New Product - Schiit Byggy DAC Details


I was told that Schiit recently announced a program for Schist YGGY DAC owners to upgrade to the new Schiit BYGGY DAC (see upgrade link below).  Perplexity AI describes the new DAC below the =======.  The BYGGY uses a bespoke delta-sigma architecture, not the traditional Schiit True Multibit approach.  The core of BYGGY is the Singular™ 7/6 converter: a 7-bit, 6 MHz delta-sigma modulator, fully developed in-house, paired with a discrete Nexus™ analog output stage.

Please note that only EXISTING YGGY DAC owners can order the BYGGY.   General BYGGY availability is after these upgrades have been completed. An exact general availability date is TBD. 

SCHIIT says “Byggy represents Schiit’s shift to a state-of-the-art delta-sigma DAC, with a focus on in-house engineering and top-tier sound quality”.  

Initial BYGGY owner comments note excitement for the sonic improvements promised by Schiit, but also acknowledge that sound quality verdicts will depend on more hands-on listening once units are in the field.

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"Overview

• The Schiit Byggy is Schiit’s new flagship DAC, succeeding the Yggdrasil+ at the top of their lineup.

• It shares the same chassis as the Yggdrasil+ but features a different rear panel and entirely new internal design.

Technology

• Byggy uses a bespoke delta-sigma architecture, not the traditional Schiit True Multibit approach.

• The delta-sigma modulator is custom-designed by Schiit, running at 6MHz with 7-bit depth, and implemented via FPGA.

• The analog output stage is a fully discrete Nexus™ differential design.

Inputs and Features

• Two USB inputs, one optimized for higher bitrates, and compatibility with Schiit’s Forkbeard interface.

• Designed to connect between digital sources (like computers, streamers, CD transports) and analog devices (preamp, amp, receiver, headphone amp).

Positioning and Sound

• Schiit claims Byggy is their most advanced DAC, stating it sounds better than previous Yggdrasil models.

• Multibit DACs remain in Schiit’s lineup, but Byggy’s delta-sigma implementation is currently considered their best.

Price and Upgrade

• Byggy is priced at $2999 new, with an upgrade path from Yggdrasil for $2000 (unit must be returned to Schiit).

Byggy represents Schiit’s shift to a state-of-the-art delta-sigma DAC, with a focus on in-house engineering and top-tier sound quality.

The Schiit Byggy DAC’s delta-sigma implementation is considered highly advanced due to several key factors:

• Fully Custom Design: The delta-sigma modulator is 100% Schiit’s own design, based on proprietary closed-form mathematical models rather than off-the-shelf DAC chips or standard architectures.

• High Operating Rate: It runs at an exceptionally high clock rate of 6 MHz, which is much faster than typical delta-sigma DACs. This high oversampling rate reduces quantization noise and improves resolution and linearity.

• 7-Bit Depth Modulator: The modulator uses a 7-bit depth, which is relatively high for delta-sigma designs, allowing more precise digital representation before conversion to analog.

• FPGA Implementation: The modulator is implemented on an FPGA driving individual resistors, enabling precise control and customization of the conversion process.

• Discrete Nexus™ Output Stage: The analog output stage is a fully discrete Nexus™ differential design, enhancing analog signal integrity and reducing distortion.

• Innovative DSP and USB Interface: It incorporates Schiit’s Unison 384™ USB inputs and Forkbeard™ control system, enabling advanced digital preamp functionality and seamless integration.

Together, these innovations allow the Byggy to achieve superior sound quality and technical performance, making it arguably the most advanced delta-sigma DAC implementation in the world today.

In essence, Byggy’s delta-sigma design combines high oversampling, custom math, FPGA precision, and top-tier analog output to push the boundaries of what delta-sigma DACs can achieve.

Schiit’s delta-sigma modulator in the Byggy DAC is considered among the most advanced in the world for several reasons:

• Fully Proprietary Architecture: Unlike standard delta-sigma DACs that use off-the-shelf chips, Schiit’s design is based on their own closed-form mathematical models and implemented in-house, allowing for complete control over the digital-to-analog process and noise shaping.

• High Oversampling Rate: The modulator operates at 6 MHz, far higher than typical consumer DACs, which enables more effective suppression of quantization noise and greater signal fidelity.

• Greater Bit Depth: Byggy’s modulator uses a 7-bit depth, which is unusual for delta-sigma designs (many use 1-5 bits), allowing for more precise representation of the audio signal before conversion to analog.

