The new Synergistic Research BLUE fuses ....


New SR BLUE fuse thread ...

I’ve replaced all 5 of the SR BLACK fuses in my system with the new SR BLUE fuses. Cold, out of the box, the BLUE fuses stomped the fully broken-in SR BLACKS in a big way. As good as the SR BLACK fuses were/are, especially in comparison with the SR RED fuses, SR has found another break-through in fuses.

1. Musicality ... The system is totally seamless at this point. Its as if there is no system in the room, only a wall to wall, front to back and floor to ceiling music presentation with true to life tonality from the various instruments.

2. Extension ... I’ve seemed to gain about an octave in low bass response. This has the effect of putting more meat on the bones of the instruments. Highs are very extended, breathing new life into my magic percussion recordings. Vibes, chimes, bells, and triangles positioned in the rear of the orchestra all have improved. I’ve experienced no roll-off of the highs what so ever with the new BLUE fuses. Just a more relaxed natural presentation.

3. Dynamics ... This is a huge improvement over the BLACK fuses. Piano and vibes fans ... this is fantastic.

I have a Japanese audiophile CD of Flamenco music ... the foot stomps on the stage, the hand clapping and the castanets are present like never before. Want to hear natural sounding castanets? Get the BLUE fuses.

4. Mid range ... Ha! Put on your favorite Ben Webster album ... and a pair of adult diapers. Play Chris Connor singing "All About Ronnie," its to die for.

Quick .... someone here HAS to buy this double album. Its a bargain at this price. Audiophile sound, excellent performance by the one and only Chris Connor. Yes, its mono ... but so what? Its so good you won’t miss the stereo effects. If you’re the lucky person who scores this album, please post your results here.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ULTRASONIC-CLEAN-The-Finest-Of-CHRIS-CONNOR-Bethlehem-Jazz-1975-NM-UNPLAYED-...

Overall impressions:

Where the RED fuses took about 20 hours to sound their best, and the BLACK fuses took upwards of 200 hours of total break-in, the BLUE fuses sounded really good right out of the box ... and that’s without doing anything about proper directional positioning. Not that the BLUE fuses don’t need breaking in, they do. The improvement continues through week three. Its a gradual break-in thing where each listening session is better than the last.

Everything I described above continues to break new ground in my system as the fuses continue breaking in. Quite honestly, I find it difficult to tear myself away from the system in order to get things done. Its truly been transformed into a magical music machine. With the expenditure of $150.00 and a 30 day return policy there’s really nothing to lose. In my system, its like upgrading to a better pre amp, amp, CD player or phono stage. Highly recommended.

Kudos to Ted Denney and the entire staff at SR. Amazing stuff, guys. :-)

Frank

PS: If you try the SR BLUE fuses, please post your results here. Seems the naysayers, the Debbie Downers and Negative Nellie’s have hijacked the original RED fuse thread. A pox on their houses and their Pioneer receivers.

Frank



128x128oregonpapa
Bo
You really should have participated in the "talk but not walk" thread.
You would have fit right in and had a blast with MG and all.
I think the discussion would have been very interesting to all
Without Music there is no audio. But even without audio there is still music. I am addicted to music since I was a child. I listen for new music about 2 hours each week. I buy what I really like.

It can be pop, rock, blues, jazz, classical and electronic music. The thing I love most is music what makes me feel emotion. I see it as a connection to be alive.

Tru-Fi is nothing more than how music sounds in real. Sound contains of properties. I had the luck to be able to listen to a lot of live music and also acoustic.

It all had a huge influence on my work regarding audio. Now I can extract all the different properties of each single part in an audio system. And that is why I understand why the stage and sound of an audiosystem is what I hear.

It all started on the 3th of july 1998 based on a mindset that I wanted to know why each loudspeaker sounds so different. In the first years I started to work in audio We had 5 loudspeaker rooms in different price ranges. When there were not a lot of clients I was always testing. Even during evenings I stayed at the shop to test.

On mondays I visited distributers and other shops. I was responsible for the audio magazines. I bought over 10 each month. I had to travel 2 times 1 hour to my work. I hadall the time to read the magazines.

I was interested in expensive audio right from the start. I owned stuff what was more expensive than the most we sold. I was always sending a lot of audio products of distributers we did not have. It was like a candy store for me. I wanted more and more.

In the last years I did the most research ever and I made huge steps. I can create both sound&vision. Based on the fact that I am aware of all the properties they own. I also spend a lot of time on reading about the human emotion.

