Teo Game-Changer IC's - get on the bus!

I thought I was done when I changed everything over to a Cerious Technologies Graphene Extreme cables and then I went and did it, I tried the Teo. Crap! It's better than anything else I've tried and I've owned the very expensive Morrow Elite Grand Reference. The Teo's better. Its so completely organic and natural sounding. I won't give up my CT Graphene speaker cables but for interconnects it's Teo Game Changers for me now.

You have nothing to lose but will gain a drastic emotional connection to the music...

Wig ;o)

Anyone demo the GC's against the Silnote cables? I'd be interested to hear your observations specifically against the Poseidons. 

To get an idea, see Doug's review at Dagogo.com on both Silnote and Teo Cables.

Wig

Thank you Wig.

I got my pair yesterday. I am a little reluctant to post this, as I don't want there to be a run on them before I get my second pair, but...

Everything the OP and others have said about these ICs is true. Game Changer is indeed an appropriate name for them.

tommylion, how long did it take to get from when you ordered it?  I ordered the Splash on April 10th and a pair of GC's a couple of days later and they still have not shipped.   I know they are getting a run on them and also may be waiting for supplies so that may be delaying things a bit. 

Apologies for the delays, we are moving along on the orders as fast as we can.

The materials for the Splash have arrived and now we are making them, and then a burn in test-listen, to be sure things are as they should be.

The Splash Rs is terminated with WBT's finest RCA connectors, the 0152/Ag.

Which direction do the GC cable go, arrows to the source or from the source?
Thanks

Hey teo_audio...

I placed an order on the 14th through your ad on this site for a 1 meter game changer. Just wondering if you received it?

Thanks.... Mark 

Hello Mark, yes we received it and you went on to the list the very same day.

Ok... that’s cool. No rush... I figured you are swamped.

Peace... Mark

I just ordered a 1 meter GC today. It will be used between a Marantz SA11S3 SACD and a Marantz PM11S3 integrated. It will be replacing a Signal Cable Silver Resolution IC. Looking forward to hearing this cable. What improvement can I expect with the GC? 

everyone stop placing orders so they can catch up. :-)

@ lancelock

I'm currently auditioning a pair of Cerious Graphene Extremes. They are between a Coda CSIB Integrated (solid state) and an Oppo BDP-105D.

I also have a trio of Amadi Maddie Signatures with different RCAs (gold, solid silver and rhodium).

The Cerious GTs are the best of the group with my equipment and ears but the Amadi MS with the Gold RCAs is a close second. Personally, I think that the solid silvers and the rhodiums would be better suited for improving a Tube set up.

Anyway, could you please elaborate on why you find the Game Changers to be better than the Graphene Extremes? What equipment are you using them on?

I'm also tying out the Cerious Red Power cord with the Oppo. It has made a big improvement with the overall body of sound coming from the Oppo. 

Thank you

@ rpw


Arrows point to the power source. Imagine the sound flowing from the CDP, TT, etc to the power source. The arrows show the flow of the music from the source to the power to your speakers to your ears.

Thanks meambler
rpw

meambler,

others on this thread I believe have followed the same path and are perhaps better at describing the differences. I can say they are more natural and organic sounding and the difference was not subtle. I still think the Graohene Extremes cables are a Big Bang for the buck and the speaker cables are the best I've ever heard. That being said I've never heard Teo's SC's and probably can't afford them.

Glad these are working out for you guys. I need to buy the Splashes but am building a deck right now and it is sucking my cash supply down big time.

I moved on from the Cerious IC's pretty quickly. The Cerious SC's are fantastic for the price.

"I can say they are more natural and organic sounding and the difference was not subtle."

That's a pretty good description of what I'm hearing GC vs. GE, as well.

I am also very happy with my other GE cables (digital, power), and am planning on getting SCs ...unless I win the lottery and can afford the Teos 😉

Glad these are working out for you guys. I need to buy the Splashes but am building a deck right now and it is sucking my cash supply down big time.

I moved on from the Cerious IC’s pretty quickly. The Cerious SC’s are fantastic for the price.

