You are an example of the reason I referred to earlier about preferring to MP with those who are serious -- not those who use the forum to try to score brownie points.
One might imagine that I am the only audiophile who prefers the Furutech rhodium products to their gold products. In which case Furutech has obviously made a terrible mistake in their design. Of course, I doubt that this is the case. I am not alone in my preference. So, "in my system" obviously does not mean only in my system, and my system alone, whatever anyone else including Chris V. or others say. You see, the problem is that you cannot make rules about everyone's systems. Need I state the obvious that not all systems are alike -- so one size does not fit all. Hence, Furutech offers 2 choices to its customers -- rhodium and gold. And for a good reason. I believe this is obvious.
I believe I am not alone in my preference for Furutech rhodium. I also believe Furutech knows what they are doing. Those who imply that Furutech does not know what they are doing may have underestimated Furutech. I believe that Furutech's rhodium receptacle is right on the mark and that this fact is underlined by a well-researched review on enjoythemusic.com that covers outlets from various companies, including the Furutech rhodium.
Here is a 2-paragraph quote from the aforementioned review:
"GTX-D achieved the highest levels of both resolution and smoothness, something usually not seen together in one product. If one switched from the $1 house outlet to GTX-D, the staggering amount of previously-unheard resolution, clarity, and dynamics will likely be startling to the listener. All that extra information and energy is delivered in a defined, controlled way, without various sound bites getting out of control and ragged as can happen with lesser outlets. Bass is not overblown or obscuring; instead, it is tight, defined, and extended with energetic dynamic punch. Tiny sounds from various nooks of soundstage come alive with crystalline and pure delivery while instrument positioning, layering, and depth become effortlessly obvious. To make matters worse (?), GTX-D delivers a gorgeous, tasteful, 3-dimensional solidity in the all-important midrange without going overboard with overly round and thick presentation. This outlet is not held back by a overly "balanced" but boring presentation with polite, reticent midrange presence, either. The voices have superb reach into the room and soundstage, vivid and forward enough to be engaging while not overcooked, especially in the sibilance and presence region."
"What are the flaws? Well, Furutech must have a reason for making the gold plated version of GTX-D as well for a different flavor. Some of the Furutech vendors recommend the rhodium version for neutral to warm systems, probably with tubes, which may mean the gold version, may fit better in neutral to cool systems. Not having the GTX-D Gold in house to compare to Rhodium, it is difficult to say for sure, but going by prior experience with gold vs. rhodium plating, one might presume that GTX-D (g) might have a warmer tonality with possibly more bass quantity, albeit with less tightness. It may also have more forgiveness but not as much detail resolution. Would that make (r) version any less worthy and flawed? Any well-heeled audiophile would already know that systems are different and that one does not fit all. One outlet may serve a certain type of system better while the other outlet may synergize a little better with a different type of system, with final results heavily being dependent on the listener's personal tastes as well. Once again, there is no substitute for actually trying the product in one's own system, and for those audiophiles who are willing to pay the tariff and do the hard work, the Furutech should be on the rather short list."
The rhodium doesn't sound too shabby at all in this well-written review -- despite comments to the contrary on this forum and despite references to Chris V. and some of his customers. The obvious fact is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, not in the talking. Some folks just happen to enjoy the taste of rhodium -- knowing that others prefer the flavor of gold. It may surprise some but there is room for both in the world of high end audio -- and, obviously, a need for both.
hey, lets all be courgial here, sorry for the spelling, I'm just some dumb person that lives in alabama!, Now laugh the both of you, outlets?, these are no more than $300.00 a piece if that, lets talk about pre-amps?, like the krell EVO 2, LOL!, that is what I need that I cannot afford right now, Ha!, then it's off to the EVO 707 proccessor for two channel use?, waite a minute, how about the krell Phantom?