Tru-Fi sets trail and error systems like it is dust. Trial and error is...........nothing. Based on the fact that there is no foundation at all. That it why most systems lacks emotion.

Tru-Fi can proof and show what is missing. We see it is very easy for all people to understand why their system is so limited. Based on the fact that it is incomplete.

A Tru-Fi system will experience you so much more details, layers and emotion. There is no human who would not choose for a more emotional and complete audiosystem. Based on the fact that our emotion works rather the same.

That is why the story; audio is a matter of personal taste is the biggest lie in the world. Many believe it and I even believed it till january 2016. A trail and error system cannot reveal all the emotion of a recoding. This is a 100% fact.

The thing what is a personal matter is that we prefer different kinds of music. An audiosystem does not create the emotion. The music owns the emotion and creates the emotion. And that is why you need a system what is able to let you experience all the details, layers and the real emotion of the music.

I did thousands of tests in audio and vision in almost 20 years of time. It is a fact that most products are incomplete and not able to reveal all the different properties of sound. I am sorry for those who bought them and own them.

They will always be a limitation in each system you create. They will even lower the level in emotion. This can easily be proven bij sound. This is how we work. And we see it is very easy for all people to understand.

One of the things I really hate in audio is  when people who work in audio tell you; you don’t understand it and you hear it all wrong. After the person was asked what he thought about the system

We see that when you demo a Tru-Fi system all people are excited and many become emotional as well. When a system is incomplete for many it will be not that impressive.

But mannnn when a system can reveal all the details, layers and emotion it will hit and find your emotion. And I am blessed and happy that we can create both sound&vision. The joy and smiles on people their faces makes us proud for  what we do for them.

I am a part of a team of unique people who have one thing in common. And that is the love for music. I contacted Qobuz to give a presentation about music with them togheter.

It is my goal to bring Tru-Fi systems all over the world. The way audio is done right now does not bring the people more close tot the music. Based on the fact that the products are too poor and incomplete.

They cannot reveal the real emotion of the music. We want other people to have the same stunning and additictive feeling as we all own.


"All people in audio need to learn what the essential part is of audio and that is music and the emotion it owns."   bo1972

Yes, we should all be 16 again, when passion and emotion--not the system--made the music so transformative.  Today, the system is important to the experience, but the music still has to be the central passion or we would not be going to these extremes.  Still, I often have to ask myself, "Am I going into the room to listen to the system or to the music?"   
Nooooo...the most men own a incomplete trial and error system. And over 99% is 2D as well.

The man wants to show his new stuff to his wife. After she auditioned it she says: I don’t hear it.

So the man thinks; she does not understand it. But that is not the truth.

She says: I don’t think it is that good. That is the real truth.

1,5 years ago we visited an audio show done by manufacturers. There where about 40 rooms. I was there with a few friend and clients. And other people who also work in audio.

After the show we alle agreed (on monday the next week I talked with other people who also work in audio) that there was not even 1 room what could create diversity in sound.

This proofs how limited audio is being done these days. No person on this planet can stay happy for a long period of time with an incomplete system. This is not a peronal thing, no we are talking about a fact.

All people agreeds that all these systems will never be worth the money. What I said before; money will not help you.

All people in audio need to learn what the essential part is of audio and that is music and the emotion it owns. But when you have no idea what sound is and how it works. You only can create an inferior level in sound quality what never will make any person excited and emotional each single day.


Try reversing her fuse, this may help, as it's "reported" to magical the right way.

Cheers George
uberwaltz sez:

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  • If women have much better hearing why does my wife not seem to hear me when I tell her those shoes she is looking at are too expensive? 

Ha, but she hears you loud and clear when you try to sneak some more records or CD's into the house I'll bet.  :>)

Mine could hear the sound of a beer can pull tab being released from a mile away. "Wanna have sex?"... deaf. "Wanna go to the mall?" ...  hearing like a freakin' bat.  :-)
shadorne sez ...

  • "I am the non musical band member (the drummer) ..."

Have you ever picked up on a drummer named Stan Levy? He played with Charlie Parker at one time during the heyday of bebop jazz. After that, he played in Stan Kenton’s big band. From there, he went on to play for years with Howard Rumsey’s Lighthouse Allstars. This is a guy who was a musical drummer. I saw him live many times, sitting only about twenty feet from his drum set. He was simply amazing in the way he could get so much sound out of his drums while appearing effortless.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6LKwv3xXEw

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCxCJ9apjEh2WZGUoQAlMUSA

There were others who were "musical" as well. The names Max Roach, Shelly Manne and Joe Morello come to mind.

