Teo Game-Changer IC's - get on the bus!

How are the cables sounding @limniscate ? Will only get better with time...

Why are you building a deck? You'll never leave your stereo once you get the Teo ICs in your system... they are that good!!!

Should I replace my MacBook Pro with a Melco server/NAS, or would the better investment be to replace my Morrow MA4's with the GC's.

@janehamble No question, GC's will offer you the most improvement in your system. When I first tried the Teo Splash Ref C in my system, the clarity of the sound became immediately apparent. I could *see* the sound of the drum so clearly, the shape of the singer's mouth, it was all there. I've since added the Standard and couldn't be happier with the sound.

With Teo's fantastic return policy, I would encourage you to give them a listen and decide for yourself.

However I think this technology is moving at such a pace - if you wait 6 months there's a totally new approach.

I'm with you @janehamble and why I went the Mac mini with dedicated linear power supply route and couldn't be happier. System will be great for years and years to come as it just serves up the audio stream to a nice Meitner DAC. Bliss.

Almost need a cable shoot-out!

Besides, who do you trust to do the shoot out?

@geoffkait  Which is why I think the return policy is golden - cause at the end of the day, you can only trust one thing - well two things - your ears.

Taras brought over some liquids and that's what I did - we went from my Kimber cables to the Splash RC to the Standard and I drew my own conclusions. Right now I'm using a mysterious TEST01 cable of theirs using Eichmann plugs between my Audio Valve Eklipse pre-amp and the Meitner MA-1 DAC and the Standard between the pre and the PS Audio BHK 300 mono blocks. Taras is looking for my feedback on the TEST01 prototype.

How does someone register there cables with you?

Hey @daver143 - I wouldn't be too concerned. You bought the cables from Teo so they know what you bought, when and by whom - my guess is you are golden.

"Wow, x sounds so real!"

Freaky, isn't it @tommylion ? When I first auditioned Teo cables, I ran back to the rack to see what components were swapped in while I wasn't looking! It just works...

I suspect it might take getting in a pair of Splashes to do so.

Teehee... you truly owe it to yourself... run with the GCs between the DAC and the Pre and a pair of Splash ICs from the Pre to the Amp. Just glorious. I'm currently running with Splash between the Meitner MA-1 DAC and the Audio Valve Eklipse pre and a pair of Standards between the pre and a pair of BHK 300 mono blocks. Lovin' it...

Would be nice to get some kind of acknowledgement or reply to messages.

@janehamble I know they are super backed-up but I agree, getting an acknowledgement would be cool! I'm seeing Taras (one of the partners) tonight and will mention it.

Hey @janehamble - you're all good on your order. Teo crew is slammed with orders and are spending their time building and shipping rather than trolling the forums... Ken indicated target ship dates for most recent orders. Every cable is made to order and auditioned before shipping so you know what you get is *gettin' on the bus* worthy.

Taras told me last night they're working flat-out to get the cables shipped, but patience is needed... but certainly worth the wait!

Has anyone tried their speaker cables?

They don't sound bad at all, but putting them in certainly wasn't some sort of revelation or wow moment with them as other posters have reported.

I have found the cables take 50 to 80 hours to break in @kclone at which point the system really settles into its glory. Patience... report back once they've had time to settle. Both my Splash and Standards took about that long.

Taras is coming by again today to do some more critical listening of TEST01 prototype cable. Should be interesting... 

It is quite a price jump from the Game Changer to the next model up which, I'm assuming is the splash, at present?

I believe you're right @bluenose that it'll sit between GC and Splash - I'll confirm with Taras later today.

Cables warming up now with some Art Pepper...

Confirmed @bluenose - that's the plan.

They are starting to sound really good - have been tweaking for about 2 weeks now...

Are they $1700 worth better?

Likely you are the only one who can determine that @meambler but in my experience, it's a screaming from the rooftops "Yes!"

UPS somehow shipped my package with the GC 900 miles from my house

Oh man, that really sucks @kclone 

I'd give the cables a solid 60 to 80 hours in my experience... the day will come when you'll sit down and have *the moment* when you stare in dis-belief...

I had that *moment* about 1/2 hr. after I hooked them up. Can't wait to hear what's gonna happen after 70hrs or so.

Totally amazing eh @meambler 

honestly, "that day" has not come yet with the Spash.