Sabai, great post!, I appreciate the re-posting of the review, I have read this review many times, when I think about what it just said, I do not have a nuetral to cool system, neither nuetral to warm either, kinda in between I suppose, I am hearing the most resolute sound I have ever heard in my life anywhere, cost no object, I do not expect no one to believe this statement, does not bother me what anybody believes about what I just said, I know what I hear, The wife is up getting ready for work, I asked her what thoughts are, " A Happy medium", That's what she said, and she is a musician, with a grat ear!, so about these recepticles, I have to becareful of my choice for sure here, The main reason I am going to buy a GTX-D recepticle is not for sound at all!, that's right, not for SQ at all!, I am wanting a recepticle that can with stand a 30amp load and not melt or over heat, or down right fall to pieces under these circumstances, you guessed it, I am installing my brand new 30 amp single pole breaker that is in the bag in my utility room for MY AMPLIFIER, this way, my amp will get more current, even become more effortless, and run smoother with less heat!, the soundstage will also increase in size, not that I need any of this, but for the price of admission, why not hear what happens, I can always change it back, that is the Beauty of it all, cheers gentleman.
Hey fellas, please stop being Hostile towards each other, this is not good for the thread, it is really a turn off to other readers that wanted to comment on anything audio, Thankyou gentleman.
Tara Labs has some NEW power cords that are not on their web site yet that you can inquire about directly to Tara Labs about the info on them,and they are ready to buy now!, I have all the spec info, you may pm me via Audiogon if you like to know specifics, The new model power cords are as follows, The Cobalt A/C Reference, The Omega Evolution A/C power cable, The Grandmaster Evolution A/C power cable, cheers.
I love your sense of humor. Perhaps you and other readers of this thread can help here. I wonder how may feel that my statements in this thread -- please see below -- suggest or imply "Rhodium religion" and constitute a "snow job".
"I cannot compare the gold to the rhodium because I have never used the gold in my system."
"If gold works for you it works for you. If rhodium works for you it works for you."
"I have stated clearly that rhodium usually works better than gold in my system."
"I may be mistaken but I believe there is a very good reason why Furutech makes rhodium products."
"Regarding rhodium versus gold, there are no authorities here -- neither Chris VenHaus nor his customers nor anyone else. No one knows their system better than themselves. The only authorities are one's own ears."
"You see, the problem is that you cannot make rules about everyone's systems. Need I state the obvious that not all systems are alike -- so one size does not fit all. Hence, Furutech offers 2 choices to its customers -- rhodium and gold."
"Those who imply that Furutech does not know what they are doing may have underestimated Furutech."
"The obvious fact is that the proof of the pudding is in the eating, not in the talking. Some folks just happen to enjoy the taste of rhodium -- knowing that others prefer the flavor of gold."
"It may surprise some but there is room for both in the world of high end audio -- and, obviously, a need for both."
And quoted from the review:
"Any well-heeled audiophile would already know that systems are different and that one does not fit all."
"One outlet may serve a certain type of system better while the other outlet may synergize a little better with a different type of system, with final results heavily being dependent on the listener's personal tastes as well."
Melbguy1, I took a peak at you Gigawatt power conditioner/surge protector, I believe you made an excellent choice,but by adding a dedicated line and circuit, and plug the Gigawatt to that, the only way is up in performance, this cannot degrade your sound at all, whether it be subtle or more, depends on the equipment and current draw, the main thing with the dedicated line and circuit is that you have seperation from everything else in the house and system which improves your power to be ALOT cleaner, so when you use a ceiling fan, blender,vacum cleaner, etc..., the noise from these products that they introduce into you power lines that are likly daisy chained to each other in the walls cannot effect the dedicated line and circuit, thus, even useing the Gigawatt fine product on the dedicated line and circuit you will have a GAIN in improvement in SQ, Cheers.
Sabai, I enjoyed what you have explained about Furutech products, and you are most welcome to this thread, I would enjoy your input here on many matters, However, Please stop frustrating Melbguy1 to continue having a conflict with you on this thread, at this point, it does not matter who is wrong or right, nobody will come to this thread when they read into the conflict at hand, I know I would not stick around to long if I was the reader, I am worse than both of you with conflicts, if you do not believe me, check out the amp threads, Burmester and krell thread, this guy made out that Burmester was the Holy grail of all audio, I lost it, however, I knew when to stop and walk away, in this case here, I want all of you to stay!, just change the subject, I bet if the both of you was to share to each other what equipment you have or like, you and melbguy1 would find common ground to share the love of music and audio with each other, I want to learn from the both of you, nobody knows it all, it's wise to gain knowledge from others to add to what you have is my theory, cheers.