Shelly Manne:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOokrsEAJ6Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWEdZxeR42U

Max Roach, one of the very best bebop drummers:

:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhdBW_siCFg

And then there was Joe Morello who played for years with the Dave Bruebeck Quartet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kx1GVYPOos
  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9Eh8wNMkw


Frank


Frank
If women have much better hearing why does my wife not seem to hear me when I tell her those shoes she is looking at are too expensive?
Women’s hearing is better than men’s due to evolution. Their hearing has to be outstanding so they could hear when their husbands were driving up the driveway.
I believe there's some truth to that. It's the female of the species that protects the home(land) and raises the young. They also do most of the hunting, until we humans started walking upright. Males are for territorial defense and breeding (bragging) rights. I think women have the edge. They just aren't given the chance to prove or use it as much as men do.

All the best,
Nonoise
Women’s hearing is better than men’s due to evolution. Their hearing has to be exceptionally acute so they could hear when their husbands were returning home.
Weird. I don’t think there is any evidence that women hear better or worse. My experience is the opposite. I am always surprised that I hear so much better than anyone I know around me and this includes women, children and my lead guitarist. I am the non musical band member (the drummer) but I constantly have to tell my guitarist his guitar is out of tune. He never notices but simply confirms my observation once he plugs in an electronic tuner.

I guess I could have been a piano tuner....

I think skills come from acute observation & practice rather than any “special gift”. I think on average women are worse than men because more often they don’t care or cultivate listening skill. If women wanted to they can be as good or better.
Snake oil products are those who are incomplete in properties in our world. This means that over 99% of all audio products are useless and not worth the money. This is how we see it.

What I said before; many people in audio still think it is 1980. This you hear back in the low quality of most systems in shops and at shows. The most of them where lazy and thought we can sit and just go with the flow.

People have no idea how much they loose in quality regarding the acoustics, smog, magnetism and high frequent noise. You can spend as much as you want, money will not help you.

I worked a lot longer in audioshops. But I did run a shop where I had all the freedom and made all the decisions. But I see audioshops as a huge limitation as well.

When you want to bring both sound&vision to a higher level you need to do it totally different. That is why I wanted to do research in all different parts. This way you can create both sound&vision.

This is a different world than the trial and error limited world people know audio. This does not add anything new and does not create a better quality in both sound&vision.






Whoa! What?! Hey, I hate to be judgmental but it looks like somebody needs to cut back just a skosh on the coffee. ☕️
When pretentious nonesense and hyperbole set the standard for threads celebrating The Oil of the Snake, Bo, who has returned after what seems like a sabbatical in the wilds of the aptly named (in this case anyway) Netherlands, will hopefully entertain all of us with the comic relief of his mysterious and unhinged posts unencumbered by context or spell-check. Random generalizations about women and young people, claims to have dwelled in the land of audio secrets privy only to those who may have spent 2 years in an audio shop, and a passionate quest to spread the news of whatever Tru-Fi might be. Bo knows...and I bet he's gonna share it with all of us, as, after all, we might be simple, possibly old school, directionless sheep in need of a proper path to an audio awakening.
bo ...

Very interesting post ... 

On the superior hearing that women have, I've always thought that they hear high frequencies better than men. I believe they can hear distortions in Mid-Fi systems that men cannot hear. Distorted high frequencies are painful for women. With the experience of a truly high end system,  their love of music will prevail. Music touches the souls of both men and women. :-)

Frank
From 2007 till 2009 I did run an audioshop. I always had a 2-dimensional system and a 3-dimensional system ready to demo.

The most fascinating thing was that when I played the 3-dimensional system women got excited and became more interested in audio.

The other thing what we noticed was the fact that women start using the system of their partner at home when they went from 2D to 3D.

I wanted to know how this was possible. I started to look for articles on the internet about sound and the difference in listening to sound between men and women. Women have a better developed hearing compared to men. But.....men are a lot more interested in audio and technique. But....women are also interested in music.

We see a huge difference in use when we bring new clients from an incomplete trial and errror system to a Tru-Fi system. This is based on the superior level in emotion with a Tru-Fi system. Many of our clients call their system addictive. When you experience a lot more emotion with your audiosystem it will influence your level in how often you use your system

Most audio products are very limited in diversity, this means there is not a lot of layering in sound. This is the main reason why there is a big group who is not interested in audio at all. These products are not able to influence our emotion enough.