Hmmm... I may be stating the obvious @kclone but have you loosened the barrels on the WBT connectors, slide them onto the components, then finger tightened the barrels? On first blush, me thinks the connectors may be vibrating if not connecting properly resulting in the harsh sound you're hearing.

I'm sitting here with Taras auditioning a pair of silver Splash cables that will be en-route to a customer tonight and "harsh," is not a word that comes to mind, even playing something like Howling Wolf.

Let us know!

Interesting that your new orders wait time will be shorter

It's one of those space-time continuum thingies @ozzy ... very difficult to explain unless you're Canadian eh... :)

Come on, this is terrible! You've got to get better than this!

@ozzy Come on buddy, it should be no surprise that Teo is slammed with orders. They can spend their time here telling people they are slammed and answering email or being busy hand-building your cable - which would you prefer? They are the most amazing ICs on the market today - your patience will be rewarded, trust me.

Has anyone auditioned the speaker cables?

Yes indeed @emailists - sublime. But I'd wait a bit before going there just now. With Ken's hand injury, the backlog of IC orders, and I know some exciting things are coming on the speaker cable end, I'd sit tight for a bit if you can?

I knew a guy once, you'd be at a bar with a group of people and someone would shout out, "Next round is on me!" and he'd say, "Too bad the beer isn't cold enough..."

Excellent - now perhaps we can get back to the theme of this thread...

Anybody want to update their experience with the product?

I'm continuing to love my Splash an Standard cables @meambler - currently using the Splash Copper between my Meitner MA-1 DAC and Audio Valve Eklipse pre-amp and the standard between the pre and BHK 300 mono blocks. Absolutely loving what I'm hearing. It's all there - soundstage, speed, plosives... everything.

Weak recordings and sub-standard equipment will show their short-comings rather quickly with these cables. There is no hiding...  :)

why would you want something in your system that shows everything how bad it is?

Ah, I see what you are saying @kclone - let us say you are sitting there listening to a wonderful recording on your GCs and really enjoying the music. Then you flip to another album and you say to yourself, "Oh, compared to the last album, this recording isn’t all that great!" whereas with lesser cables, you would not have noticed a difference.

The GCs will elevate your listening experience and will reveal more of the sound that you've likely been missing. Great albums will amaze you, ok albums will be just that, "Ok."

Anyone experienced the difference between the Silver Splash and the Copper Splash?

I have compared the Copper to the Silver Splash cables @jmcgrogan2 and they are very similar; I find the Silver gives you a little more definition. For example, if the artist is singing and using plosives like say the word "Play," the copper will give you all the definition, the silver just allows the sound to have more definition. I think of it as *seeing* the shaping of the plosive "P," coming from the singer’s mouth. If you have fast speakers, the subtlety is amazing. I love the sound of the copper but may be switching to the silvers - Taras and I did an A to B test last Friday and drew the above conclusion.

So it sounds as if the difference is similar to the difference between solid metal copper and silver cables.

I'd say less than you're used to with copper and silver solid cables @meambler ; whereas silver was distinct from copper with traditional solid cables; liquid silver cables are more plosive than copper as a refinement.

Solid silver cables can be very different from their copper counterparts from the same vendor in my experience. The difference between Splash Copper and Splash Silver is a refinement for those who want or prefer that slightly more defined edge to the sound. It's not as distinct a difference as you may expect.

I find that silver offers more definition than copper, in a general sense.

Agreed @jmcgrogan2 

Well I received a refund for my purchase.

Hey @ozzy sounds like the best solution and you got what you asked for...

Come on, this is terrible! You've got to get better than this!

They listened and re-imbursed you cause they were unable to meet your expectations - good on Teo.

Enjoy those Cerious and High Fidelity cables - I'm sure they'll be pleased to have you as a customer. Happy listening.

*sigh*

I give up - it's a boutique company that *hand builds* cables per order. It should not be any mystery that they are back-logged if you read through the thread and no mystery that they don't spend their time answering questions online.

By my math, they were still within the 9 days promised when you told them it was unacceptable - in their shoes, I would have done the same and moved on to clients who are appropriate for boutique-type products and re-imbursed your money.

As for the 4 to 5 days - you need to read what was written, that was their goal but current listings are very very clear... "(Note: there is an approximate 6-8 business day period before shipping, as these are made to order, and there is a backorder list, at this time)"

Enjoy the Cerious and High Fidelity cables buddy...