I was wondering why I did not hear from you. (after I sent you the Splash Rs pricing)

I guess you are in deep the misery of spacers, trying to get the end cut right, cement corner post leveling, crying to the heavens about bad crooked but ridiculously expensive boards, worn out shaky triceps, sore necks, and bad fitting knee pads.

Why are you building a deck? You'll never leave your stereo once you get the Teo ICs in your system... they are that good!!!

He planned that project perfectly! It is hard to get any projects around the house done when you're glued to your listening chair marveling and scratching your head on how these Teo cables perform the way that they do...

Wig

Still thinking about the Game Changers and wondering what would be the best upgrade for my system.  Should I replace my MacBook Pro with a Melco server/NAS, or would the better investment be to replace my Morrow MA4's with the GC's.  I acknowledge this is kind of an apples vs bananas question, but at the end of the day I'm trying to figure out which would have the bigger impact on SQ .  There's certainly a cost difference in each choice but Melco's are now commonly available for around $1300 so the gap is not so wide.  In any case, which would be the bigger step forward do you think?

@wig , did you get your Splash R's yet? Any thoughts?

Not yet, they are being made and tested and will possibly ship mid-week.

Wig

Should I replace my MacBook Pro with a Melco server/NAS, or would the better investment be to replace my Morrow MA4's with the GC's.

@janehamble No question, GC's will offer you the most improvement in your system. When I first tried the Teo Splash Ref C in my system, the clarity of the sound became immediately apparent. I could *see* the sound of the drum so clearly, the shape of the singer's mouth, it was all there. I've since added the Standard and couldn't be happier with the sound.

With Teo's fantastic return policy, I would encourage you to give them a listen and decide for yourself.

@bumperdoo  Thanks for your advice.  I think I'm going for it and will keep you all posted.  Hopefully they won't take too long to arrive.  I hear many people claiming miraculous improvements when they move from serving hi-res files from a computer to a high quality server such as Melco or MicroRondue.  However I think this technology is moving at such a pace - if you wait 6 months there's a totally new approach.  It's a bit too dynamic for my taste.  I'd rather make an upgrade I'll be happy with for a few years at least.  No way can I justify the Splash Ref C but the GC's seem to have most of the attributes at a more  affordable cost.  Can't wait to hear them.

Hi teo_audio,
is there still a 7-9 days waiting period for the GC's? What is the recommended break-in time once received?

Am currently demoing a few cables but am afraid the 30-day return policy may expire on those if the GC's take more than a couple of weeks. 

Thanks...

can't exactly answer for Teo, but I ordered the Splash on April 7th and the GC on April 10th and none of my orders have shipped yet.  But I think it may be shorter now depending on if they have all of the supplies and parts they need.  

I received my GC ic's the other day, after reading about them on this site.
Here are my quick thoughts. I have HFC ultimates thru-out my set-up, so I wasn't expecting to much.

I put them between my preamp and amps. Stone cold they sounded really good. 
I had 2 friends over and we agreed that they are excellent sounding. The tonal balance was very similar to my Ultimates, I was surprised by that and impressed.
 
They are very smooth and natural sounding with great tone and openness.
The million dollar question, did they dethrone my much more expensive ic's? No, the HFC ultimates are faster, have more detail, and image better, but the GC are great and not only for the money.

They are so organic and natural sounding. The imaging is a little diffused not as pinpiont as the HFC. They probably are more accurate because at live shows you really don't get such sharp imaging. 

I probably will return them and try there higher end models. IMHO, I think mixing the HFC cables and Teo's cables is the perfect combination. All Teo's might be a little to relaxed sounding.

For the price, I think the name is fitting. ;)

BRM, thanks for bringing these fine cables to everybody's attention.
Don't have audio nervosa with your SC, keep them they are excellent. I had the HFC Ultimate SC's and like the CT extreme graphene better IMS.

Joe

I forgot to mention IMO, the Teo cables would work wonders in an all solid state system or a system that leans a little to the bright side.

Joe 

can't exactly answer for Teo, but I ordered the Splash on April 7th and the GC on April 10th and none of my orders have shipped yet.  But I think it may be shorter now depending on if they have all of the supplies and parts they need. 

Yours is the oldest unserved order in the system. And the parts to finish it are finally landing today. Which is a good thing...