But.....when you give them a demo in Tru-Fi regarding stereo, surround and vision they become like children. When people and even children watch and listen to vision and sound what can reveal all the details and layers. It will influences their emotion a lot more and they all get excited.

When you use the same content on a trail and error audio system the level of excitement is inferior.




Eddy
Really nice to hear your faith was rewarded in a pleasant way.
I am in same boat as that I have no idea how they do what they do in my system.
But they do, I am happy and to heck with anybody who does not want to believe.
Enjoy the vibes!
^^^ Right you are. Today’s younger people get their musical jollies through MP3’s.

And as a further affront, they won’t stay off of my lawn!

Frank
Woolfy is a pure audio lover 'oldschool' 

These people keep om doing their hobby untill they die. Younger people are a lot different compared to these 'oldschool' guys.


Burn-in period of fuses is about 14 days. Then it is about 90%. 4 weeks 95% and 100% in about 3-4 months.

It takes some time to be able to judge. It is easy to create a difference in sound and stage. But it needs to be better in all different properties of sound. 

Well, I've had my new Blue's in play for a few days now, and must admit that I am pleasantly surprised. I did not think it was possible for fuses to make any kind of difference sonically to my system. I have been proven wrong. What sorcery is this at hand!?!?!?!  I must admit that I just don't understand how this is possible.

I have a difficult time trying to explain what I hear in words, but if I had to try, I'd say I hear things with a little more "focus/openness" with the SR Blue's.


Audio is all about facts, but most people do audio by gambling and believe in fairytaless.

I will test the blue when I have time. I think the DNA will be the same as the  Black ones owns. 

My comment was removed based on the fact that Audiogon exsists of people who pay them money for advertisments.


I like the "more decay" part as you can't get enough decay, and I also think napping is essential. Bo knows mann...
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So, do you make your own fuses?   Do you market your fuses?  If neither, what fuses are you using and why do you think they work/sound better?  Thanks
I did a lot of research (for all those people who tink I use a different name then you don’t know me. I would never do that. Only done by all those born losers. And you should never want to be one of them) in fuses in the last years. And mannn I love them. They can make a huge difference in a possitive way.

But....there is a big limitation. And this is the same limitation as be found in over 99% of all products in audio. And that is the fact that most products including fuses are incomplete.

This means on facts (and this has nothing to do with personal taste. What is one big F. nonsense believed by many, because it does not exist. I will esplain this later on facts again) that it misses essential parts of sound. And the rule is; what is missing will never be there.

In 2017 I recieved the Black fuse to test it for the company who sells it in my country. I understood directly why people love it. But after a month I also understood that it is incomplete as well compared to other fuses.

Audio is done by trial and error all over the world. This is audio without any kind of foundation at the level of a child. It is audio gambling and the results are very ineffective. And yess as promised I will teach you all that we are talking about facts which can be understood by all people overhere.

All the trial and error people (I call them children these days) are only able to focus on one of just a few of all the properties of sound. And make often changements in their trail and error systems based on one property of sound.

I can garantee you that they have no F.idea that there are properties missing. When I compared the Black when it was burned in with the fuses I use I directly could hear what was missing.

The fuses I use create a lot more depth and also more decay and space around voices and instruments. This is essential for different properties of sound.

When you want to guide and control you system there is only one way to understand it. And that is thinking and working by all the different properties of sound. There is no second way to understand and guide it. All other options are all different kind of trail and error. What lacks any kind of foundation.

When you want to understand audio you need to understand sound first. And second you need to learn how the human emotion works. And which parts our human emotions influences.

And you need to focus on all those parts which negatively influences both sound and stage. Most people who work in audio and who see it as their hobby all think that it is 1980.

It is 2018 and mannn it is impressive what is possible these days. In the last months I made new huge improvements in both sound and vision. That is why I was not here. I am an extreme focused person who needs al the rest in my head to create and develope new thought which are in my head.

I ordered the new Lumin X1 and will be one of the first who will own it. It will create many new ideas and options. I am addicted to both sound&vision. And this is my world since I was a child. And here I create things most people overhere can only dream of.

See ya all soon!!


oregonpapa wrote,

Geoffkait ....

