The best plug in filter ever!

@nasaman

You are not seriously suggesting that a passive filter affects clocking? i’d love to see ANY earthbound explanation for that!

Also nassman, I am unfamiliar with the term "S" sound, can you explain what you mean by that. Thanks

@facten If I may, I@nasaman is trying to say it help to eliminate harshness, in the higher frequencies. Not sure how it would. I think this gizmo helps eliminate some DC noise but there is no way it could clock. 
 

I have not tried one and have DC filtration in place so I have no reason to try one. 

I also own a couple of the Isotek EVO 3 units. I think they are designed to remove DC noise. They do do something positive, and they are relatively cheap to try.

ozzy

The best reviews in this blind test are the Isotek Isoplug 👍👍 Nordost QK1 👍👍

Others did not fare well. 

Thanks, jerry, for that recap info. To watch the total video is brutal.

I have one of these on each of my dedicated lines (3).

ozzy

@jerryg123 I watched the video, thanks. The Akiko requires a significant amount of burn in time. Right out of the box, it's harsh and bright and the graininess is cringe worthy. After a few days, it begins to settle in but it probably needs a full two weeks to perform its best. The Akiko passive power conditioners require an even longer break in period. I'm not proselytizing Akiko but this test wouldn't be capable of testing the Akiko products fairly. Since Akiko and HiFi Cables are the only plugs that I own, I wouldn't know anything about the other companies. I will say that if these other plugs perform at their best right out of the box, that would certainly be an advantage.

@goofyfoot I have a couple of Akiko passive filter in my systems also. I was just relaying what the video summary was. 

Scince going to LessLoss Firewire 640X's in my system the rest of the plugin filters are relegated to secondary systems. The LessLoss Firewire products cost much more and do that much more!

@jerryg123 then maybe I ought to consider the Les Loss filters over any others. Thanks!

@goofyfoot

totally agree with your experience on Akiko. As always, the answer to me doesn’t seem to be either or. Much rather a gradual approach to find out what’s best for what has resulted in the following approach to cleaning up the power: Akiki Audio fusebox holder, Blck Box and Tuning stick on the junction box for the separate spur as well as tuning chips on all power cables, AddPowr Symphony pro+PSU on the main power lead, Acoustiv Revive RPT4 distributor + Furutech NCF clearline on digital, battery power on phono. For completeness sake I run my router supported by an Add Powr Eau2 and use Acoustic Revive REM-8 EMI suppressors on all torroidal transformers in the system. Sounds messy? Well it took me over 15 years to fine tune and a whole box of discarded widgets at no small expense…Cleaning up the power is singularly important, hence the need for all the stuff above as well as a total of 6 highgrade linear power supplies serving dac, clock, 2 switches, the router and the Etherregen.

@antigrunge2 I’ve had the same experience by trying certain plugs in a variety of places. For example, I have two XLR inputs on my DAC and by plugging an XLR Tuning Stick into the right channel, it renders a more forward presence while plugging it into the left channel, it renders a more relaxed presence. I opt for the more relaxed option given that my Quad ESL’s have a slightly forward sonic signature themselves. Also, by placing the triple enhancer in a variety of different outlets on my line conditioner, I’m given various choices. Fortunately my amplifier is battery powered, so that avoids the ac garbage on that end. In your opinion, is it possible that these higher quality, plug type filters, could potentially replace the need for a line conditioner at all?

I thought the Akiko tuning stick was just a type of grounding device.

ozzy

So, getting back to the Puron filters.

I just tried one of my Puron’s into the subwoofers (4) dedicated line... and indeed the bass sounds purer. I like it!

Now to get some more..

ozzy

@ozzy,

they are passive conditioners using piezo crystals for creating electric fields purifying mains supplies (simailar to Acoustic Revive and Furutech) I concur with your use of Isotek. I use a Vision G2 for filtering the PSUs of my digital gear for DC and ground level noise

antigrunge2,

So, do you think you will try a Puron?