For now I've stopped looking.

Till you hear their Splash cables @meambler ... I was in the exact same boat, absolutely blown away by their GCs, till Taras had my try the Splash Copper ICs... wowzers... 

Bumperdoo, I thought you had a Splash Silvers?

@kclone I have the Splash Copper at the moment... seems you can’t link to a specific post in this forum software, but if you scroll back you’ll see Taras brought over a pair of Silvers to test before shipping out to a client and we both agreed that we liked the edge definition of the silvers in this system and quite likely will be switching to those...

How much are the Splash coppers?

I’ll find out for you @meambler as I’m seeing Taras today for some more listening tests and will ask him current pricing. I poked around here and found this post from Teo...

  https://www.audiogon.com/listings/interconnects-teo-audio-splash-rs-1m-different-physics-math-different-result-2017-05-02-cables-k7l-4v1

I wander if this all is just another flaviour of the month.

Perhaps @dragon_vibe but Teo has been around a dozen years.

Taras and I are sitting here listening.. pricing:

• Splash Ref C USD$1950
• Splash Ref S USD$2200

He says limited time... hope that helps!

Simply awesome @kclone - enjoy your bliss!

Re-discover your music collection and don't be shocked if you say things like, "Wow, I never heard that before," or "Jeez, I never really listened to the drums on this album before, but now that I see the entire drum kit..."

I have really never understood the cables are nonsense crowd.

Don't go there @kclone - some are just here to stir the pot. Look at the posts they've started and you'll go, "Ah, one of those..." and move on.

I enjoy it so much, one of the best ic I tried.

Awesome @jayctoy - they are indeed sublime.

surely, the cablemakers would publish such studies, eh?

In a heart-beat @randy-11 as the difference derived from a Teo cable is that pronounced. I would encourage you to try a blind test and report back on your findings.

Totally directional @limniscate - arrows should point away from your pre-amp toward your amp(s), for example.

He's pulling your leg @kclone 

could be just a bad fit with my equipment

What is your setup @janehamble ? And where in your system are you auditioning the GCs?

Very sweet @tommylion - I hear you just received them... let us know initial reaction and then again once they've settled in... prepare for some wonderful musical bliss...

What computer @janehamble ?

Sometimes it's a very simple thing that is over looked - for example, on the Mac, make sure the Audio Devices utility has the Master volume on the USB output set to 1.0. Anything less and you'll get crap.

It's too bad this forum doesn't permit the upload of images so I can show a screenshot instead of attempting to describe things. Ugh.

Macbook pro 8 gigs,  ssd hard drive

Yah, check the Audio MIDI Setup in the Utility folder on your MacBook Pro and confirm the Master volume is set to 1.0. I'd start there.

The GCs should shine so I'm thinking there might just be a tweak needed elsewhere in your system to bring them alive.

Waiting for UPS to deliver my second set of GCs...

Delivery today @tommylion ?

Where are you using the first set in your system and where will the second set be going?

Hey @janehamble how did you make out with the suggestion? Lets get that system of yours humming along beautifully...

What is a...

balanced digital cable

@tommylion ?

How do you order the CG cables? The web site lacks pricing and ordering info.

Order them right here on Audiogon @trouble1555

https://www.audiogon.com/listings?utf8=%E2%9C%93&global_search_text=teo

How'd you make out @janehamble - you got all quiet on us?

What a ridiculous thread over on CA @randy-11 - not sure how that adds to the discussion here on these excellent ICs.

@dlcockrum - teehee... probably!

Interesting... just checked out @randy-11 posts:

  Randy's posts

People like this have nothing positive to add to audio forums on any topic and only serve to drive real lovers of music away. Shame.

You are nuts @meambler judging an audio product based on how it sounds!!! Crazy... lock you up...

@randy-11 you really need to move on.

You add zero value and you are becoming circular in your comments. Time and again (me included) we have stated that we have tested different cables and settled on these for a variety of reasons.

I've done the blind tests - results are conclusive in my setup. I can pretty much tell you which cable is which if you want to? No problem.

Yes @wcheng2 - bliss. Will make you re-think what a passive pre can do in your system.

I'm not Teo, I'm Batman!

My thinking's not magical, it's eclectic! Try spelling that 3 times fast...