• Custom Digital Filtering: Schiit incorporates their unique, closed-form digital filter (originally developed for their True Multibit DACs), which is designed to preserve time and frequency domain accuracy, further enhancing performance.

• FPGA Implementation: The modulator runs on an FPGA, offering flexibility and precision beyond what’s possible with fixed-function DAC chips.

These factors combine to set Schiit’s delta-sigma implementation apart from typical designs, pushing the boundaries of performance and sound quality in the DAC world.

A bespoke delta-sigma architecture refers to a delta-sigma modulator and digital-to-analog converter (DAC) system that is custom-designed by a specific manufacturer, rather than using off-the-shelf or generic delta-sigma chips commonly found in mass-market audio products.

In a typical delta-sigma DAC, standard components process the input signal by oversampling and noise-shaping to achieve high resolution and low noise. However, a bespoke (custom) delta-sigma architecture means the manufacturer—like Schiit—develops their own modulator, digital filters, and sometimes even the analog output stage from the ground up, tailored specifically for their performance goals and engineering philosophies. This allows for greater control over sound quality, noise shaping, and signal processing, setting the product apart from generic implementations".

Click here for Schist BYGGY update details

hgeifman

though some fans of the classic multi-bit sound may find it less warm or euphonic compared to the YGGY LIM DAC.

That is great news to me. 

The ForkBeard implementation of the Byggi is supposed to have a digital volume. Normally, I would frown on a volume on a DAC, but Schitt likely will have a better implementation than most.

The post above about Mike Moffet made me remember something my friend told me. This was the guy who I said compared the Tambaqui with the Yggi+ OG. My friend had done a hardware project with Jason Stoddard on an amp. He met Mike Moffet during that time and had a long conversation with him about digital audio. My friend was not knowledgeable in the digital realm, but he told me the Mike sounded like a digital genius. I never had heard of Mike Moffet before, but my friend’s praise about Mike made me take another look at the company with the funny name. I had them for a low-fi company before.

FYI - The Schiit Yggy LIM DAC (Less Is More) uses a ladder DAC architecture. Specifically, it employs four Texas Instruments DAC8812 chips—these are precision R-2R (ladder) multibit DACs, with two per channel in a balanced configuration. Schiit describes this as their “True Multibit” architecture, confirming it is a ladder DAC and not a delta-sigma or other design. 

As described above, the Schiit Byggy DAC employs Schiit’s latest custom delta-sigma architecture, featuring a 7-bit, 6MHz modulator implemented in FPGA, which aims for exceptional technical performance and transparency. Early impressions and statements from Schiit suggest it delivers the most advanced and ‘best-sounding’ Yggdrasil to date, with a focus on clarity, precision, and versatility, though some fans of the classic multi-bit sound may find it less warm or euphonic compared to the YGGY LIM DAC.

My question is how the sound quality of the Schiit YGGY LIM DAC compares to the Schiit BYGGY DAC.   No one knows since the BYGGY DAC has not been released.  We will have more information in August when the BYGGY DAC is released.

@hgeifman 

thanks for the info. Looks like I won’t have to budget an extra 4K for audio this year!

It says 
"Featuring Singular™, the first high-rate, high-bit-depth delta-sigma technology"

is delta-sigma not just another term for DSD?

@yyzsantabarbara 

I guess you haven't configured the DSD/PCM outputs correctly within the OPPO.

Try setting to DSD then PCM if that doesn't work. Also try several different discs because the OPPO is an old player and will not decode some modern discs.

I have two OPPOs.

You cable setup looks spot on.

I just tried to get my DeerFab D.BOB to output DSD over PCM to my Yggi+ OG from an OPPO player. All OPPO players work with the D.BOB. However, the Yggi+ does not seem to work.

I recently sold my Benchmark DAC3B, and it always worked with the D.BOB.

I connect the DAC and D.BOB via an SPDIF cable. The OPPO and D.BOB are connected via a HDMI cable.

I thought I had once gotten the Yggi+ to work with this setup sometime back. Maybe I have a bad cable now or the D.BOB is messed up or the Yggi+ does not support this setup, and I misremember.