We're setting up new adverts to say '9 business days' before the ship date as we are trying to slow the orders down a bit. Just so we can catch up. Which we are getting to (speeding up, that is).

We are also moving to a new facility, which complicates matters. Apologies for the minor slips in delivery/ship dates.

As for any 30 day trial periods, that does not begin until you sign for the parcel, at delivery. Even then it is not a strict number. Generally, you’ll know within minutes of when you install the cables and hear a few notes. We are running at an approximate 3% return rate.

However I think this technology is moving at such a pace - if you wait 6 months there's a totally new approach.

I'm with you @janehamble and why I went the Mac mini with dedicated linear power supply route and couldn't be happier. System will be great for years and years to come as it just serves up the audio stream to a nice Meitner DAC. Bliss.

Yep, my MBP with Recovery and decent USB cables sounds pretty good, to my ears.  I suspect the gap between what I've got and servers like Melco is not so dramatic - one day I'll confirm that.  Meanwhile, I've jumped in line for GC's and can't wait to get them plugged in, replacing my not-bad Morrow MA4's.  I'll be able to give you all a report of their performance with mid-fi electronics LOL

Janehamble, the Teo GC's are better than my very expensive Morrow Grand Elite Reference IC's so rest assured.

Hi Teo_Audio-
Your Audiogon add says there is a 5 year warranty with registration. How do you register the GC cable after purchase?  I don't expect any issues but just in case.

My GC also replaced a Morrow MA-4 and was a big improvement. Tried The GC between my pre and amp and also between my cd player and pre.  Either way made a big difference.

Just a thought here. The very best IC I've heard in my system[so far] has been the Analysis Plus Golden Oval. A friend of owns it. I currently use a very nice Audio Sensibility Signature which is very nice[in my system]. A friend also uses the same A S. Signature. Now has anyone heard the Teo Game Changer compared to a Analysis Plus Golden? Just wondering? Cheers, Bluenose

I would like to read more about Teo cabling vs. other brands...

Almost need a cable shoot-out!

bumperdoo
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Almost need a cable shoot

yeah, like that would only take what about 3 years to do correctly. How long is break-in time? 200 hours? Besides, who do you trust to do the shoot out? 😬

Besides, who do you trust to do the shoot out?

@geoffkait  Which is why I think the return policy is golden - cause at the end of the day, you can only trust one thing - well two things - your ears.

Taras brought over some liquids and that's what I did - we went from my Kimber cables to the Splash RC to the Standard and I drew my own conclusions. Right now I'm using a mysterious TEST01 cable of theirs using Eichmann plugs between my Audio Valve Eklipse pre-amp and the Meitner MA-1 DAC and the Standard between the pre and the PS Audio BHK 300 mono blocks. Taras is looking for my feedback on the TEST01 prototype.

If anyone has compared the GC, or other Teo cables, to Audio Note (copper or silver), I’d like to hear from them.

geoffkait,

If the conductor in these cables is not liquid metal, then what would you call it?

It's a slurry. Metal cannot be a liquid at room temperature. Well, except for Mercury. 

It’s a slurry. Metal cannot be a liquid at room temperature. Well, except for Mercury.

Teo says it’s a "eutectic" blend of Gallium, Indium and Tin, similar to what is used as a replacement for Mercury in thermometers.

eu·tec·tic yo͞oˈtektik/ CHEMISTRY
adjective
1.
relating to or denoting a mixture of substances (in fixed proportions) that melts and solidifies at a single temperature that is lower than the melting points of the separate constituents or of any other mixture of them.
noun
1.
a eutectic mixture.

slurry. /ˈslʌrɪ/ noun (pl) -ries. a suspension of solid particles in a liquid, as in a mixture of cement, clay, coal dust, manure, meat, etc with water.

So you’re saying that one, or more, of the above elements is suspended as solid particles?

What I’m saying is the Teo cable dude told me a long time ago HE called it a slurry. It’s not my word. It’s obviously not liquid metal. I thought we already covered that.

Obviously, whatever one calls it doesn’t change how it sounds, but it is good to know what to call it properly.

This may shed some light on the subject:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_metal


teo audio,

can you clarify what the proper scientific term is; "slurry", "fluid metal", something else?

I call it the Slurry with the Bifringence on Top.