New Speakers up to $15k - The more I read the less I know!


I am looking to upgrade my speakers and I am in search of guidance. I presently have B&W 803S and I find that these are excellent speakers and have really responded as I have steadily upgraded my system. I am now looking to buy speakers that will disappear, image and sound as neutral as possible. The 803's are close. 

My system is: ARC REF110 w KT120s, ARC LS27, ARC PH8, VPI Aries 3 fully upgraded, Lyra Delos, Rega Saturn CD, Oppo Sonica DAC, AQ Water & Niagara IC's, REL R528se Sub and more...

Actually, the ARC REF110 and B&W's are a much better match that I would have ever thought and the amp has plenty of power to drive at very high levels. I mainly listen to analog. 

I am looking at Vandy Treo CT, Quatro Wood CT, B&W 802D (used) but I need more ideas... I would prefer to buy new but I will look at used if the right deal presents itself. I am leaning towards the Quatro Wood CT so if anyone has experience with these and a REF 110...?

Thank you.
pilrem
There's a set of Legacy Audio Aeris speakers w/Wavelet on this site for just over your budget (dealer demos), those sounded beautiful paired with Raven Audio tube amps at Axpona, and did that 'completely disappeared' thing you like, so I imagine they'd pair very well with your ARC amps.  

Another brand that seemed to just disappear into the music was Raidho, and while they're uber-expensive brand spankin' new, there are some nice pre-owned deals to be had.  
If you are looking for neutral then ATC should be auditioned. You could sell your tube power amp and get large active ATC on your budget.

Frankly B&W 802d is definitely a weak aspect of your setup. I would also try to audition Wilson as they will be like your B&W in the bass but with a more balanced mid range. B&W tend to have a mid range bbc style dip.

Of course all comments are guided by your request for neutral. B&W are excellent speakers but not neutral.
Quintessence Audio in Morton Grove IllinoisHolm Audio in Woodridge IllinoisNextLevel in Wayne Illinois
All good stores that I've been to.
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Thank you for support. I 100% agree that listening to as many speakers as I can will be the only way to properly judge what I like. I have heard Treo's, Quatro's, 5A Carbon's but my critical listening sessions are just beginning. I have an excellent local dealer near me (Ultra Fedilis) that carries Vandy, Sonus Faber, KEF but thay are telling me Vandy all the way. They recently had a booth at Axpona. https://positive-feedback.com/show-reports/axpona-2018-my-top-rooms-for-sound/

John at Untrafi will do the set up if I buy Vandy and I have no doubt that he is one of the very best in the US. 

Does anyone know of good dealers to find and listen to other equipoment near Milwaukee,  Minneapolis or Chicago?
If your in the NJ, NY, PA area make it a point to stop by Charney Audio in Somerset NJ. and listen to the Companion with any of the offered drivers (Omega RS7, Lowther DX65, or Voxativ AF2.6) Depending on the driver chosen you will come in well below 15K. I have had the privileged of listening to the complete B&W line and the Charney products leave them in the dust in every listening category! Imaging, Soundstage, tonal balance, detail retrieval, and serious emotional engagement!
Hope you find what moves you.  
Being a planar enthusiast, there are two $15,000 loudspeakers I would check out: the Magneplanar MG20.7i and the Sanders Model 10.
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Given what you're looking for the Vandys are an obvious choice.  I'll add the Joseph Audio Perspectives as worth a serious audition as well.  IME B&Ws don't match the transparency or 3D imaging and soundstaging capabilities of either of these, but we all hear differently so YMMV.  For something a little different, Nola speakers would definitely be worth exploring as well.  Their designer loves pairing his speakers specifically with Audio Research electronics.  Agree with others it's well worth some travel time and expense at this level.  Best of luck in your search. 

(p.s. You should also talk to Ric Schultz of Electronics Visionary Systems about modding your Oppo DAC -- serious return on investment)

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Previous comments reflect my take on this.
The best thing anyone considering buying speakers is to visit as many dealers as possible and audition as many speakers as possible.
Don't get caught up in the associated equipment. Just get you ears open.
I promise that you will find a speaker that speaks to you.

That being said, Vandersteen is probably one of the best choices out there. I, too, own the Treo's with the 2wq subs and am not in a hurry to change anything.
Other companies you may consider:
Magnepan- many Vandy lovers like them. I know I do.
Zu- I had a pair of Union that sounded very close to the 3a sigs, but something was missing...
I know that Zu and Tekton have trial periods, so you can listen to the speakers and only be out of shipping costs.

Agon member, Ctsooner will probably be chiming in soon, he has a pair of Quatro Wood CT's and knows about a lot of other speaker manufacturers. I bought his Treo's, so I would think the Quatro CT's would be a good move on your part. -In my opinion, B&W are nice speakers, but not as good as Vandy's-something about the time and phase alignment sets them apart. (And even though the Zu are full range driver/no crossover speakers, the Vandy's just seem to do thing better).
HTH
Bob
Don't solicit opinions on "sound," just ask for recommendations based on your current gear and room size; then, listen for yourself. Also, don't get stuck on price ... you may find that you can get great speakers that will fit your needs and ears for far less than your maximum price point.
pilrem,

nonoise is correct. You really should go out and listen to various speakers in that price range. If you can get an in home demo, all the better. In regards to the speakers above, I have experience with all three. I owned a pair of B&W 802D's. Nice speaker but is a little mid bass heavy in smaller rooms. The diamond tweeter is very articulate and fast. 

I now have a pair of Vandersteen  Treo Ct's, with a Vandy 2Wq sub. This combo is excellent and has the classic neutral Vandersteen sound. I also listened to the Quattro Wood Ct. It is even better overall, but alas, I could not afford them at 14k. They would be a very good choice to put on your short list of choices.
Cheers,
Tim
If I had $15K to spend on speakers, the last thing I'd do is ask for recommendations. That kind of dosh demands that you listen before you buy. Anyone here, can have the same equipment as you but your room will and can not be considered so any recommendation will be moot. Also, taste in music and listening preferences will be all over the map.

Start planning on some trips to salons and audio shows and give yourself lots of time. You'll know it when you hear it. 👍

All the best,
Nonoise