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Rockport Avior 2 vs Wilson Sasha DAW
I’m consider one of these two speakers, the Rockport Avior 2 and the new Wilson Sasha DAW. My room is 19’ x 25’ with a 20’ ceiling, the room floor plan opens behind me into a kitchen and the rest of the house. I listen at low to moderate levels and usually have to supplement the bass with a sub because of the large space. I listen to jazz, folk, classical full orchestra some old classic rock on rare occasions. I’ve always like the detail of electrostatic speakers but they all have there limitations. Looking for a great all around speaker. I Enjoy both tube and solid gear, currently using solid state spectral. I Have several amp choices from Spectral and Rowland. Just wonder if anyone knows these speakers intimately and can give me some strengths of each and an opinion which you would choose and why. I’ve been researching many other speakers and have come down to these two. Thank you for your thoughts.
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Obsidian black, Satin finish, with extra flakes.... Hmmmm... Wonder where KeithR got that from :) Oh, that’s our pair! hahahaha You can see it here, it’s badass: https://www.audiostream.com/content/show-2019-wilson-audio-dan-d’agostino-aqua-and-innuos Congratulations on your choice, the DAWs are amazing speakers! cheers, Alex Alma Music and Audio |
Excellent choice on the DAW.....wonderful speakers. Any of your electronics above would be good choices...I'd go with DAG Momentum if budget allows. VTL and ARC also good with Wilson. Another consideration would be the superlative Luxman 900 series amp and pre-amp. In terms of high end, they are priced reasonably too. Fun times ahead for you! |
Well I had the DAWs here for several months and absolutely loved them so much so that I decided I need more of this so considering moving up to the Alexia 2. Anyone done this. My room is so big in volume with the open floor plan and ceiling height that I feel I need a a bit more. At this next price point it open up more competition even in the Rockport brand. Anyone been to Sound Environments, a shop that carries both Wilson and Rockport and I’m told does a great job displaying both. However one guy told me if I liked Wilson I probably wouldn’t like Rockport that they were that different. Any opinions? |
The rockports are the best speaker out there in my opinion. Setup is huge though, there is a dealer in CO that can make them sound like crap every time, it’s amazing. I haven’t been to sound environment but if they don’t have the rockports pulled out at least 3-4 feet then you won’t hear what they should sound like. The first time I heard Rockports I hated them because it was at RMAF and the CO dealer there did a horrible job setting up. It’s their “master” setup approach. The Wilson’s have frankly never appealed to me. Always felt like they were not right in the midrange. Their new tweeter is much better than it was but it still not quite right. The big boys are fun to hear as their attack is crazy but it just doesn’t trick me like the rockports do. Anyways, good luck on your journey for the next bigger and better. :) |
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I brought home a pair of Sasha DAWs a few weeks ago. I have made some cable upgrades and put IsoAcoustic Titan footers on them because they were vibrating my hardwood suspended floor. They sound magnificent. Better sounding than I have ever heard in a store. Set up takes a lot of effort. I was using powered subs with my previous speakers but not with these Wilson’s. Subs not needed for 2 channel set up. Sure the lowest bass is not as strong as with powered subs and yes, the Alexia 2s go deeper and stronger but I’m loving the crisp clear bass of the Sasha DAWs. The 3 dimensionality of the sound stage, the instruments and voices is very impressive. |
@carey1110 I have a rather large room as well, and I auditioned the Sasha DAW's at my dealer (with my Gryphon Diablo 300 amp and my Nordost Valhalla 2 speaker cables and my Audioquest Dragon power cords). I liked the Sasha DAW's better than any other new speaker I auditioned (B&W 801 D4's, Audiovector Arette R6's, Magico A5's, Sonus Faber Amati's). BUT - even in the dealer's room I found the Sasha DAW's to be too lean sounding on hard rock, which I occasionally listen to. I remember the sales guy banging his head along to Pearl Jam and thinking no this sounds harsh... With every other type of music I found the Sasha DAW's to be stunningly good. And I couldn't get over how great I thought they looked in real-life, although I know Wilson's looks are polarizing. That said, I want speakers that cater to all of my musical tastes, no exceptions. After much effort I eventually found happiness by upgrading within my old B&W speaker's generation, D2, and upgrading to the 802's from the 803's. This generation of B&W sounds far richer and more balanced to my ear than the later D3 and D4 generation, which I agree have better soundstage depth and detail, but don't sound as musical to my ear. I would have LOVED to test out the Rockports which are said to pair well with Gryphon. But I can't have speakers in the middle of my room and they have rear-firing bass ports, so probably a no-go. I would have had to fly somewhere to hear them. |
I have had my Sasha DAWs for just over a month now. I continued to work on placement of the speakers in the room over the past few weeks. These speakers are less than a year old but since I bought them second hand I did not have the privilege of the professional Wilson set-up in my room. But I did get very helpful guidance from Wilson Audio on how to do the set up myself. I worked, I think about 12 hours over a few days finding the right position for the speakers. Yes, some people see that as a drawback to Wilson speakers but what I learned is that they can sound excellent in various positions in the room but really pop when in that one special spot. For example, now I can move around the room and the stereo image and bass response does not change. I'm sitting at my desk right now in line with the left speaker, 16.5 ft away and the stereo image is still in the center of the room. The tonal characteristics from the highs to the bass sound the same as in my listening chair. Its amazing to me. The closest I have ever experienced that is the DCS Time Windows speakers in the 1980s. I learned that the Wilson speakers want to be close to the walls. Once I moved my listening chair back to 1.25 times the distance between the tweeters, the sound stage expanded to wall to wall and floor to ceiling. So I am mystified when I see so many U tube videos showing Wilson speakers standing far out into the room. That's not where they want to be. Right now, from the outside front corner my speakers sit 50" from the front wall and 32.5" from the side walls. They are right at the outer boundary line of the zone of neutrality. I don't want to get any closer to the front wall because my speaker cables are thick and stiff and difficult to manipulate. Any closer and the speaker cables will be pressed against the front wall. The back of the speakers are just 30" from the wall. The clarity and presence of bass is very satisfying. If I seem fixated on the bass it is because I have never experienced this level of fidelity in the bass before. And do not think the rest of the sound is lacking in any way. The whole tonal balance and clarity is fantastic. Detail and resolution without the fatigue which I know is a cliche. I'm living it and loving it. Setting them up yourself with no training requires a lot of patience and perseverance. The payoff made it worth it to me. But for sure, It might have taken me a year or more to position them if I were still working. |
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Well after auditioning both I went with the Wilson and have been extremely pleased. The newer Wilson is truly amazing. I felt the Rockport was just a little soft for me. The Wilson has been a very exciting presentation. Not only did I get the DAW but later traded up x2. I can’t think of another speaker I’d want tho I’m sure there are many really great ones out there. Hope this helps. |
I am not as fortunate, in that I have a very small dedicated music room, 11.5x11.5x9.5. My Wilson dealer advised me to get the Sabrina X’s for my size room, which he thought would be too small for the Sasha DAW, but would give about 85% of the DAW. I think that they sound fantastic with my Pass 250.8 and ARC REF 6 |
@steve59 currently I’m using the Wilson Alexx V, powered by Krell FPB 300c, with the Spectral 30 sv and DCS Rossini Apex front end. All transparent cable |