System Requirements - GeerFab

Mike Moffat is one of the owners of Schiit who happens to be their DAC expert. He developed the first ever standalone DAC back in the 1980s.  He is not a fan of DSD.  I don't know if he's maybe changed his mind on this point, but here are his comments from a Head-Fi article a few years back:

"I have never published my DSD opinions. Here they are. I say opinions because the design of audio gear should adhere to hard science. The user's response however, is totally in that user's psyche. When I worked in Peru, there were tribes in the Amazon region who spoke in vocabularies limited to grunts and delighted in eating insects they found under logs. Then there are people like myself who prefer meat, coffee, dairy, sometimes things green or fruity, starches, and lots of salt. 

In the early days of digital audio, multibit reigned. It was suitable, but expensive, derived as it was from weapons guidance and medical science. Note the use of the word science. Analog numbers were converted to digital, and the reverse yielded the same number. Nothing was averaged, no noise was added, no economic engineering geniuses were allowed to make anything cheaper with smoke and mirrors.  

The earliest DACs were pretty marginal, but natural selection led to the Burr-Brown PCM-63, an amazing multibit DAC, still pretty good today. About that time, Burr Brown was sold to Texas Instruments. There began to appear delta-sigma dacs, which is a fancy name for reduced bit width DACs which used the above alluded to tricks of averaging and noise shaping to make up for the data they threw away. Soon we had TI, Wolfson, Crystal Semiconductor, Phillips, and many more manufacturers of these (now marketed as audio - read dogschiit) DACs. Why stoop to make them?? Simple - they're cheaper! Never mind they can't be used in medical imaging or defense applications because of their inherent data loss/hallucination. Too late, the audio customer had far cheaper gear. The chip makers sold lots of parts.  

Enter DSD, the ultimate extension of this idea. More noise and less bitwidth. You get for free with the bargain, the elimination of the nasty anti-alias filter effects used in the recordings. Cool, huh. This idea works well just as soon as every recording studio on the planet switches over. When that happens (right), what about the old recordings like all of those from SACD days of yore!! Oops, they are already recorded with the filter in place... Unfortunately, they are the bulk of the current DSD catalog available. Can you get DSD from iTunes?? Download DSD from Amazon?? Oh... 

What about 1, 2, 4, or 87.6x native DSD recordings. Yeah there's a few - I really loved the Folsom Prison Castrati Singers doing Handel soprano motets. My all time fave is the Orkney Island shepherd's Poems and Cries of Ecstacy with the sheep. The plaintive cries and bleats of all involved were immaculately suspended in perfect panoramic image. Even the subtle sounds of the shepherds gently placing the sheep's rear legs in their boots were clearly audible.  

Nobody ever explained to me how to design a multi-rate 1x, 2x, etc DSD DAC without a real expensive adaptive filter. Do you optimize it for 1X? 2X? 5.76X? Trouble is, then all of the other rates are compromised. Maybe the over $10K DACs do that. I haven't figured out how to make an over $10K DAC yet, maybe someone will teach me.  

In conclusion - this is opinion, mine with respect to DSD: How can I express just how underwhelmed I am. Adjectives such as stillborn, faith-based, and ludicrous come to mind.  

But wait - I actually built the Loki DSD DAC! How can I be such a hypocrite! The answer is that I will try almost anything once. If I don't like it, I won't do it again. But I could be wrong - if servers ever get big/cheap enough that iTunes and Amazon offer DSD downloads AND major label music providers begin to provide native DSD recordings in substantial numbers - then I will cook and eat a crow at RMAF. Meanwhile, all you DSDers - enjoy the grubs!! Buy a Loki!" 

@srinisr 

I searched your above question and found the info below the ====.   If you require DSD, I suggest you do more investigation because I do not know.   I have no more info on this and suggest you visit the Schiit website  

For example, the Bricasti M1 Series II fully supports DSD playback. It can handle DSD64, DSD128, and DSD256 formats, both in Native and DoP (DSD over PCM) modes, especially via USB input. DSD64 and DSD128 are also supported via other digital inputs, but DSD256 is limited to USB. The DAC is designed to recognize and process DSD streams properly, ensuring high-quality playback for SACD and audiophile DSD files.

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The Schiit Yggdrasil (Yggy) DAC does not support native DSD playback. It is designed exclusively for PCM formats and does not decode DSD in any form. If you want to play DSD files through the Yggdrasil, you must convert them to PCM using your playback software before sending them to the DAC.

