One receiver for both ht and 2 channel (diff speakers)


I'm trying to set up a multi channel ht system. Maybe including height speakers and 2 small subwoofers. I plan to use book shelf size speakers for the ht.

I would also like to run a separate 2 channel system with larger full range floor standers. 

Can I do this using 1 high quality receiver?

If the receiver had a powered zone 2 would this work for the 2 channel?

Or would I need to use preouts with external amp for the 2 channel?

 

Was thinking about a Marantz 6014

johnjmark

I think you can, just put your 2 channel system on zone 2.  But you'll be better off to have a better amp for your 2 channel system.  

Not sure why you want to use different speakers for your HT system.  Your 2 channel system will likely have better speakers so it is common to use them for the front 2 channels of the HT system.  To do this is simple, you just need to take a pre-out signal for the front 2 speakers from your HT reciever to a seperate input on your 2 channel amp.  You just need to make sure your 2 channel amp has an extra input.

If you have a different reason for doing it your way I apologize for the distraction.

Jerry

I'm not really sure why you want to get this complicated?  It's quite easy to use the same floor standing L and R speakers for both, especially since you are going to be using the same receiver. 

Yeah, try HT with your 2-channel speakers and see how it works.  Also, adding a good stereo integrated amp as @carlsbad2 mentioned above will up your 2-channel performance.  If you’re not willing to incorporate a stereo amp I’d recommend an Anthem AVR.  Best of luck. 

Been there before and unless you are okay with the quality of sound, even a high quality AVR offers, then you might consider going the home theatre bypass route.

That way you can use the front left and right speakers for both HT and two channel.

Only requirements are that the preamp or integrated amp will need to have the HT Bypass option and the AVR will need to be able to "preout" the left and right fronts independently.

There is plenty of information available online and there are a multitude of amplifiers that offer HT bypass functionality.

 

your best bet is to use a seperate integrated all avrs are compromised devices 

cramming all of those circuits into one box affects musical quality.

 

 

Dave and Troy

audio Intellect NJ

@audiotroy 

+1

AVRs are about the worst thing for two channel audio there is as a category. They can work for home theater because one is distracted from the nuances of of the music. So, one naturally listens much deeper into two channel. 
 

Purpose built two channel music components sound much better than AVRs in virtually all circumstances. A well chosen source component and integrated amp for your music system will far outperform AVRs.

My Marantz 8805 has a button, "Pure Direct", which shuts down a bunch of the electronically noisy video functions when playing 2 channel audio.  It's a very noticeable difference in sound quality, though I have no comparison with that to a dedicated 2 channel audio amp.  Food for thought if you prefer a single box solution.

Well, the 8805 is just an AV preamp so the best thing would be to do an in-home demo of a good dedicated stereo preamp (that preferably has an HT Bypass input) to see how it compares.  There are definitely stereo pres out there that will far surpass the 8805 in performance, and preamps matter big time so very worth exploring IMHO.  What’s in the rest of your system BTW?

For the time being I am using a Denon x4200 receiver which has a pure direct button, although it still powers my subs. Thought I would like the pure direct with my turntable, a old Sanyo TP 825D, but I seem to enjoy the all channel stereo mode more. I have some Def Tech dipole towers with built in subs for my fronts.

if you considered av separates there would be no conflicts

In my home theater setup I use an anthem avm90 and my front stage is powered by krell 300 trio xd. I understand this type of setup may be more costly than you may like but the concept is sound and can be done with cheaper gear just as well

 

If I was to use this for 2 channel listening (which i do sometimes even though i have a dedicated 2 channel space) it sounds very good.. No special 2 channel amp. no pre outs. no confusion or complexities

"For the time being I am using a Denon x4200 receiver which has a pure direct button, although it still powers my subs. Thought I would like the pure direct with my turntable, a old Sanyo TP 825D, but I seem to enjoy the all channel stereo mode more. I have some Def Tech dipole towers with built in subs for my fronts"

 

I had tried something similar in the past with the yamaha a3080. This also has pure direct mode. In my experience, the sound quality for 2 channel was lackluster but if your coming from no dedicated 2 channel system it may be good enough. I tried using a parasound halo a21+ with this setup and it was an improvement, but still very suboptimal to what i would consider as hifi, but my friends thought it was amazing. Perspective is key

A stereo pre with HT bypass is the best option.  It's the best of both worlds for everything in one room.

Hi..i have a set up where i have my 2 fronts (B&W 702 S3) connected to the Douk VU3 Switch along with the NAD M10V2 for music.  I have the Marantz SR8015 amp connected to the switch and the rest of my speakers connected to the Marantz (7.1.4).  When i want to listen to music, i switch to the NAD amp and when i want home theater i switch to the Marantz amp.  It works great.  I also have a pro Ject Box 2 phono preamp connected to the NAD so i can listen to my turntable using stereo..

I have a Rotel 5 channel amp and want to both listen to 5-7 channel surround but also listen to my B&W speakers in stereo. I want to replace my Rotel preamp with a decent AVR with Pure sound option and pre-outs for left/right and maybe center? Looking at Marantz cinema 70 or 60. Opinions?

@dennis041992 I recently purchased an Onkyo RZ-50 I use for A/V that feed my 5.2.1 speakers (B&W). Running 2 Parasound amps for this, through per-outs on the receiver. In zone 2, I have connected my analog (TUBE) setup for stereo mode to feed my (LaScala’s). The setup is almost broken in on the Onkyo, the sound is starting to jive in the 2 channel setup. I mostly listen to LP’s so after that session, I’ll either go to the tuner or TIDAL which I just downloaded last week. Which makes it convenient to listen to an LP before purchase.