The main benefit of the TC is how dramatically it lowers the noise floor. The SR Blue fuses do a nice job here, but the TC is the game changer. Once most of the electrical connections are pasted and allowed to "cure," the noise floor drops even further. That's what the four and eight week phenomenons are all about. It really has to be experienced to be believed.

>>>>>That’s kind of what I just got through saying. Hel-loo!
jafreeman ...

Of all the tweaks in the system, TC was the biggest game changer.

My vinyl rig used to take most of my serious listening time. It was just superior to the CD playback I was getting. Not anymore. I probably listen to CD's about 90% of the time now.

Honestly, I had no idea how great Red-book CD's could sound. It keeps me interested in the hobby and wondering how much more information is to be had in those silver discs. I'm no longer buying equipment because I've reached the point where I'm very happy with the system as it now sits. I just buy more music.  :-)

Geoffkait ....

The main benefit of the TC is how dramatically it lowers the noise floor. The SR Blue fuses do a nice job here, but the TC is the game changer. Once most of the electrical connections are pasted and allowed to "cure," the noise floor drops even further. That's what the four and eight week phenomenons are all about. It really has to be experienced to be believed. 

Frank
Frank:  "I honestly thought the ARC was a grain-less amp until I made the fuse changes."

I agree.  I must have reached ten higher plateaus of sound improvement by now since adding in more power supply and isolation, OCC copper, vibration control, room treatment, SR fuses and now, Total Contact.  Whatever sonic limit there is in a redbook CD, whenever I thought I had come close to it, I later had found I had not yet reached it---probably never will.   
Quietness is a relative term. A very good noise figure for an audio preamp is what -100 dB? -110dB? The preamp on a military project I was on a long time ago in a Galaxy far far away had a noise figure of -132 dB. Which is obviously a great many times quieter than -100 dB or -110 dB. Everything is relative. Obviously total system noise will be much higher than the preamp noise anyway. Getting rid of micro arcing can’t hurt.
Wolf sez:

  • My tube pre and power amps are the quietest I've owned. 

Yep, that's what I thought about my ARC Ref-75se until I changed out the existing SR Red and Black fuses for the SR  Blues. I honestly thought the ARC was a grain-less amp until I made the fuse changes. Applying Tim Mrock's "Total Contact" was like putting the fuses on steroids x twenty. 

Have an open mind, read the reviews from those who have actually tried these products .. and go from there.

Frank


My current is currently quiet...bespoke power supplies for my DAC and Phono pre, old but trusty power conditioner, PS Audio Humbuster III, good cables. My tube pre and power amps are the quietest I've owned. And no goop for me...I shall remain goopless.
Wolf, you have got to try some SR Blues. What are you doing for quiet current?  I'm over on the "Fantastic Tweak" page, raving about the magic goop---great stuff! 
I question the basic marketing idea of naming a fuse "blue." Sort of like calling a car "The Breakdown" or an amp "The Distorto."

@uberwaltz My mono blocs have no fuses so nothing to do there, and I am primarily into vinyl, and spend most of my $$ on improvements to that source chain. I do have a CD player, but it rarely gets used, so I don't see any reason to changed the fuse there. For sure I will follow up once I get home and get to do some listening.


Cheers

Eddy

From my experience I would concur that DAC and pre amps seem to respond the best, and of course the phono stage is in reality a pre amp.
Although I did hear some improvement in a BAT power amp, biggest changes to my ears were in a DAC and in my phono stage.
Good luck and please let us know how it goes!

Hi Folks. I just received my SR Blues today. I'll be going home later to install and listen. I bought 2. One will be going into my Manley Steelhead phono stage, and the other into my ARC LS-27 pre-amp. I think these two components will be the best to determine the sonic differences the fuses may/or may not make in my system. I hope to have a friend over as well, in order to do blind testing, if he is available.

 I'll chime back in with my observations later.

Cheers

Nobody’s doubting that aftermarket fuses are a good idea, are they? 70,000 Fuses later and counting. Even NASA’s got em. 
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A portion of a message from a fellow member, not sr blue but still another example of people who actually listen to changes!

"Your replacing the fuse intrigues me as I found that replacing the fuse in my PS Audio Directstream DAC significantly improved SQ. I initially replaced with SR Red, which I really likes, and then the Audio Magic Beeswax SHD fuse, which was even better and more liquid in it's sound. Many guys on the PS Audio site swear by the AM Beeswax fuses, for what it's worth. "

Ho hum....