BTW, on each of my 3 dedicated outlets I will have:

• AudioQuest Niagara 7000, 1200 or 1000
• HF helix signature
• Isotek EVO 3
• Puron

ozzy

Call me skeptical, or confused, but what did your system sound like before if you noticed an improvement every time you added 9 different plugs?

And where did you find the 9 extra outlets to fit them in?

Tony,

Good questions.

Yes, each addition brought better sound quality in some way, otherwise I didn’t use it.

When I ran my 3 dedicated lines, I used 10-gauge wire terminated in several quad wall outlets with Furutech outlets and with Oyaide covers. I also have several 4-8 outlet heavy aluminum junction boxes that I made with Furutech outlets/inlets and 10-gauge pure silver wiring.

But most of my components are plugged into the Niagara's

I am such a tweaker...

ozzy

So I removed 1st Puron and then 2nd Puron from my system…. I thought the difference would be minimal but wow I was wrong. The sound quality quickly degraded. It became so grainy and scratchy. Soundstage and image were unbearable that I had to plug them back in within an hour.
Originally, I really wanted to leave them off system for at least few days for mind and ears have time to adjust and accept new sound? that’d be a $500 of saving…

PURONS ROCK

I have no reason to doubt the efficacy of this product as I realized a positive SQ benefit with a Shunyata Venom Defender plugged into an outlet which also has my power conditioner plugged into. However, I don’t get these types of comments

"It became so grainy and scratchy. Soundstage and image were unbearable that I had to plug them back in"

One would think that if the system was this unbearable to listen to it would have been quite noticeable before installing the Puron, or anything like it.

nasam

Did you treat the Puron plug  with Q45t?

@68pete

Not yet, I want to observe its raw, effectiveness and signature sounding first. As i shared previously on this thread, these Purons sound very similar to Q45-T… which means, warmer and fuller than NPS-1260

At the moment, It’s right on the money in my system. By Adding more Q-45T, I’m afraid my system would prob be too dark or too warm.

Between you and me, Pete, this Puron is actually more effective than MC-05 and more beautiful sounding

FYI Mad Scientist Audio's Graphene Contact Enhancer is much cheaper and appears and is applied exactly like the much more expensive Q45T

nasaman,

I noticed your comment about the MC-05. What do you think of using both the HF MC-.05 and the Puron at the same time? Prefer one over the other? I am using both the (HF Helix Signature+) and the Puron’s at the same time. I have never removed the HF plug while using the Puron. I guess I could, but to me, the HF stuff takes time to break back in once unplugged.

Once I get additional Puron’s I will no longer need to move them back and forth between my audio and video. Then, I probably will apply some NPS-1260.

ozzy

@ozzy :

I am such a tweaker...

Yup. I cannot help it…. your system must sound like schiit without one of your 127 tweaks 😂🤷‍♂️😉🤦‍♂️🧐😝

@ozzy I have 5 of MC-05 and 2 of MC-1. I left them in when adding Purons in my system. The finding was posted here in this thread.

thyname,

Yup, originally it probably sounded like yours?

ozzy

@ozzy 😂😂. Good one. I deserved it.

thyname,

I know these tweaking things sound questionable, but some are really impressive.

Besides, I have to do something with all my money before my heirs get it...

ozzy

Oh I know. I “tweak “ a lot. Too. My comment was a friendly joke

I received an email response from Akiko Audio regarding the break in period and their newest tuning stick. Here it is,

The burn-in time of the tuning sticks is indeed about 14-21 days. You can add a Triple AC Evolution to your system. This new Triple has a completely different structure and goes well with the older version! It is a nice product, which offers a lot of quality, in my opinion.

Who wants to try these Akiko plug-ins?

I can not yet for 2 reasons, my system currently sounding wonderful. 2nd, TESLA stock is falling off the sky and I’m hurting.

I have a number of Akiko products. They all do what it says on the tin very well

@antigrunge2 I believe there’s something to say about the fact that Akiko has  been able to stay in business for such a long time. Not sure if that’s due to the cost and effectiveness of their products or if it says more about their savvy business practices but they were one of the first, if not the first to make these ac plugs. And I’ve found that by being anal about where I place the tuning sticks, that I’ve been able to finely tune the sound. I don’t doubt that other more recent products might perform better but the Akiko Sticks have worked for me. I may at this point however be more willing to try the Less Loss products. But has anyone tried the AC Triple Evolution?