The Schiit Byggy does not support DSD playback. Like other Schiit DACs, it is designed for PCM formats only; DSD files must be converted to PCM in your playback software before being sent to the DAC   

@yyzsantabarbara 

Correct. The Yggdrasil+ (Yggi+) has a larger, redesigned chassis compared to the original Yggdrasil, which makes future upgrades easier and allows for features like a remote, NOS mode, and a mute button. This new form factor is modular, so it’s designed to accommodate new internal boards and upgrades, such as the Byggy (Yggdrasil Singular) upgrade.

For owners of older Yggdrasil units, upgrading to the Yggdrasil+ chassis is necessary if you want to install the latest Byggy internals, since the new boards and features require the space and modularity of the + case. The upgrade process involves sending your old Yggdrasil back to Schiit, where they’ll install your internals into the new Yggdrasil+ chassis, making it ready for current and future upgrades. 

The Yggi+'s cases are rather large, and one reason upgrades are possible. The old Yggi's need to get the Yggi+ form factor to apply the Byggi innards.

I also like their philosophy of not making their stuff bigger (and so more expensive) than the innards demand.  I love small, cute components.

Interesting note about Schiit. I have many of their products. They are great audiophile bargains to be sure. I would add this though, my original Bifrost got an Uber upgrade. They offered upgrade on this product for years to save the customer money. Once the Bifrost 2 was introduced they ended the upgrades on the original. But in all fairness that was not what they advertised in the beginning??? I have a Bifrost, Bifrost 2, Freya Plus and a headphone amp and really like them but just be aware….upgrades until they decide no upgrades.

I should add that I have the MIB | RAAL SR1a earphones | RAAL VM-1a tube headphone amp in the bedroom. The slightly warmer MIB maybe a touch better than the OG in this setup. However, the reason is that SR1a (my fav phones by a mile) are slightly bright. 

These are the other DACs I have owned in the past (cannot remember all of them).

- Lumin X1

- Musetec 005

- Benchmark DAC3B

- Audio Mirror Tubadour III 

- Topping D90

- Matrix Audio Mini Pro-3

I am in the queue for the Byggi, cost is $1500 from my Yggi+ MIB DAC.

I have the very last Yggi+ OG ever made. Interestingly, I bought it after speaking with a guy at the SchittR (via phone) and he said it is not even close as to which was his fav Yggi+.  He was a musician and so that carried a lot of weight with me.

The Yggi+ OG is incredible, and I am never parting with it. It has a super clean, non-fatiguing sound that is fast with explosive bass. What a DAC, my music sounds the best I have ever heard through this DAC. It needs some heavy burn-in to get to the current level (30+ days).

Another friend (a musician) compared this DAC with the Mola Mola Tambaqui and liked the Tambaqui a tiny bit more, but then surprising said that in a blind test he likely could not tell. They used the RAAL 1995 Immanis headphones for this comparison (maybe the best phones in the world).

Colorado Head-Fi meet impressions (December 7, 2024) | Headphone Reviews and Discussion - Head-Fi.org (another comparison with Chord DAVE)

Another Head-Fi’er, @yyzSB, sent his Schiit Audio Yggdrasil+ OG DAC with Danny, and I got a chance to listen to it not only driving my Immanis through my Zahl HM1 and VM-1a, but also through Danny’s Feliks Audio Envy. It has great tonal density—more than my Dave. And it does bass drum better than I think I’ve ever heard. Not only with the impact of the drum strikes, but the hollow reverb (I mean hollow in a good way here) of the sound of that strike bouncing around inside the drum. Timbre across the rest of the FR, and technicalities, were a touch behind my Dave, with the Yggi+ sounding a hair more digital. But the Yggi+ is also much less expensive and offers insane SQ per $.

I got the Yggi+ Less Is More DAC as my gateway drug into the Schitt DACs. I liked it with my bright (at the time) headphone and office 2-channel setup. However, that DAC is too rolled off on top. My musician buddy hated it and could not understand the hype. The musician guy at the SchittR also told me he hated it. 

I converted the LIM DAC to the Yggi+ More Is Better. This was an improvement for my ears because the rolled off nature was gone but it had a bit of the artificial warmth that the LIM also has. The MIB is closer to the OG but does not have the clean sound of the OG.

I am getting the MIB converted to the Byggi. This odyssey will cost me $5k after all the conversions and purchase price. If the Byggi is like the OG or better, then I can see myself getting 2 of them. I have 3 setups.