Thanks for your considerate post. You hit the nail on the head. Melbguy1 is frustrated. It is not pleasant when one member is frustrated and others feel they have to placate him to keep the thread from being ruined. We have seen many instances on the forum where one opinion wishes to dominate the others. IMO, this only causes problems.
As you so rightly point out, we should be here to learn and to share our experiences. Certainly, no one's experiences should be dismissed out of hand, nor should they be denigrated. As I said earlier, there is room for all opinions. Unfortunately, not everyone agrees with this point of view.
Before i use some YAMAMURA 5000 a very good cable i also went to STEALTH cable that i find to be on the lean and bright side except for the digital cable the VARIDIG SEXTET that is pretty good. Most of my cables now are by PURIST AUDIO DESIGN that i am very please with them but from a review the TARA LABS the one (power cable) are doing a very good match with my LAMM power amplifier and i will say toe to toe with PAD....
Hi Roccl007, Tara Labs Has just introduced some new power cords that have not yet made it to thier web site, they are the New Cobalt Reference, The New Evolution Omega, The New Evolution Grandmaster power cords, if you need specifics on the specs of these cables other than prices, you can E-mail me, you would have to call Tara Labs for pricing, Welcome to the thread.
Hi everyone, Did you guys see the Krell FPB 750 mcx mono blocks that just came up for sale on audiogon?, The asking price is a STEAL!, I know, The Value of my Krell 700cx went up a good bit!, If this guy knew the real value of what he has, He would be getting atleast $17,000.00 for these, They are extremely Rare to EVER see on the used market, how do I know, LOL!, I have never seen any for sale on the used market untill now, or I would have bought these in April 2012 when I had the money!, there is not that much difference in sound, however the sound stage is bigger if you go stock to stock between the monos and stereo version, cheers.
David, you would have to call Tara labs and ask for Devon scott there for pricing of cables, I do know, however, it is not my place, and Tara Labs asked me not to tell prices but to refer people to them, one good reason is like any other audio out there, there is different pricing from distributors to dealers, to other countries through out the world, LOL!, I would get in way to much trouble for anything like that!, Devon is a nice guy from New york if you know how to deal with the type, I do, anyway, my next power cable is exactly the Tara Labs Evolution Omega power cord!, cheers david.
David, all my tara labs cable models have the 8nines copper, the differnce is the dielctric in the new two top models, my models have been deemed third now, last year, was the top cables when I bought them, they had an 18 year run!, with tweeks along the way to make them better than the last few iratations of them,I have the current models of the Zero gold, Omega Gold, and standard Cobalt power cord with oyaide terminations, cheers.
sabai, please stop these Rants of post, this has been a very good thread, if you have problems with any one, I ask you to take it to E-mails instead of polluting this thread with negativity, please respect my wishes here, please!
Surely we can have some fun here, can we not? After all, high end audio life is not restricted to serious matters. This breaks up the monotony. I'm sure some members can appreciate a good laugh between all the serious stuff.
Anyway, what about putting in a good word here for David Elrod and Shunyata cables. I believe they can compete with the best of Tara -- system dependent, of course.
Full disclosure: I have no affiliation whatsoever with the audio business except as a customer.
Hi hows it all going.Im waiting for my bits to arrive,I couldn't help myself and ordered the gtx rhodium as well.If it doesn't work for me now,im sure it will in the future.Ive decided the kef ls 50 speakers are only temporary in my system.Amazing little speaker they are,Im missing full range speakers.I don't think ill be happy until I have B @ W 802 or 800 speakers for a year or two.I love those killer looks.Not his year,maybe next.
Hi..I bet they sound good..I have Osborne epitome speaker's with bass bins at home in new zealand.But they took over the whole lounge.thats why I thought id go monitors.Hence the ls 50s.Ive wanted the b@w new 800 series speakers for the longest time.And now they are a reasonable price.
Congrats Melbguy1 on the Jorma Statement speaker cables, Awsome!,I suppose I may give the Furutech GTX-D Rhodium a Spinn myself, can always take it out if it is not to my likeing,the presatation of the soundstage is my concern, I do not like a forward sound, nor a to recessed sound, a balancing act so to speak of, that in my opinion is the way live music sounds.
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