I have a Puron on the way. I have the Furutech device and never felt it did much in my system however. After watching the filter shootout video I was wondering if anyone has tried or would be willing to try plugging the Puron into an extension cord that could reach your listening position. Hoping this would emulate doing an AB comparison without relying on someone to help. From what I have read from Puron owners on this thread is the unit would only herd when pulled as seems its effects come on over time. Any thoughts or volunteers for this experiment?

@antigrunge2 I have also and they work well.

I have an NFC plug in and it is nowhere near the LessLoss Firewall 640X.

I have a number of Akiko products. They all do what it says on the tin very well

sandston.

The only drawback is that keeping the Puron closest to the main AC equipment input/outlet is preferred. A long extension cord may negate its effectiveness. But you can try it.

ozzy

Good Evening,

Per my note to everyone in the Puron queue, they did in fact arrive tonight on time.

Tomorrow they will begin shipping. Look for Tracking Numbers for those that have paid in the AM


Beyond these, another shipment is leaving next week to arrive by Friday.


Thanks to all for your patience

There are more reviews coming – today, Aural Musings posted their excellent review on Facebook


Thanks again,


Mark

Has anyone else tried the Puron's?  I just got a couple more.

ozzy

I just got a couple more.

And the verdict is??

Quick short note

I’ve had several requests for Puron in 220/240 volt configurations.

We will have these with US Style -  Nema 15 Plugs this week – arriving Thursday

We will have the same as above with Schuko style Plug arriving next week Wednesday or Thursday

Thanks

Mark

thyname,

I wasn’t able to try them yesterday. Today is the first with 2 of them on the same dedicated circuit.

So, with just a couple hours there seems to be more of everything. That is; bigger, deeper soundstage, stronger bass and for some reason the music seems to be a little louder at the same volume settings?

ozzy

Immediately I heard better sound with a Puron plugged into a power conditioner.  Average to poorly recorded cds are more engaging, with more of a "you are there" feel.  I can now look forward to rediscovering old music.  I have ordered two more units.

sgordon1,

Have you tried it on video yet?

ozzy

Tweaking the Puron:

Bad: copper sleeve, E-card

Good: Walker Talisman

Excellent: Fo.Q tape, small strips on end, opposite the plug

A nice, subtle enhancement of all of the pluses.

Both pieces of the tape could fit on the fingernail of your middle finger.  I did not cover up the blue light.

I will get some video feedback when the new units arrive next week.

sgordon1,

I tried the FoQ tape and at first, I liked it, but then I began to detect the closing in of the upper frequencies and the soundstage. So, I removed it.

Question:

Has anyone tried the Puron’s into a power conditioner? I initially tried the Puron’s plugged into my Niagara 7000 and did not like it. I even wrote a review about it. But now after many hours of working with them I have discovered certain things do not work well with the Puron’s. It’s not the Puron’s fault so just don’t be afraid to experiment.

Thus far I have been plugging them into the wall where the conditioner plugs in. But next step will be the conditioner again. Anyone find they work better in or out of the power conditioner?

ozzy

Loving two Purons plugged into Synergistic Research Powercell 12, and can really hear the contribution of the second unit.

I am seeing richer colors and better contrast on a 15 year old Panasonic tv, after just one hour of use.

So here is something that I have discovered with the Puron.

I have just begun experimenting with them plugged into my AudioQuest Niagara 7000 power conditioner instead of at the wall and I have noticed a strange phenonium.

I started by using 3 Puron’s plugged into each of the 3 sections of power outlets on the Niagara. That is: High power, Analog and Digital.

To my surprise, the music is louder, quite a bit actually. I’m not sure if sonically it is an improvement at this early point, but the music is definitely louder.

Can the Puron’s be affecting the circuitry inside the Niagara? I wish someone else with this power conditioner could chime in, or perhaps anyone who can help explain it.

ozzy