it. I just can’t afford them.

And maybe on a QSA thread as I have a bad habit of high jacking the original post. That’s if the moderator hasn’t taken all the QSA fuse threads down...

Does CD even have a QSA Violet fuse to A/B or is he a 🤥?

Strange fire.

glory, I’m pretty sure sooner or later someone else will chime in here about that very issue of the QSA Light Violet fuse vs the SR Purp.

millercarbon posted about the QSA Light Violet fuse and said it was so good it was ’insane’. And I have no reason to doubt him. And we know how he feels about Ted’s stuff.

In fact, I suspect that the QSA Light Violet fuse may have been one of the reasons Ted is now selling the SR Purp?

As I have no reason to doubt the others here that rated the SR Orange vs the SR Purp.

I have 6 yellow and 1 red QSA fuses.

I will get 2 SR purple fuses and A/B with the QSA yellow and the red.

Here is my beef with SR fuses.  QSA has a directional arrow and directions for which way they go.  SR does not.  My components are not easily accessible.  I have 5 components that they go into.  I have to try one component at a time to see what I hear.  Oh wait there is a long break in period so how do I know if they sound bad?  Then I add another component.  This process could take a month.  I can't put them all in at the same time.  

C'mon SR figure out the proper direction.  QSA did.  You can too. 

You get no argument with me here. And with SR you do have to do one at a time. Nice rigs.

SR would probably sell a heck of a lot more fuses if they took the time to tetst them and put a directioanl arrow on their fuses. It does seem like it would be cost effective as they have to test them anyway? If more people ask...?

The ’directional arrow’ is the direction of text on an SR fuse and is consistent from one fuse generation to the next. Reading left to right direction or signal starts at the beginning of the writing. What is unknown and what cannot be known without a test is the optimal direction in a specific component that will sound best. For this you really need to listen whether you have arrows or text on a fuse. This is because electricity does not *flow* like water but rather energy propagates abov/around the filiment/wire. When our straightforward listen in both directions per individual fuse guidelines are followed with any fuse, optimal performance is achived. Optimal directionality is discovered not for the fuse, but for each component, something that cannot be known until the experiment is performed. Bottomline if you want best performance in your audio system you need to work at it, and this is true for everything, not only fuses.

Perhaps this will help:

Yours in music,

Ted Denney III

Lead Designer/CEO Synergistic Research Inc.

@willgolf 

" Based on my experience, I would find it hard to believe, that if you only placed an upgraded fuse in only one component, you would hear a difference.  Now I am also of the opinion that upgraded fuses will help lower-end systems more than high end systems but that is another debate. "

An entirely plausible hypothesis, the better the internal power regulation etc etc  

@ted_denney

Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing that here.

oregonpapa

2nd- The Ramsey Lewis Trio disc.  Good to read that your fuses are fully broken-in.

Happy Listening!

Got an SR purple on the way for my CD transport. I’ve been pretty happy with the QSA light blues in all my gear, and felt they bettered the SR orange. With all the good reports about the SR purple, here and elsewhere, though, I had to give it a try. My transport, unlike my DAC and amp, has no tubes, so I leave it on all the time. That’ll speed up the break-in, so I can get a handle on what the purple does sooner.

tommylion

what gear is in your current system? Looking forward in the QSA vs. SR comparison...finally.

Happy Listening!

audiolab 8000CDM CD transport

Audio Note DAC Kit 1.1

DIY Hifi Supply Django Mini TVC pasive pre

Antique Sound Lab Tulip 2A3 SET amp

Audio Note AN-E/L speakers

All heavily tweaked out, of course😉

If the SR purple brings more of that “reach out and touch” real quality, like oregonpapa reports, I’ll be very happy.

andypandy

40 posts

11-22-2021 6:39pm

My point was he didn’t show the world about his trade "illusion" secrets.

And the only thing you get from these now from what I’ve been reading about them, is called "expectation bias" for your $200, and it’s what Atmasphere aptly calls them. Andy

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I believe your taking what was said out of context. He was referring to a fuse swap in a power conditioner. It only makes sense. Why on earth would a fuse make a power conditioner work better, it’s almost an oxymoron. :-) There are places a circuit breaker need to be.. :-)

AC does the Cha Cha towards the source, That’s all I need to know, EVEN though I know more.. I don’t give a hoot.. Keep your fingers out of light sockets. AND if you do stick your fingers in light sockets, would you please take a video and post it.. Thanks

I really like stupid sometimes.. LOL

I really like stupid sometimes.. LOL

The first time a had an experience with a fuse and learned what they do. I was five and this electrical socket kept calling me to stick a metal object into it. I did, the house went dark, and I hauled ass and I got as far away from that socket as possible. Later in life I learned, that fuse probably saved my life, and my ass. As Dad just thought a fuse blew and just replaced it with a new one. Routine to him at the time, but new to me...And Dad never found out.

Ted

I kind of assumed the writing was the direction of the fuse but not guaranteed.  Question, does it matter if your ground plug is on top or the bottom of the plug?