PrimaLuna EVO 100 tube DAC

See my post in response to your other thread. 

The Primaluna DAC would surly make an improvement over the Wiim. The return on investment would would depend on cost and plans for the rest of your system.

Look at MHDT DACs for a good price to value tube sound. buy used

arent all the MDHT SS dacs with a tube buffer thrown on?

I had the Primaluna Dac, it just seemed boring and tubes can be a problem some times.You can do a lot better. The Wiim is great as a streamer but the Dac is not good.

I also had the Denafrips Venus 12th anniversary at the same time, the Venus is so much better at everything compared to the PL Dac..and I used the Wiim pro as a streamer until I upgraded the streamer…there are so many better dacs out there…

The Primaluna sounds like a plain vanilla Delta Sigma DAC. I would recommend you look elsewhere. You could buy the DAC to advantage of low price but you will find yourself selling it soon enough. Something as basic as Gustard DAC will give you better performance,

I heard PL DAC, and its anything but plain vanilla DS DAC. If you get a good discount, jump on it, its one of the best DACs in that price range. 

If a price of anything is very good, then you ought to be able to re-sell it for a gain, break-even, very minor loss, so, IF: at full price, it truly interests/appeals to you, and the funds are available, why not try it.

IF it is primarily the PRICE that appeals to you, not the thing itself, I would skip it.

I see you are ONLY considering a DAC with Tubes, which is a One Time Tinker

rather than using Tubes for other existing/future sources, eventually trying Analog Tape or Vinyl via Tubes, a Tube Tuner, CD thru tube preamp ...

Eventually try Tube Amplification?

Looking at your Yamaha and speakers, different dacs won’t change anything…you need to upgrade the whole system otherwise you are throwing away money…just enjoy what you have until you can make a big move…

If you want an interesting Tube DAC:

https://www.borderpatrol.net/dac/

It is also on sale.

Good advice above on not getting carried away with going "tubey". Set upgrade goals and a path to get there.

The LTA (Linear Tube Audio) Aero DAC uses tubes in its output stage and it has pretty low output impedance of 70 ohms for se and 140 ohms for xlr for a tube implemented gear.  

Thanks everyone.  So many decisions and options.  I should build two systems :D

Have fun building a second system….

Haha, true, there's always people here saying "buy Y" when you ask about product X:)

PL is a great DAC, as are many others, and you can't go wrong with it, you'll be able to scale up your system without worrying about the DAC! Its not too tubey or old school sounding, PL gear isn't like that, its more modern sounding but with good musicality, details, body, slight warmth, but you can make it more to your taste by tube rolling. 

If you are considering upgrading your entire system then starting with the source is not a bad way to go.  

I haven’t heard either the the Prima Luna or the Wii but it should be a major upgrade 

I like Prima Luna analog gear, but their DAC wasn't a great fit in my system. Not saying it is a bad DAC at all. Just didn't feel as "analog" as I was hoping. Despite the tubes.

Something like a Denafrips Pontus, or the Metrum DACs, or the Border Patrol someone mentioned earlier, all have the analog feel more than the Prima Luna. Again, in my system at least. 

I’d not go with a Primaluna Dac. Amp, preamp, or integrated amp, absolutely yes. I had Primaluna monoblocks and used them for years to great effect with electrostatic speakers. I’d start with building a system, whether that be with an integrated, or with a preamp and build up from there. Many here poo-poo Primaluna products, and I believe that’s partly because where they’re built. But not me. I like their products, and recently sold an older pair of their Prologue 6 monoblocks for $2k. They were 17 years old and still operated as if they were in their first few years. Plus they were self biasing. I’d start over, but not with a tube dac. You begin with an amp, or a preamp, or an affordable alternative, an integrated. IMO.

For less than $1600 you can have an all tube system. 
 

https://www.usaudiomart.com/details/650159424-primaluna-evo-100-integrated-amplifier-prima-luna/

I too had this dac in my main system and it went back after 30 days.  I even rolled some tubes with it, but it never showed me any reason to keep it.  I'm sure it works great for some...just not for me.

I also agree with some of the other comments here.  Upgrade your other components first.

I decided to build an affordable second system and it turned out great.  I'll take some heat here, but I decided to try some of the Chinese components...the Willsenton R8 tube amp and the Denafrips Pontus 2...both are built like tanks and the quality of the builds are impressive.  These units run Wharfedale 85's and it has been a fun little setup, especially for the money.

Thanks for the responses.  The willsentin r8 has also been on my radar.  
 

 But I think I’ve talked myself into to separates.  

@steam_engine , I have the LTA Aero here.  I won't be sending it back.  Very nice texture, scaling, imaging and detail.  It's a winner.